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    Default Goverment In Dock Over Ganja-must Read!!!

    Britain’s drugs classifications and penalties are arbitrary and unlawful, according to a forthcoming High Court challenge.

    A London man has been granted leave to appeal to the High Court for permission to judicially review the decision to try him for the production of cannabis.

    Medical-marijuana user Edwin Stratton claims the Government’s criminalisation of cannabis does not follow the demands of the law as stated in the Misuse of Drugs Act.

    The High Court judicial review will examine the government’s application of the law, based on British legal system rules that say decisions made by public officials must be procedurally fair, lawful and rational and must include relevant factors and exclude irrelevant factors.

    His appeal is based on four key issues: The unequal and discriminatory application of the law to controlled and non-controlled drug users, and the maladministration of the Misuse of Drugs Act; and the right to privacy and the protection of property rights, as guaranteed to all citizens under the Human Rights Act.

    Mr Stratton, who was charged in May 2008 with production of a controlled substance for his personal cannabis plants, said the Government did not understand its own legislation. While he supports the Misuse of Drugs Act itself, he is essentially challenging the Government’s misapplication of the law, by challenging the courts’ upholding of that misapplication.

    And his claims are supported by the Government’s own Advisory Council for the Misuse of Drugs – the statutory body required to advise on drug laws. In a paper published in The Lancet in 2007 Professor David Nutt, chair of the ACMD, said “The current classification system has evolved in an unsystematic way from somewhat arbitrary foundations with seemingly little scientific basis.”

    The Misuse of Drugs Act is not a policy for prohibition, but of protection. It covers legislation “with respect to drugs which are being or appear likely to be misused and of which the misuse is having or appears capable of having harmful effects sufficient to constitute a social problem”. And it allows for any method of control that best serves in protecting society, including healthcare, education and police intervention.

    Mr Stratton says the Government is preoccupied with criminalising cannabis, while other more harmful drugs, namely alcohol and tobacco, remain legal.

    And figures from both the Department of Health and Office for National Statistics back him up.

    Yearly deaths attributed to tobacco average more than 100,000, alcohol averages around 60,000, while drugs (all drugs, not just cannabis) average less than 1500. When examining death certificates for causes attributed specifically to cannabis, reports state the figures are in some cases single digits, in others, zero.

    Professor Nutt concurred in his Lancet paper: “The exclusion of alcohol and tobacco from the Act is, from a scientific perspective, arbitrary.”

    Mr Stratton said: “The (Misuse of Drugs) Act guarantees that drugs policy must be fair, even-handed and proportionate to the actual harms each drug represents according to evidence.

    “The government is arbitrarily picking and choosing the people to whom it applies the law. That is wholly unlawful.”

    Mr Stratton uses cannabis to alleviate his disabling coeliac condition. It relieves his pain and nausea and increases his appetite, while also enabling him to cut his prescription medication by half.

    In May 2008 police entered and searched Mr Stratton’s house when a nearby fire was feared to be spreading to neighbouring properties. His personal cannabis crop was discovered, but Mr Stratton rejected a police caution, claiming that under the Human Rights Act the denial of his right to grow and possess was discriminatory, and a violation of his privacy and property rights. He was then charged with the production of a controlled drug. But when he appeared at the Waltham Forest Magistrates Court he declined to plead, and moved to quash the indictment on the basis it was an abuse of process. The magistrate agreed to adjourn proceedings and gave Mr Stratton leave to apply to the High Court for judicial review of the decision to prosecute.

    “I’m calling for my prosecution to be forbidden and my indictment to be thrown out, because if the Government doesn’t consider alcohol and tobacco to be productive of social problems sufficient to warrant custody for those involved in property activities (possession) of those drugs, the Government has no cause to lock up those who possess less harmful drugs,” Mr Stratton said.

    “I’m not calling for alcohol to be outlawed, but for users of less harmful drugs to be granted equal human rights to those enjoyed by users of alcohol.”

    The judicial review, currently in a queue waiting to be heard, has potentially wide-reaching consequences, including setting a precedent that says cannabis criminalisation is unlawful and providing a basis for appeal on cannabis-related convictions.

    “All I want is not to be tried, and to have my property and growing equipment returned,” Mr Stratton said.

    “Of course, the ramifications are the important thing – if the High Court finds that I cannot be tried for growing cannabis, the floodgates may open.”

    Darryl Bickler, a non-practicing solicitor and founding member of the Drug Equality Alliance, said Mr Stratton’s case and argument were strong.

    “This case is unique. Frankly, I think it is perfectly timed, and entirely true, so if the courts do their stuff, then it will succeed,” he said.

    The Home Office refused to comment on Mr Stratton’s judicial review, or the potential consequences it poses, until the High Court has handed down its ruling.




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    this promises to be interesting...
    good post redeye

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    CHEERS geez-i hope people read the thread. If everyone applies the knowledge in this letter then the courts would eventually have to listen!

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    Thanks REDEYE_420,

    Great read, I can only hope that the courts will eventually listen to someone from the public who clearly has his head screwed on.

    If they do not they have ignored the public and there own advisory board.... whats next a rogue government?

    If this is a success great, but in this country we still have a long way to go before we can all pop a seed or two in without worry. Maybe this is the court case that we have all been waiting for .... if we all join forces, rally, support this man. They will have to eventually listen to us.... and that is all we are asking so that we can get our logical point across.

    Thanks again Redeye,

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    Great post Redeye.Be watching to see the outcome of this.

    Thanks Redeye
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    Big up Mr. Stratton
    Cheers Redeye

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    Nice post Redeye, sounds promising lets keep our fingers crossed!
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    This sounds promising, i dont have a problem with restricted sale or control, i'm not expecting weed to be 'legalised' and for Coffee shops to spring up over night, but not being allowed to grow your own is not just.

    more info and an interview with Edwin Stratton here Clicky
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    will be interesting to see if his progress is allowed or if the goalposts are moved by rewording or reinterpretation.hmmmmmmmmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by wert View Post
    will be interesting to see if his progress is allowed or if the goalposts are moved by rewording or reinterpretation.hmmmmmmmmmmm
    i 2nd that wert!!
    funny how when something leads to a challenge of the law, the goalposts get moved!!
    bloody mp`s got a cheek after what the been ripping off from the public purse!!

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    if he wins the day i believe it will have some kind of restriction on the ruling ,like only applies to medical users.a win that sets a precedent i donnot think will be acceptable as the consequences of such a win will open the floodgates of the appeal courts..............and i suspect a major flooding of the courts with sicknotes everytime someone is arrested.
    or they may use their old favorite''not in the public interest"to end any discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wert View Post
    or they may use their old favorite''not in the public interest".
    yeh they tried to use this line about there expenses too!!

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    Well why dont we do something to further back the guy ? surely theres something we can do to support being allowed to grow for your own personal use ??
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    If you listen to the podcast bloody hell i PRAY that when this enters the court i hope its documented on tape im no lawyer but tbh it sounds like him and his advisors have a pritty air tight fight on there hands

    whats intresting is when they talk about the missuse of drugs act statments
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    Thanks REDEYE_420,

    Great read, I can only hope that the courts will eventually listen to someone from the public who clearly has his head screwed on.

    If they do not they have ignored the public and there own advisory board.... whats next a rogue government?

    If this is a success great, but in this country we still have a long way to go before we can all pop a seed or two in without worry. Maybe this is the court case that we have all been waiting for .... if we all join forces, rally, support this man. They will have to eventually listen to us.... and that is all we are asking so that we can get our logical point across.

    Thanks again Redeye,

    Ny

    Haha glad you liked the story-show it to as many peeps as you can so word spreads and everyone uses the same system if *touch wood you dont* peeps get busted. Oh yae check JURY NULIFICATION i posted it in LEGAL STUFF.
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    Glad this sparked some interest-as i said in a post earlier spread the word about this story to all u no. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! And to the poster who mentioned backing stratton im up for that-any ideas on what we can ALL do?

    JURY NULIFICATION is another power to challenge the courts-ive posted this in the LEGAL STUFF section-PLEASE spread this around as the more peeps dat no the better-i know if im on a jury and the geeza has a grow on the go of VILLA park im guna aquit the poor fucka!

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    come on Mr. Stratton, still its all about medicinal use, anyone seen super high me? cos i agree with the docter the bud should be legal for smoking for recreational use, not as medicine the medicinal properties of the plants should be used in less harmfull ways eg, tincture, eating it. etc. o you have chronic pain, smoke this plant material as it contains analgesic chemicals, no they should use it to produce a drug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N4TH4N88 View Post
    come on Mr. Stratton, still its all about medicinal use, anyone seen super high me? cos i agree with the docter the bud should be legal for smoking for recreational use, not as medicine the medicinal properties of the plants should be used in less harmfull ways eg, tincture, eating it. etc. o you have chronic pain, smoke this plant material as it contains analgesic chemicals, no they should use it to produce a drug.
    Yea i sin dat movie,wuza gud watch (the one with the comedian enit). I was watching anuva GANJA movie and they were saying that theres only one cancer risk associated with GANJA n it wuz a type of throat cancer,but if peeps smoked GANJA raw then theyd smoke less otherwise they wud jus pass out cuz der too high. So my point is dat even the risk of throat cancer wud b miinimal cuz of less heated plant matter passing through throat into lungs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wert View Post
    if he wins the day i believe it will have some kind of restriction on the ruling ,like only applies to medical users.a win that sets a precedent i donnot think will be acceptable as the consequences of such a win will open the floodgates of the appeal courts..............and i suspect a major flooding of the courts with sicknotes everytime someone is arrested.
    or they may use their old favorite''not in the public interest"to end any discussion.
    The dude (edwin stratton) says that the same case can be run along recreational use as well as medicinal use argument!

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