Cannabis and you - Sleeping

[Munkeyboi]

Think i might start a few of these threads actually just to gague peoples view points and the effect they feel cannabis has on different relations of their being and brain.

So first of the bat, sleeping.

How does cannabis effect you and your sleep?

Does it affect it?

Do you need it to sleep? or does it keep you awake?

Do you remember you dreams compared to not smoking?

is it restful sleep or do you wake feeling very tired?

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Personally i have trouble sleeping sober or stoned.

I find small noisies irritate and keep me awake.

I sleep much easier having had a spliff before bed. Stops a lot of thinking and negative thoughts that are usually about before bed. And if i have no smoke before bed, i do get very stressed, tetchy and depressed.

That being said i dont feel the sleep is as restful as it ccould be, i rarely remember dreams. And i do wake feeling tired

But when away on holidays, more recenlty this summer, i found that first day or two with no smoke it was difficult for me to sleep. But then that went later, and felt sleep was restful and i did remember dreams.

On the whole i think a good night time aid, but not without its downsides.

[Naxx]

Nothing like a Bed time smoke, puts me off nicely

i usually have trouble sleeping

[Budclart]

Good thread Munkeyboi!!


I generally don't sleep as well and feel tired when I wake up.


Man years ago when I was a sixth former smoking Soapbar bongs for breakfast lunch and dinner I found it hard to sleep without it but...



now I don't smoke it very often I find that I can't get to sleep after having a smoke unless I've smoked some seriously strong stuff and I'm near whitey stage of being stoned.


Used to find it hard to sleep without it but now find it hard to sleep whilst smoking it.



I smoke about 1 spliff a month tho to give you some indication of my usage. Moderate to say the least aye :)

[Eggbox]

I find it very hard to sleep without my bedtime bong and some music. Due to having ME/CFS, my sleeping pattern used to be all over the place and led to some pretty heavy insomnia.. But if I've got a smoke and some tunes, or something to watch then I'll drop off no bother :smokie:

Same with waking up too. Gotta have a bong in the morning to get me going - otherwise I can't eat for ages and get all drowsy.. A side effect of the ME is pretty bad arthritis which can really stop me from functioning sometimes, but if I've got at least a bong in the morning then I'm generally allright until the afternoon.. But we all like to binge now and then :stoned-smilie:

[Budclart]

Same with waking up too. Gotta have a bong in the morning to get me going - otherwise I can't eat for ages and get all drowsy..





but if I've got at least a bong in the morning then I'm generally allright until the afternoon.. But we all like to binge now and then :stoned-smilie:



This made me laugh The bong in the morning to wake up etc and not your health issues


erm If I had a bong in the morning I'd be fcuked for the rest of the day, out of practice I think, what you're used to I guess isn't it.

[Eggbox]

Haha, dunno what it is mate - I just function better if it's the first thing I do when I wake up :stoned-smilie:

[GrassHopper]

OMG I'd do nothing for the rest of the day if I had a bong 1st thing lol.

[bigbudben]

i personally cant sleep with out a bedtime jont if i have a i can nod of easy and sleep all night with strong dreams most nights if i dont have a smoke i toss and turn all night in and out of bed to toilet i dont think ive gone a single night without a smoke for past year but if i wake i am in chill out mode for the rest of the day so the only day i ever do this is sunday wich is my wake and bake day

[DoobyDuck]

I have very very vivid dreams when av no weed* but can sleep like a log when am smoking. I smoke right up to when I go to bed at night, usually midnight or therabouts so still getting bout seven hours and I do wake up feeling tired and robbed at having to get up but a cuppa soon sorts me out with cereal and a j for brekkie :stoned-smilie:

I can be quite a selfish sleeper in the morning, so much so that I asked the gf for another half an hour before going to the hospital when her waters broke :blush:, needless to say we were in the hospital within that half an hour :laugh:

The gf's dad has a lot of bother sleeping and a wee space cake gives him the good nights sleep he needs and swears by them.

* like dreamin I was being chased by a shark and waking up like an olympic swimmer going for gold in my bed :confused: :leaf:

[Chilled]

I used to smoke every night (though sometimes in the day) and found I was very dependant of a joint to sleep well.

While I had maybe 8-10 nights off in a year they were a mission and did manage to stay up without sleep really at all once when I had a 10 hours shift at a bar job at the time (the stress of no weed and knowing I was working screwed me over!!).

I had one night where I got high, slept and woke at 3.30 and all I could think about was a joint to get back to sleep which was a bit of a wake up call (nice pun) that I was smoking a bit much.

These days I never smoke in the week due to having a 'real' job but always smoke one weekend night (often both) and dont get the sleep thing that much which Im really chuffed about as for about 3 years have had really bad sleep problems.

TBH I was a fairly good sleep before smoking everyday so dont think it really helped that much, but then again out of every feeling from other drugs being stoned is my favourite!!!

[Yir wee bud]

i smoke from i get up till i go 2 bed everyday,sleep like a log dont remember if iv had a dream or not and im always woken with the wife shouting on me 2 get up or jumping back in with me to wake me up.life is a dream.i used 2 work 24/7 but im geting used 2 this being ill real fast you know..

[ddsdavey]

I find it very hard to sleep without my bedtime bong

Yep,im a joint man meself but i cant be without my weed,its an everyday thing and has been for years,cant eat,sleep properly without,sad though it maybe!

[popefull27]

I always found that smoking before bed made me sleep a lot deeper but once i wake up i still feel really tired and sluggish

[Bobby Digital]

I sleep much better after a doob i cant remember my dreams that much tho but the ones i do remember rock.
peace

[ddsdavey]

I never dream though unless its a rare (and DREADED!) day when im without,then i seem to dream.I thought the deeper the sleep the more you dream? Perhaps Cannabis induces a shallow sleep hence the lack of dreams and general lathergy the morning after???

[bubbs]

Haha, dunno what it is mate - I just function better if it's the first thing I do when I wake up :stoned-smilie:

lol BB wakes up and has a bong too, even if its like 5am in the morning i cant handle it when i get up i need an hour hehe,

[ddsdavey]

If theres weed in the house im in trouble whatever the time.I think weeds alot more morish than booze but im t'total so im gonna be bias but it is,its the perfect product to promote,ive always thought that.It smells lush,it looks so beautiful (and enticing),it smells different again when burnt but fantastic none-the-less,it tastes nice (if flushed etc) and of course has a buzz thats morish beyond words,its an advertisers dream product imo,straight up.If im forced to be stringent then i can be.
Fortunately today im doing a few consoles and a repair on a Wii which was for cash but he mentioned his crops ready so i did him a good price and in return i get half ounce of some real nice,DRY CURED and a bit of cash,in this scenario i cant leave the stuff alone and im sure my body wakes me up more often because it knows theres plenty of excess goody to be smoked!
Im doing well lately,got an half last Tuesday for 60 thats got 2g then gone and ill get this for approx 55.
I aint braggin lads seriously,ive been buying 2 or 3 10s a day sometimes of 1.4-1.7s MAX so its about bloody time i got a bit of luck!
Sorry for being off topic!

[Brio]

Posted the same on the other thread in here on the effects of cannabis.

I seem to have violent dreams when I'm not smoking, and apparently I lash out as well, so it's not good for the missus lying next to me.

Only good thing to come out of it all is, it's a bit dry where I am just now, so the wife has given me the ok to grow my own, so she doesn't get kicked in the shins when I'm short on smoke :D

[BURNZ]

I can sleep if I smoke or not, but I tend to go into a deeper sleep if I have a few hits from my pipe. It has to be indica dominant, cause sativas usually tend to keep me up. As far as dreams I remember them more often when I don't smoke. When I do smoke don't remember a thing, and I usually wake up fine :dance2:

[ddsdavey]

...it's a bit dry where I am just now
Really? Where i am theres loads and i mean there must be LOADS cause im getting weight as cheap if not cheaper than 5 years ago and its all proper skunk etc,ok some might not be conoisseur primo but bloody nice weed still that ticks all them boxes.I am getting some pretty special for Xmas week,only a half cause its 80 quid just for that but its bone dry Blueberry and i adore that stuff,nowt tastes like it imo,might get a cheeky q of Widow if its still about then as the Blues is initially a potent smoke but your tollerance soon adapts.
I dont feel its that much considering i dont drink and this will be my only "spirit" this Xmas so ill be damned if im gonna smoke shit.Dont get me wrong,i dont live in Disney World! It took me a good few days and several phone calls to source it but im sure it will amount to plesent nights of sleeping (note the crafty weave on,off then back on topic lol!).

[Brio]

Really? Where i am theres loads and i mean there must be LOADS cause im getting weight as cheap if not cheaper than 5 years ago and its all proper skunk etc,ok some might not be conoisseur primo but bloody nice weed still that ticks all them boxes.I am getting some pretty special for Xmas week,only a half cause its 80 quid just for that but its bone dry Blueberry and i adore that stuff,nowt tastes like it imo,might get a cheeky q of Widow if its still about then as the Blues is initially a potent smoke but your tollerance soon adapts.
I dont feel its that much considering i dont drink and this will be my only "spirit" this Xmas so ill be damned if im gonna smoke shit.Dont get me wrong,i dont live in Disney World! It took me a good few days and several phone calls to source it but im sure it will amount to plesent nights of sleeping (note the crafty weave on,off then back on topic lol!).

When I had kids, I moved to a new area, and generally kept myself to myself, so when my one and only source is struggling, then generally I'm fucked.

Not usually a big deal, but a fortnight ago my man went for a wee holiday, so I'm up shit creek.

Inconveniant but not disasterous (yet).

[Auld Yin]

Aye, has tae be wake an bake rite throo tae bed-time. bi smokin for over 30 yrs noo an ah really fukin struggle tae sleep wioot a puff - although diazaam or oxycontin usually works !!

Auld Yin

[The_Hunter]

Really? Where i am theres loads and i mean there must be LOADS cause im getting weight as cheap if not cheaper than 5 years ago and its all proper skunk etc,ok some might not be conoisseur primo but bloody nice weed still that ticks all them boxes.I am getting some pretty special for Xmas week,only a half cause its 80 quid just for that but its bone dry Blueberry and i adore that stuff,nowt tastes like it imo,might get a cheeky q of Widow if its still about then as the Blues is initially a potent smoke but your tollerance soon adapts.
I dont feel its that much considering i dont drink and this will be my only "spirit" this Xmas so ill be damned if im gonna smoke shit.Dont get me wrong,i dont live in Disney World! It took me a good few days and several phone calls to source it but im sure it will amount to plesent nights of sleeping (note the crafty weave on,off then back on topic lol!).

i have to agree with DDSdavey our area is pretty "lush" most the time

[johnyboi121]

Personally i have trouble sleeping sober or stoned.

I find small noisies irritate and keep me awake.

I sleep much easier having had a spliff before bed. Stops a lot of thinking and negative thoughts that are usually about before bed. And if i have no smoke before bed, i do get very stressed, tetchy and depressed.

That being said i dont feel the sleep is as restful as it ccould be, i rarely remember dreams. And i do wake feeling tired

But when away on holidays, more recenlty this summer, i found that first day or two with no smoke it was difficult for me to sleep. But then that went later, and felt sleep was restful and i did remember dreams.

On the whole i think a good night time aid, but not without its downsides.
your exactly the same as me with the stressieness without a joint before bed and everything else you just said

[born2toke]

ive got to wake n bake and i wont fall asleep unless my eyes have gone throught smoking enough can take up to 4 hours to fall asleep normall 5 seconds stonned in the morn well aternoon i wake up wanting more sleep but after the first coffee and j im awake and ready for the next

[Father jack]

yup when i have a smoke at night before bed i sleep like a brick :D i used to have to take temazepam but not now :D

[Far Side]

Posted the same on the other thread in here on the effects of cannabis.

I seem to have violent dreams when I'm not smoking, and apparently I lash out as well, so it's not good for the missus lying next to me.

Only good thing to come out of it all is, it's a bit dry where I am just now, so the wife has given me the ok to grow my own, so she doesn't get kicked in the shins when I'm short on smoke :D

Ha Ha, she knows it makes sense.


Me personally, ... restless legs! without weed my legs feel all achey but very active, ive never got to sleep easily from when i was a baby, but since i discovered weed, never have a problem nodding off.

Oh yea you gotta have a wake n bake first thing to put you in a chilled mood for the morning... or i'm a grumpy mofo.

[mashedupmark]

your exactly the same as me with the stressieness without a joint before bed and everything else you just said


guys dont take this the wrong way but you both have this problem because your blocking out the stuff thats stressing you. . . . . . . . .

trust me i know as i suffer from stress too

sure weed is a fantastic tool for chilling, but try to devote some of that chilled out stress free time stoned thinking about how to solve the actuall things that are causing your stress

hope you get what i'm saying

:bigjoint:

[drumbum]

I work in the oil industry and Im forced to stop smoking for 2 weeks out of 5 and I always have to go through 3 nights of very disturbed sleep everytime I go away and I always get a sweaty back too, after 3 nights my sleeping patterns return to normal apart from waking up a bit early.

When I get home for the first week I sleep like a log and always look forward to a midnight toke and then bed, I end up sleeping until midday most days and I really need to use an alarm just to keep some sort of routine or Ill just end up sleeping my precious time at home away and before I know it Im working again.

[Father jack]

Funy this thread is here i just got a letter to go back to the sleep clinic the results are in and they maybe found something or they`l blame it on weed,it was funny my mrs told the doc ina stern way that when i had a smoke i slept like a baby and didnt move whare as when i didnt i`d often wake up gasping like i was having a fit or i`d kick and punch her lol

[TheGreenMachine]

Some interesting posts. A very interesting thread indeed.
I have to have a smoke before bed.
Well I smoke just about all day at the moment as I don't have to drive anywhere cos the cars broke.
The last J I have before bed has to be rammed.
I do enjoy a good nights sleep after that. If left unchecked, I can sleep the day away litterally.

@drumbum
That sweaty clammy back thing.. I get that too.
If I've been binging out on MJ then cut myself back, I find it hard to regulate my body temp, especially in winter.
At night, Im under the cover, nice and warm to the point of baking, sweating like a piggy, but then when I come out from the covers, Im all cold and clammy.
I spend a day or two like that when I'm cutting back.
In the day is bad too.. Hot and cold flushes like the flippin menopause lol

[x-quork]

I've slept like a log after recent evenings on the vape, and the best thing is, I feel fantastic the following morning. A very nice change from the effects of booze.

[johnyboi121]

I've slept like a log after recent evenings on the vape, and the best thing is, I feel fantastic the following morning. A very nice change from the effects of booze.
i dont drink atall instead i smoke like a bitch i didont even drink new years !!!

[stoned420]

i have to have at least 3 big arsed bongs b4 bed with out my fair lady i would be awake 4 days :thcleaf:

[dekay]

Apart from a 3 month spell after me bust i have had a smoke before bed for over 20 years now, dont need it but it makes drifting off far more interesting.:bigjoint:

[allmix]

it helps me to drift off to sleep and also with my axiety and high blood pressure,but ive now got asthma and im devastated,ive now jibbed the doobies and im looking into vaporizers, hoping this will substitute.

[dekay]

Vaps will easily substitute thc hit but not nicotine hit, and thats the only reason i never totally switched.

[bertie]

I am indeed, well and truley a pot head. I can smoke a 1/4oz a day IF I could, even during the week when I work everyday, On an average day I will smoke an 8th. If I got an ounce, its gone in 3 days I get extreamly greedy when I have big bits.

I get all the symptoms in the first post! No weed = no sleep.

1 bedtime joint aint enough to send me off either, I need atleast 2 - 3 spliffs within the last hour before bed (BIG spliffs too, 2g's in a joint easly). And I cannot sleep even after smoking my last spliff before bed, because I get depressed now I know I have none left for the morning.

I NEED a joint to wake up, on the rare occasion when I have none, it will take 5-6hrs after getting out of bed, and many many cups of tea to even wake up fully. My brain cannot run at full throttle at anytime. Unless ive been without weed for 3days or so, which is very rare for me!

And I have been doing this the past 5 years, smoking weed is my life right now and im dependent on it. I had NONE of these problems before I became a pot head.

Although I KNOW I CAN go without, have done before and right now I have no smoke, so no sleep tonite but normally after a few days without I can start to sleep well again and infact the sleep is better than when I have alot of weed.

I REALLY should give up smoking for a while. But right now? In this stressful world?? NO BLOODY WAY!!

I will always be looking forward to my next spliff.

[johnyboi121]

I am indeed, well and truley a pot head. I can smoke a 1/4oz a day IF I could, even during the week when I work everyday, On an average day I will smoke an 8th. If I got an ounce, its gone in 3 days I get extreamly greedy when I have big bits.

I get all the symptoms in the first post! No weed = no sleep.

1 bedtime joint aint enough to send me off either, I need atleast 2 - 3 spliffs within the last hour before bed (BIG spliffs too, 2g's in a joint easly). And I cannot sleep even after smoking my last spliff before bed, because I get depressed now I know I have none left for the morning.

I NEED a joint to wake up, on the rare occasion when I have none, it will take 5-6hrs after getting out of bed, and many many cups of tea to even wake up fully. My brain cannot run at full throttle at anytime. Unless ive been without weed for 3days or so, which is very rare for me!

And I have been doing this the past 5 years, smoking weed is my life right now and im dependent on it. I had NONE of these problems before I became a pot head.

Although I KNOW I CAN go without, have done before and right now I have no smoke, so no sleep tonite but normally after a few days without I can start to sleep well again and infact the sleep is better than when I have alot of weed.

I REALLY should give up smoking for a while. But right now? In this stressful world?? NO BLOODY WAY!!

I will always be looking forward to my next spliff.

adict !!!!! only joking i would be the same if i had enough money

[trbngr]

i've got very bad insomnia and weed is the only thing that helps me sleep

[bertie]

^^^ Yeah mate it can cause insomnia too. I get it a little if I hammer the weed for too long. A short break fix's my sleeping pattern.

Heck sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night for a spliff, my body just wakes me up and I cannot get back to sleep without a joint!

[oldboy]

Only thing that gets me a good night sleep is a zipoclone or a joint. Diagnosed with chronic insomnia, and they only let me on zipo's for a 30 day term every few months. So a joint it is.

[The Lost Soul]

Recently, when I have it, I don't want it.
Then, when I don't have any,I cant sleep.
Then, when I get some and smoke it to get some sleep,I can't
fuckin sleep!!
What a vicious circle this is.....
A break beckons me'thinks......
Had a lot on ma plate recently though, so could be a contributing factor.

[Placcy]

Well tonight has been a nightmare, 'it'll be an hour' is what i've heard since 5pm.

So i resigned myself to the fact i was going to go without tonight, which really didn't bother me, infact i saw it as a challenge. The only thing is i have really vivid dreams when i've not had a smoke they borderline on scary.

Then 5 mins ago he comes through, now the dilemma is 'to smoke or not to smoke'

I really wanted to see if i could do it, but now evil temptation is sat in my pocket.




Who am i kidding.............wheres them king size :D

[a13x]

i have had severe insomnia since i was about 13 and i rarely have a dream (maybe once a fortnight) i lie in bed most nights staring up unable to sleep for a few hours.
when i eventually get to sleep its a really deep sleep no dreams and hard to wake up.
i used to take pills for it but my tolerance got too high for them i ended up having to take 5+ pills to get me off so i stopped.
most nights i dont sleep coz i dont have enough money to smoke every night - thats why im growing.
when i do have weed it is a bliss to be able to get to sleep and wake up in the morning, if i had weed every night i could do so much more with my life

[Weed_Seeds]

Have the most buggerd sleeping pattern . . . . have done since i was about 14.

Used to get severe insomnia every now and again *touches wood* not had it in a good while.

I can sleep IF im that tired without taking a smoke but otherwise im there for hours trying to sleep and when i do evenutally get to sleep, due to the time it is i end up sleeping most of the day away.

If ive had a healthy smoke before bed i get a weapon of a sleep but wake up with my stomach acids doin bloody loops.....like right now

[ramrez101]

I can't sleep without weed now, it's pretty shitty.

[AlphaChronic]

I will find it imppossable to sleep if i dont have a bed time reefer... Sleep like a log after a nice crystal 1 skin on a hard days grinding!!

[Funbox420]

When i first started smokin i found it hard to sleep because i would get really stoned.I would say i smoked about a half ounce with one of my buddies and then i just didn't feel tired.I felt alert and very focused on very little things.Im really glad to say i dont smoke that much nowadays.I might smoke 4 5 js in one day.I find my self not so stoned but yes smokin before sleep really helps me.I dont remember my dreams, but i never did in the first place.

[Weed_Seeds]

Must say ive just had the most horrible nights sleep ever, so horrible i feel just as tired now as i did when i went to sleep.

I basically dreamnt about all the worst possible stuff i could, all the weirdest stuff aswell.

woke up in a state, sweating like fuck atleast 2-3 times during the night.

Have no cannabis of any kind and no grow or money to get some more.

[supra]

i had real problems with sleeping at one point an it was the point i had no weed.i smoke weed everyday so i think it to do with this.god help me the day i cant get any or grow any .few stellas i think but i really dont get much from drinking ....makes me wanna do stupid stuff .fight etc.and that far from my personality

[mystic79]

Well tonight has been a nightmare, 'it'll be an hour' is what i've heard since 5pm.

So i resigned myself to the fact i was going to go without tonight, which really didn't bother me, infact i saw it as a challenge. The only thing is i have really vivid dreams when i've not had a smoke they borderline on scary.

Then 5 mins ago he comes through, now the dilemma is 'to smoke or not to smoke'

I really wanted to see if i could do it, but now evil temptation is sat in my pocket.




Who am i kidding.............wheres them king size :D

lol lol lol lol lol lol:rvmp:

[jameswolb]

Been smoking for years now. A night without green is a horrible thought indeed. I have to use sleeping drugs or i will be awake till 5am with tons of repetitive, random thoughts going through my head. Weed seems to have also gripped my eating habits.

Although tbh, before green it was alcohol, i remember regularly drinking a bottle of red to get to sleep, but i don't drink at all anymore. These people that go to sleep without alcohol/drugs/anything amaze me, it's inconceivable to sleep without some kind of drug :P

<3 the first smoke of the day.. I get home from work, my head is all confused, stressed. I roll the most ultimately stacked smoke. By the time am finished smoking, my head is completely clear, calm, it's almost like a new day, beautiful :)

[Renagade4-20]

Been smoking for years now. A night without green is a horrible thought indeed. I have to use sleeping drugs or i will be awake till 5am with tons of repetitive, random thoughts going through my head. Weed seems to have also gripped my eating habits.

Although tbh, before green it was alcohol, i remember regularly drinking a bottle of red to get to sleep, but i don't drink at all anymore. These people that go to sleep without alcohol/drugs/anything amaze me, it's inconceivable to sleep without some kind of drug :P

<3 the first smoke of the day.. I get home from work, my head is all confused, stressed. I roll the most ultimately stacked smoke. By the time am finished smoking, my head is completely clear, calm, it's almost like a new day, beautiful :)

AGREED CHUM

[a13x]

Been smoking for years now. A night without green is a horrible thought indeed. I have to use sleeping drugs or i will be awake till 5am with tons of repetitive, random thoughts going through my head. Weed seems to have also gripped my eating habits.

Although tbh, before green it was alcohol, i remember regularly drinking a bottle of red to get to sleep, but i don't drink at all anymore. These people that go to sleep without alcohol/drugs/anything amaze me, it's inconceivable to sleep without some kind of drug :P

<3 the first smoke of the day.. I get home from work, my head is all confused, stressed. I roll the most ultimately stacked smoke. By the time am finished smoking, my head is completely clear, calm, it's almost like a new day, beautiful :)
yeh the same thoughts going round :@ i think thats to do with worries and anxiety that i have, i dont know about u but i think mines caused by rather unhappy childhood events