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fingers
03-05-12, 10:26 AM
There about 2 weeks from seed, gonna get the screen up on the weekend,

Serious seeds AK47
Vegging under a 400W MH
Feeding on hessi coco grow, hesi super vit, hessi root, in 10L air pots

The screens going in on Saturday

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Alzy
03-05-12, 11:09 AM
Good luck fingers,

Glad to see another scrog started.
Pulling up my bean bag if you don't mind.

fingers
03-05-12, 11:37 AM
Cheers, I've got another tray for the bottom, I'll space the pots out when the screen goes in

fingers
05-05-12, 08:28 PM
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Screens gone in, it's lower than where I want it but as the plants grow I'll move the light & fan up & give myself more room under the screen

Trigger
05-05-12, 08:40 PM
good luck , they are going to be monsters if you just germinated them 2 weeks ago

fingers
05-05-12, 08:56 PM
I hope they continue at the rate of growth. It shouldn't take to long to fill the screen up enough to flip em

fingers
06-05-12, 09:25 AM
I had a look at some dates & there more like 3 weeks from the last 1 sprouting. Lol, lost a week somewhere?!!

Trigger
06-05-12, 10:32 AM
i thought they were a bit big for 2 weeks lol, still they look fine for 3 weeks and nice and healthy

fingers
07-05-12, 06:59 PM
I've got PK13/14 & will use a bit of molasses in the last 2 weeks, have any of you ever used Dutch pro explode or anything like it?

mobymikespain
07-05-12, 11:01 PM
Lovely lookin plants m8 good luck

fingers
09-05-12, 09:36 PM
They're starting to stink!!

DST
11-05-12, 12:00 PM
Good luck with the scrog m8.

fingers
11-05-12, 12:34 PM
Cheers, 1 was touching the screen last night, 2 are still a bit smaller than the other 2

Alzy
11-05-12, 12:41 PM
So now starts the training.
You should try and plan where you are going to train as it's easier than winging it and possibly screwing it up.
How much are you gonna fill the screen too?
I filled mine up completely by flipping to 12/12 to late.grr
What Ph and EC you feeding them?
Any pics as well????? It's been a week??? Hehe

fingers
11-05-12, 01:05 PM
I'll take some pics tonight mate, PH 5.8 & ill work it up to 6.1 as they start to flower,I don't test the ec as I'm using hesi nutes & I read you can't get a correct reading with hesi? There on 75% recommended strength now, do you ever need to go full 100% recommended? I was thinking of putting the pots further in the corners & working the main stem towards the middle while sort of trying to fill the net to 60% full with the rest, I know people advise to fill to 80% but it's my first scrog I'd rather under compensate a touch than run out of room

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DST
11-05-12, 01:32 PM
I'll take some pics tonight mate, PH 5.8 & ill work it up to 6.1 as they start to flower,I don't test the ec as I'm using hesi nutes & I read you can't get a correct reading with hesi? There on 75% recommended strength now, do you ever need to go full 100% recommended? I was thinking of putting the pots further in the corners & working the main stem towards the middle while sort of trying to fill the net to 60% full with the rest, I know people advise to fill to 80% but it's my first scrog I'd rather under compensate a touch than run out of room

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Personally I would always check the EC, get yourself a meter they are pretty cheap. I would never trust manufactures guide lines.

joey
11-05-12, 01:44 PM
first AK47 grow diary iv seen on here , was looking for 1 a while ago but coulkdnt find 1. heard nothing but good things about this strain.

good luck with the grow. hope you dont mind me poping in from time to time mate see how they are doing.

all the best

j:)

fingers
11-05-12, 01:44 PM
Personally I would always check the EC, get yourself a meter they are pretty cheap. I would never trust manufactures guide lines.


Ok mate, I'm thinking of trying a different brand of nutes next time so I will need 1 any way

fingers
11-05-12, 01:45 PM
first AK47 grow diary iv seen on here , was looking for 1 a while ago but coulkdnt find 1. heard nothing but good things about this strain.

good luck with the grow. hope you dont mind me poping in from time to time mate see how they are doing.

all the best

j:)

Cheers Joey :party:

fingers
11-05-12, 08:18 PM
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adambomb
11-05-12, 10:14 PM
Good one man,i'm going to watch your grow unfold, glad i spotted it,keep the vision of what you want in your minds eye and it shall be so,good luck with it mate.

fingers
11-05-12, 10:31 PM
Cheers dude, the growstar reflector should give maximum spread to this if I can get the scrog right

adambomb
11-05-12, 10:36 PM
Go team Growstar! I use one aswell mate ,nice bit of kit purrrrticularly magical for this type of grow;).

Forest
11-05-12, 10:48 PM
Go team grostar! Got two now , pure gold!


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fingers
11-05-12, 10:53 PM
There great but the last 2 grows with it my plants have got to big, I tried a bit of LST but gave up after snapping branches, I hope doing it this way will keep it all level(ish), I can't wait to fill the screen & flip the bithches

fingers
13-05-12, 09:25 PM
All but 1 are touching the screen now, I've started training the biggest 1, does this look about right so far?

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fingers
14-05-12, 10:46 AM
& I've put a 600W MH on them

joey
14-05-12, 11:02 AM
not done a scrog before bud , so carnt say if your doing any thing right or wrong. but from what i read there really is no such bulb as a true blue 600w MH . it has red in it. i used 1 in my last grow and few tech guy's says they only go up to 400w then the spectrum changes. so best off using a HPS duel spec. which i did with great results.

any ways look's like the fun is just starting for you . hope it goes well for ya bud. scrog is the way forward and will be doing it myself on my next grow.

fingers
14-05-12, 02:00 PM
What wankers the bulb makers are!! It's a massive bulb, I have some 600W dual spec bulbs but last grow I used the (so called!) 600W MH till the stretch stopped

joey
14-05-12, 04:54 PM
What wankers the bulb makers are!! It's a massive bulb, I have some 600W dual spec bulbs but last grow I used the (so called!) 600W MH till the stretch stopped


lol sorry didnt mean to make you think that your 600w MH is no good as it is. just letting you know it aint a true all blue spec bulb ;) it will still do the job just fine mate. sorry if i made it out it was not doing what it is meant to be doing as it still will be. :) just saying for a true blue spectrum dont gom above the 400 MH ;)


all the best

j

fingers
14-05-12, 08:37 PM
I'll leave it on at the moment, I was going to use it in the last 2 weeks too

fingers
16-05-12, 08:17 PM
I've started removing some of the leaf underneath, how this looking to you lot? It feels like I'm doing it wrong??? I'm just positioning the branches where I want them, the plants are bending quite well under the screen, 1 still isn't big enough to position, is it worth removing any of the lowest branches?

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wah wah
16-05-12, 08:22 PM
Looks fine mate...just keep spreading the branches out and removing the leaves..a handfull or two at a time...you could stick

something under the one that is reaching the screen yet to level it up a bit.

MrMtfMan
16-05-12, 08:24 PM
i have been on here reading alot and i have always wondered what "scrog" meant so i am very excited to see that u have started a diary on this method but i would like to ask a question hopefully its not to dumb! so is your plant guna start to grow up into that net? and if so, then what? like i sais this is all vey interesting to me so i will def follow along i currently have a diary going myself so i may even try this technique on one of my lil lovelies:)

fingers
16-05-12, 08:27 PM
Cheers, no matter how much reading I've done on it, it feels like I'm doing it wrong lol

fingers
16-05-12, 08:32 PM
The main stems are bending well but keep growing out of the screen & get bent back under, I'm trying to work the main stems in to the middle & place the branches in the squares of the screen where I want them to be, it's easy on paper lol

wah wah
16-05-12, 08:33 PM
Im only on my third scrog...and i know what you mean about "feels wrong"...i guarantee your next one will be soooo much easier

stick with it dood..it,s far and away the best for getting max yield.

fingers
17-05-12, 10:53 AM
Panic over lol! Thanks for putting my mind at ease mate, I've just been in & the biggest one has really taken to the scrog overnight & I can now see exactly what I'm doing, I've repositioned the beaches again this morning, I'd guess another couple of weeks & it'll be full enough to flip

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fingers
17-05-12, 11:00 AM
& next scrog I think I'll be topping or fim them, the main stem is pushing up quite hard on the net & can see how topping or fimming them would benefit, I've brought the next seeds already for the next grow, I took advantage of attitudes offer for 25% off for the 1st 100 people to use the discount code dank & got 5 G13 labs OG kush for £22 with 1 OG kush free & 3 blueberry bubble gum free so that's my next few grows sorted!

fingers
17-05-12, 11:17 AM
Attitudes offer of the 1st 1000 people sorry, not 100

fingers
18-05-12, 07:50 PM
I've been removing the fan leaf a bit, trying not to over do it all in 1 go

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fingers
23-05-12, 10:36 AM
I've put the HPS on em & it's doing good, still on 18/6 for a few more weeks

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fingers
26-05-12, 07:19 PM
I've had some news that some family are coming to stay in late August so I may have to flip em early,

What's everyone's views on this?

GBK
26-05-12, 07:30 PM
You could still see the plant grow 2-3 times the size they are now, As they smell pretty good now, I suspect they will stink when when full on, My tiny AK47 at 53 days since germination stinks, and only 2 weeks into flower,They love the LST and screens.Looking really well mate, Id flip if you want them out the way, Either way I cant see you being disappointed with the out come,GBK

fingers
28-05-12, 07:55 PM
1 plant hasn't really gone as well as the other 3 & the leafs look a bit yellow on the edges & today starting to curl, I gave them a some Epsom salts yesterday, the other 3 look banging 112059112060112061

fingers
04-06-12, 09:50 AM
Flipped em 10 days now, 3/4 of the screen has filled out, just the 1 plant hasn't hardly grown still, it's looking a bit better than it was but it's still quite yellow, I gave it water for a few days & started the nutes at a very low level & working them up, do I leave them now & stop pulling them back under the net? I'll post pics later

fingers
04-06-12, 09:23 PM
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11-06-12, 07:32 PM
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fingers
11-06-12, 07:33 PM
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fingers
11-06-12, 07:34 PM
They absolutely stink. I can't wait till their in full bloom

fingers
22-06-12, 10:13 PM
All plants are now flowering, 4 weeks tomorrow, I'm starting to get one plant with yellowing leaves, there on 40ml hessi bloom & 5ml pk 13/14 in 10L of water, is this normal to start yellowing midway through flower?

fingers
22-06-12, 10:28 PM
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Pic of leaves, there's a few like this & only on 1 plant

fingers
25-06-12, 07:16 PM
Not sure if anyone's reading this still, I'm having problems still, just mixed up all the nutes & tested it with the ec pen & all mixed up its 1520, should it be nearer 1600?

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fingers
04-08-12, 11:40 PM
All chopped down & hanging in the tent, I had to chop 1 down last sunday, that's dried & has given me 2.5 oz, the other 3 are easily double the size buds & were cut down today...

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taylor
05-08-12, 07:19 AM
Some tasty looking buds there, ak is such a nice smoke I'm tempted to do that next. Wicked reflection of the plants in the growstar mate, looks like a sea of bud sites in post 48 :headbang:

fingers
05-08-12, 11:02 AM
Cheers mate, i don't think i'm gonna be doing a scrog for a while, it takes to long & I've had to buy street shit, 12/12 for me next time, the plant I chopped early didn't stretch much & the buds were all really small & fluffy compared to how solid the rest of the plants were, still have 2 AK seeds & gonna do 5 OG13 & 1 AK next grow, AK was a favourite of mine but my first time growing it, it was pretty sensitive to though

sir_dance_alot
08-08-12, 07:22 PM
what was your final yield then mate ?

fingers
08-08-12, 08:35 PM
Still drying at the mo dude, I got 2.5 dry off the shit 1 that didn't stretch, had problems with & had to chop it a week before the others so would say I got 4 oz each off the others easily, the shit 1 was all airy buds to & the other 3 had rock hard nugs & double the size, I'll have a better idea when it's dried, the drying is going well with these

fingers
11-08-12, 01:56 PM
All dried & just gone in to jars, I got a total of 14.5 oz from 4 plants so enough to last me a good few months! Obviously it's not cured yet but the smell, taste & high is out of this world,

Let the curing commence

wah wah
11-08-12, 02:09 PM
...good for you dood.....enjoy.

fingers
11-08-12, 09:30 PM
Cheers mate :-)

Vador
16-08-12, 07:33 PM
Just came across this, it was a very interesting read and I'm surprised at how few people commented especially when you were in trouble.
Well done though you did a good job. Excellent pictures as well, helped me to understand a few things.
After reading this and seeing your pics I realise scrog is basically an LST using a net to keep the branches pinned down.
Shame to hear your not doing another scrog though, perhaps you could introduce an extra plant so it takes less time to fill the net


Drugs and alcohol is never the answer, Unless someone asks what I'm doing tonight

fingers
17-08-12, 10:30 AM
Thanks Vador, (I hope you don't find my lack of faith disturbing)

I am extremely happy with my final result, the taste is incredible & gets me mashed but it took far to long for my liking, I think I'm gonna do a few 12/12s, I was a bit confused why nobody helped me when I needed it but I've learned a lot more on my own & the advice I was given previously has always been shit hot, I was given some really useful advice from Poet on a different thread though, I found canazime really helped during flower, I'm going to do 6 plants next grow, 5 OG 13 & 1 AK47 12/12 all the way this time,

Thanks again dude

Vador
17-08-12, 03:46 PM
Thanks Vador, (I hope you don't find my lack of faith disturbing)
Yeah a little bit lol, going to be starting a scrog in about a weeks time, just been reading loads in the mean time while I get everything set up



I am extremely happy with my final result, the taste is incredible & gets me mashed but it took far to long for my liking, I think I'm gonna do a few 12/12s, I was a bit confused why nobody helped me when I needed it but I've learned a lot more on my own & the advice I was given previously has always been shit hot, I was given some really useful advice from Poet on a different thread though, I found canazime really helped during flower, I'm going to do 6 plants next grow, 5 OG 13 & 1 AK47 12/12 all the way this time,

Thanks again dude
oh well it's all trial and error, at least you can say you have tried it. Nice little assortment of seeds you have there as well, should get some lovely bud from that lot, don't make the same mistake I made though and plant them all in the same container lol, i thought it would make things easier but it just made it worse in the long run
Good luck with your next grow, I will be keeping my eyes peeled for your next diary


Drugs and alcohol is never the answer, Unless someone asks what I'm doing tonight

fingers
17-08-12, 04:08 PM
Good luck with your grow dude & happy smoking!