Autoflowering crossbreed!?

[CashCorp]

What would happen if i crossed a lowryder 2 or a 60-day wonder with a ata tundra or white widow? Or any autoflowering strain with a non-auto. Would it preserve the auto characteristics or would it "turn normal"?

I have great experiences with the ata tundra (45 day flowering period) my aim is a super-fast strain combined with decent yields wich i don't think i got from my last lowryder 2 grow.... even though it was a hydro grow.... Satisfactory but not more than that... Any thoughts?

[wert]

depends on wether the auto you are crossing with is homozygous with the auto gene.regardless they will not all be autos.

[Plutopete]

I crossed a non auto Kush with one of the lowriders and got a wide variety of offspring. A lot of the seeds, 70%, didn't inherit the auto trait or if they did they hadn't started flowering after a month of growth. The other 30% did inherit the auto trait and these plants were bred from, the ratio of autos to non autos kept improving and by the 6th generation i had pure auto seeds. Definitely worth doing and you could get a dynamite crossbreed.

[wert]

i have never worked with autos but from your figures i would presume the auto gene is recessive[approx 25% carry over to the next generation] and 6 back crosses to stabilise is good ,well done.

[mitch_connor]

The 'usual' way it works to make a Non Auto strain AF is by doing the following.

Cross AF to Non AF for F1's
Grow out the F1's and incross them to make F2's - none of the F1's will show the AF trait
@ F2 you will see 25% exhibiting the AF trait, cross the best male and female that AF
@ F3 you will have a much higher rate that Autoflower, again inbreed the best that AF
@ F4 the Auto trait should be pretty much locked down, inbreed this generation again and you should be at 100% AF

That will give you a hybrid that Autoflowers with 50% of the genes from the non AF, now you could backcross to the original NON AF parent and repeat the above process for a strain which contains 75% of your NON AF parent.

The original process can take less time if you use a NON AF parent that is known to have some AF/semi-autoflowering tendencies.. like AK47 for example

[wert]

you can maybe do it in 4 by backcrossing to the original ruderalis or stable auto flower but working with cross strains it will be more difficult as you will not know if the second/third cross is with a plant that is homozygous.

[mitch_connor]

Yes, backcrossing to the AF will get you there quicker.. but if you're putting in the time to make something new and improved.. it seems a waste to me. As you would only have 25% of your (better quality) non-AF in there.

[wert]

that is why it may take 7 or 8 crosses to stabilise not using true breeding or stable stock.