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The Cannabis oil & Cancer thread
I know from my own experience how difficult it is when a loved one gets the horrible news. This thread is to try and short cut your time in research. I’m no expert, i’m still learning, but i have learnt a fair amount from Cajuncelt & SweetSue. Their support through this difficult time has been invaluable.
THC kills cancer cells, this we know. Wether is can cure “your” cancer or not, who knows. But when you have no other option, what do you have to loose? At the very least, it will ease pain, aid sleep and increase appetite.
This thread will cover delivery methods, bioavailability, supercharging your CO (Bio Bomb), the Canna Budwig protocol & dosing
So lets kick off with an article by Dennis Hill who explains how CCO (concentrated cannabis oil) kill cancer cells
In every cell there is a family of interconvertible sphingolipids that specifically manage the life and death of that cell. This profile of factors is called the “Sphingolipid Rheostat.” If ceramide (a signaling metabolite of sphingosine-1- phosphate) is high, then cell death (apoptosis) is imminent. If ceramide is low, the cell will be strong in its vitality.
Very simply, when THC connects to the CB1 or CB2 cannabinoid receptor site on the cancer cell, it causes an increase in ceramide synthesis which drives cell death. A normal healthy cell does not produce ceramide in the presence of THC, thus is not affected by the cannabinoid.
The cancer cell dies, not because of cytotoxic chemicals, but because of a tiny little shift in the mitochondria. Within most cells there is a cell nucleus, numerous mitochondria (hundreds to thousands), and various other organelles in the cytoplasm. the purpose of the mitochondria is to produce energy (ATP) for cell use. As ceramide starts to accumulate, turning up the Sphingolipid Rheostat, it increases the mitochondrial membrane pore permeability to cytochrome c, a critical protein in energy synthesis. Cytochrome c is pushed out of the mitochondria, killing the source of energy for the cell.
Ceramide also causes genotoxic stress in the cancer cell nucleus generating a protein called p53, whose job it is to disrupt calcium metabolism in the mitochondria. If this weren’t enough, ceramide disrupts the cellular lysosome, the cell’s digestive system that provides nutrients for all cell functions. Ceramide, and other sphingolipids, actively inhibit pro-survival pathways in the cell leaving no possibility at all of cancer cell survival.
The key to this process is the accumulation of ceramide in the system. This means taking therapeutic amounts of cannabinoid extract, steadily, over a period of time, keeping metabolic pressure on this cancer cell death pathway.
How did this pathway come to be? Why is it that the body can take a simple plant enzyme and use it for healing in many different physiological systems? This endocannabinoid system exists in all animal life, just waiting for it’s matched exocannabinoid activator.
This is interesting. Our own endocannabinoid system covers all cells and nerves; it is the messenger of information flowing between our immune system andthe central nervous system (CNS). It is responsible for neuroprotection, and micro- manages the immune system. This is the primary control system that maintains homeostasis; our well being.
Just out of curiosity, how does the work get done at the cellular level, and where does the body make the endocannabinoids? Here we see that endocannabinoids have their origin in nerve cells right at the synapse. When the body is compromised through illness or injury it calls insistently to the endocannabinoid system and directs the immune system to bring healing. If these homeostatic systems are weakened, it should be no surprise that exocannabinoids perform the same function. It helps the body in the most natural way possible.
To see how this works we visualize the cannabinoid as a three dimensional molecule, where one part of the molecule is configured to fit the nerve or immune cell receptor site just like a key in a lock. There are at least two types of cannabinoid receptor sites, CB1 (CNS) and CB2 (immune). In general CB1 activates the CNS messaging system, and CB2 activates the immune system, but it’s much more complex than this. Both THC and anandamide activate both receptor sites. Other cannabinoids activate one or the other receptor sites. Among the strains of Cannabis, C. sativa tends toward the CB1 receptor, and C. indica tends toward CB2. So sativa is more neuroactive, and indica is more immunoactive. Another factor here is that sativa is dominated by THC cannabinoids, and indica is predominately CBD (cannabidiol).
It is known that THC and CBD are biomimetic to anandamide, that is, the body can use both interchangeably. Thus, when stress, injury, or illness demand more from endogenous anandamide than can be produced by the body, its mimetic exocannabinoids are activated. If the stress is transitory, then the treatment can be transitory. If the demand is sustained, such as in cancer, then treatment needs to provide sustained pressure of the modulating agent on the homeostatic systems.
Typically CBD gravitates to the densely packed CB2 receptors in the spleen, home to the body’s immune system. From there, immune cells seek out and destroy cancer cells. Interestingly, it has been shown that THC and CBD cannabinoids have the ability to kill cancer cells directly without going through immune intermediaries. THC and CBD hijack the lipoxygenase pathway to directly inhibit tumor growth. As a side note, it has been discovered that CBD inhibits anandamide reuptake. Here we see that cannabidiol helps the body preserve its own natural endocannabinoid by inhibiting the enzyme that breaks down anandamide.
Smoking cannabis
Smoking cannabis is great way for instant pain relief, aiding sleep, as well as helping to reduce nausea and vomiting from chemotherapy side affects. I know my friend found it a god send.
Cannabis Oil
Making Cannabis oil is a very simple process. If i can do it, anyone can. You will find a step by step guide below
https://www.thctalk.com/cannabis-foru...d-Cannabis-Oil
Delivery methods
Tacking to the front of your gum.
Easier said than done!
Squeeze the oil out the syringe onto your finger
Using a cotton bud, cut the cotton end off
Roll the tack (oil) into the plastic tube
Dry the gum
Roll the tack onto the gum
Smooth out with your finger
You want a film on the gum, not a blob. Providing you do not swallow any, there should be no euphoria.
Ingesting.
Simply swallowing the CO but intense high will be felt. This is not to everyones liking.
Sublingual (under the tongue)
Wrap your dose up in some rice paper and fold. Place under your tongue and wait for it to dissolve. Try not to swallow if you want to avoid euphoria
Suppositories
A great way to to get higher dose into your system without the high
Now You have your cannabis oil, you’re ready to go……Not quite.
It’s said you need to consume at least 1 gram of CO per day. Good quality flowers will produce 4-5 grams of oil per ounce. You can already see just how much oil you are going to need so we need to make sure we get the best from our medicine.
Supercharging your cannabis oil
Now we need to increase the bioavailability of our Concentrated Cannabis Oil (CCO)
Taking any cannabinoids orally has a horrible metabolism & bioavailability rate. A maximum of 10-20% of the medicine gets through so now we are going to supercharge our medicine by adding the Bio Bomb (many thanks Cajuncelt)
This recipe will give us 16 size 00 capsules, each containing around 62 mg of CCO. Now that doesn’t sound like much, but the bio bomb increases bioavailability way beyond simply taking the CCO with a carrier oil If being high is of no concern then go ahead and swallow these capsules. However, you can use these as suppositories too. To get a higher dose, just take more capsules
Bio Bomb Capsules One gram volume is equivalent to 1 ml.
1 gm CCO + 5 gm Non-Lignan flaxseed oil. Gently heated together
Add 10 gm liquid sunflower lecithin and mix well
Refrigerate for 24 hrs
After 24 hrs, gently warm in a hot water bath until the mixture is runny enough to get into a syringe
Fill capsules
Other long-chain fatty acids can be substituted, i.e. extra virgin olive, grape seed.
For liver cancer go with the medium-chained coconut oil.
Avoid flaxseed if treating estrogen-based cancer, such as some breast cancers.
How to make suppositories (thanks cajun)
Cocoa butter is a common base for suppositories. Pharmacists combine the butter with the active ingredient, or medicine, then form it into cylinders. Freeze your cocoa-butter suppositories on a tray after you form them, so they hold their shape, then keep them in a freezer bag for longterm storage.
Cannabis Note:
There is no psychoactive reactions when applied in this method. Therefore the dosage is not as critical as an oral dose and may be increased safely. Best applied for liver, rectal and colon cancer, and vaginal issues.
Things You'll Need:
Cooking tray
Freezer bag
Cocoa Butter Instructions:
Mix your dosage of cannabis oil and cocoa-butter according to your recommendation. 1/2 gram of cannabis oil for every 2 grams of cocoa butter is a good start. We will Make 2 1/2 gram suppositories (make each suppository 2.5 grams total in size). This will provide 1/2 gram cannabis oil per dose. Since cocoa butter is much more dense than coconut oil you must heat the cocoa butter/cannabis oil mixture together and mix thoroughly. Next let it cool and form the suppositories. You can gage what a 2.5 gram suppository looks like by using a syringe and drawing up 2.5 grams while the mixture is still warm. Place the warm mixture into a small shot glass or container and refrigerate. Form this into a single suppository. Keep refrigerated. note the size.
- Mix your cocoa-butter and cannabis oil. cool mixture
- Form your cocoa-butter suppositories and place them spaced out on a cooking tray.
- Put the suppositories in the freezer until they have solidified; about an hour will suffice.
o keep them in a freezer bag for long-term storage
Insert the suppositories no more than 2"
Before insertion:
It is important to wash your hands thoroughly before insertion of a suppository, as germs and bacteria can enter the body through the rectum.
Disposable medical gloves or a finger cot can be used for this purpose.
Ensure that fingernails are trimmed and have no sharp edges.
Ensure the suppository is firm enough to insert.
If it is too soft, harden it in the package by placing it in either the fridge or freezer.
Suppositories can also be quickly hardened in the package by running cold water over them.
If only half of a suppository is being used, cut it lengthwise to make insertion easier.
When cutting, make sure to use a sterile knife or scissors.
Avoid sharp edges! Suppositories can be gently smoothed by hand.
-Insertion
Lie on your preferred side with your top leg pulled up towards your chest.
Lift your upper butt-cheek to expose your rectum.
Insert the suppository lengthwise, with the pointed tip first, using your index finger to push the suppository in.
-Placement
Ensure the suppository has been inserted past the anal sphincter. If not inserted fully past the sphincter, some or all of the suppository may be expelled without the active ingredients reaching the rectal wall and being absorbed into the blood stream.
It is important to not place the suppository too high up in the rectum.
If placed too high, the active constituents will enter the Superior (upper) hemorrhoidal artery, which leads to the liver. This presents the same problem as oral application, as the liver will metabolize a significant proportion of the active ingredients.
The suppository should ideally be placed around 2 ½ to 4 centimetres (1 to 1 ½ inches) into the rectum, just past the anal sphincter.
-After insertion
Hold your buttocks together and tightly squeeze the muscles in your sphincter for a few seconds after insertion to help keep the suppository from sliding out.
Remain lying on your side for several minutes after insertion to allow the suppository to fully diffuse through the rectum. This will also help to prevent the unintended expulsion of the suppository.
Dispose of the glove or finger cot sanitarily and wash your hands thoroughly using soap and hot water, paying extra attention to cleaning under the nails and between the fingers.
Be very aware of the possibility of unintended expulsion of melted suppository residue during flatulence over the next few hours after insertion. If you have ANY doubts, use a toilet.
I used 5ml syringes to mould them. Simply cut the end off to open the syringe up. Fill, freeze and then push out.
The Canna Budwig Protocol
Here’s how to do it.
Wondering why? Many thanks to SweetSue for explaining this to me…
The cottage cheese contains the amino acid cysteine. Cysteine contains sulphydryl groups, which are groups having a sulfur atom bonded to a hydrogen atom. The carrier oil contains polyunsaturated fatty acids, most importantly alpha-linoleic (omega-3) and linoleic (omega-6).
When you combine the cottage cheese and the carrier oil the sulphydryl groups and the polyunsaturated fatty acids cause a chemical reaction that makes the carrier oil water soluble. This allows the carrier oil, and the meds we've bonded to that carrier oil by also using lecithin in our mix, to be absorbed into the cell membranes.
The cell membranes are supported by the unsaturated fatty acids, which have an electron cloud, allowing them to bond to oxygen. This aids in cellular respiration. Without the essential fatty acids the cells struggle to get adequate oxygen. Cancer cells can't survive in a highly oxygenated atmosphere. One of the things that needs to happen to allow cancer to get a foothold is a breakdown in the cellular respiration rate.
Dosing
Cannabinoids only stay in our system for 3-4 hrs. When you’re fighting cancer, you must dose 5-6 times per day to keep contact pressure on the tumours. The idea is to get up to at least 1 gram per day. Start off slowly, 100 - 200 mg per day and gradually increase
Its a good idea to to make use of all delivery methods. Attack from all sides.
I shall add to this, but for now, it’s all i can manage.
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Just adding to the above
Sublingual method would require using the Bio Bomb.
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Here is a small list of strains recommended by Cajun
Some good strains:
-Sativa's (day)
Blue Dream, Tangie, C99, Green Cr&ck, Strawberry Cough, Jack Here, Sour D., S. Silver Haze, S. Lemon Haze, Durban Poison.
Indicas (night):
Kosher Kush, White Widow, Darkstar, Bubba Kush, Blue Cheese, OG Kush are a few. Any with good oil production.
CBD Strains:
AC/DC, Harlequin, CBD Critical Cure, Harley Tzu, most strains by the CBD Crew.
It's recommended a 2:1 mix of THC-CBD for day and as pure indica for evenings. No CBD for evenings
The CBD will help keep euphoria down and assit with pain and inflammation
A few days back i made some oil using Big Buddha Cheese. The yield is terrible so thats one to avoid
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Good evening folks, since our Chew is gonna be offline for a while I'll try to continue where he left off...
Since two most important thing we'll be talking about here are "Competitive inhibition" and "Liposomal encapsulation" let's start there...
The whole pharmacogenomics thing means that some people will be genetically predisposed to metabolise THC at different rates and so benefit to differing degrees.
Due to the low and varied bioavailability of oral THC formulations, alternative routes of drug administration, including oromucosal (through the mouth lining), sublingual (under the tongue), vaporization and inhalation, and rectal administration, have been developed by pharmaceutical companies to improve the amount of delivered cannabinoids in their products. All medical user should take note of their measures. This is an industry that would much prefer to produce a usable cannabis pill. That they don't is for good reason.
The future of successful Dosing - “Competitive Inhibition”
Competitive inhibition allows for greater circulation of cannabinoids through your system.
This is achieved when certain enzymes in your liver (CYP2C9) are occupied whilst the THC is going through. The metabolism of THC, into 11-OH-THC produces a molecule many times more psychoactive but with ‘key medical benefits deactivated’. It's counter intuitive but the amount of healing occurring cannot easily be judged by the height of the high. THC will be long gone by the time the effects of the 11-OH-THC have stopped being felt.
The enzymes that metabolise cannabinoids are mainly found in the liver. A cannabinoid entering the liver is more likely to connect with an enzyme and be metabolised than to connect with a cancerous cell. Slowing metabolism does not however result in a stronger high. Slowing metabolism of THC to 11-OH-THC means the more psychoactive metabolite's entry into the body is spread out over a longer period. Consequently a person is less likely be made uneasy by a strong more condensed wave of psychoactivity.
Beneficially certain plant molecules are metabolised by the same enzymes that metabolise most THC molecules. The enzyme is called CYP2C9 and the molecules are apigenin and amentoflavone. Apigenin can be found in tablets and certain foods and amentoflavone is available in supplement form. These molecules, as well as having additional benefits, will give the enzymes "busy work" allowing the cannabinoids greater opportunity to circulate, connect with and destroy mutated cells both in the liver and throughout the body.
Apigenin and Amentoflavone reduce "clearance" by >80%, a strong inhibitor. As one cannot overdose on cannabis we can safely harness this strong competitive inhibition. This will allow cannabinoids greater chance to heal and maximise the benefits of an often expensive and limited supply.
Reduce clearance by (more than)> 80%, means, a lot of THC is not converted to 11-OH-THC. And has a chance of attaching to the receptors.
Certain essential oils will increase bioavailability. Some inhibit the metabolism of CBD. . The phenolic oils clean methylated receptors and myrcene assists THC across the blood brain barrier. Eating 15ml of coconut oil approximately 30 minutes before taking oil by any method will make a big difference. Busy the enzymes themselves and bioavailability might improve >5x.
Remember, High is not proportionate to healing.
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By incorporating carrier oils (extra virgine olive oil, flaxseed oil, coconut oil) into our protocol and mixing it with liquid sunflower lecithin we can form a lipid layer around our medicine and help it on the very bumpy road through our body to the spot it needs to heal... The concept itself is not new and has been in use since the 70's, it's most popular use is in administration of high vitamin C doses and chemotherapy... We just swiped the idea...
The “Magic” of Liposomal Encapsulation Technology...
Liposomes are sub-microscopic bubbles made of a class of substances called phospholipids. Virtually every cell in the human body is encapsulated by a membrane made from phospholipids...
When phospholipid layers are placed in certain solutions (carrier oils) and under certain conditions (liquid sunflower lecithin), liposomal bubbles automatically form. These tiny bubbles are filled with host solution (cannabinoids) and now protect the enclosed substance from exposure to degrading substances in the surrounding environment...
This is particularly important for anti-cancer medicine like cannabis oil that is easily metabolized and digested by our body!!!
Phospholipids are also impervious to digestive juices which make liposomes ideal for transporting acid- and enzyme-reactive substances like CCO through the digestive tract. In addition, the submicroscopic size of cannabinoid-filled liposomes is so small that they easily pass through the intestinal barrier without requiring help from an active transport system or from osmotic pressure in the gut...
Hence, virtually all of the medicine is carried straight to the cells that need it...
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Demethylation of CB receptors potentially gives us all the same chance for healing so it is a very important precursor to every therapy...
Thoughts on Demethylation and the Methylation Cycle...
"If the body is made up of bricks, then methylation is the laying of each individual brick. " - Patrick Quillin
Please keep in mind this is the most basic explanation for the wonderfully complex methylation cycle. Also, remember that aberrant methylation is caused by something unknown and that trigger may be impossible to determine, since it could be something environmental, something you ate when you were 12 or keep eating despite knowing better or even something as tragic as being isolated from your mother during the first week of your life...
Your body is a constant cacophony of chemical reactions. We tend to think of them in isolated events, but the closer analogy would be buckets full of molecules awaiting movement and activity as assigned by the attending enzymes. An integral part of this activity is the passing of methyl groups, a carbon molecule bonded to three hydrogen molecules. These are akin to work orders for the enzymes, directing the expression or silencing of the gene to affect the change required to keep everything stable in this corner of the body/world...
Methylation is the exchange of the methyl groups so necessary for the chemical reactions that make you who you are. Methylation is what determines gene expression and protein function. It's what determines how you feel, think, see, look, are...
It turns out there's a quirk that seems to occur in the methylation cycle that's a precursor to cancer and continues as cancer grows. A genetic mutation causes an imbalance of proteins that causes an imbalance in the methylation cycle and the genes that regulate the cannabinoid receptors are overwhelmed by swarms of methyl groups, effectively silencing them. We call this hypermethylation. If the genes regulating the receptors are being silenced they can't communicate with the receptors, the cannabinoids can't attach and the work of eliminating that cancer cell can't take place. Instead, the cancer cell grows and replicates... The tumor advances...
The challenge then becomes getting these receptors cleaned so that the cannabinoids you worked so hard to acquire will have the best chance of helping your body return to health by eliminating the cancer cells. There are some surprisingly easy and tasty ways to do this...
* green tea: contains EGCG, catechins & is a cancer killer all on its own too. Green tea acts as an antioxidant, induces apoptosis, inhibits metastasis, cell proliferation, histamine effects, tumor-indused problems, etc.
* mangoes: Always best fresh, of course, but there're juices on the market worth looking at and in a pinch, baby food lines have started to include mangoes in their pureed fruit bags.
* green apples: Recent findings indicate that DNA demethylation is mediated by Tet (ten eleven translocation) enzymes, which convert 5-methylcytosine (5-mC) to 5-hydroxymethylcytosine (5-hmC).
It's been determined that vitamin C, which can be found in fruits such as apples and oranges, induces Tet-dependent DNA demethylation in mouse embryonic stem (ES) cells when present in cell culture media.
Yes, it's animal research but we are, after all, animals ourselves, so a certain amount of extrapolation can be safely applied. "An apple a day" makes much more sense now, doesn't it?
* grapefruit juice: Be cautious if you're on certain cardiac meds that disallow grapefruit. There're other options.
* cinnamon: Take 1/8 tsp a day. It goes down easy with squeezed lemon and a spoon of honey.
* dark chocolate (90%): To the uninitiated this tastes nasty the first time, but give your palate a chance to adjust to the difference.
* olive oil: I have no idea how much, but it's a sure bet that a tablespoon a day wouldn't hurt. Use it in cooking. Use it a lot. Dip bread into it for a quick snack. Infuse it with cannabis and make it even better for you.
In an interview with Project CBD, Mauro Maccarone, a scientist at the University of Teramo, Italy shared these thoughts:
Maccarone hypothesized that olive oil might counter some of the adverse effects of methylation.
“We found that olive oil, in particular the phenolic components of olive oil, can reactivate CB-1 expression. By adding olive oil to an animal’s diet, we can restore a normal CB-1 receptor level that will protect cells against cancer,” Maccarone explained.
“This is very interesting and very promising because it suggests that the normal daily impact of the right amount of olive oil could be protective and could give us a better chance of a healthy life.”
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Nice one Dexter
Just adding to the above...
Help to aid demethylation?
Phenolic oils can help demethylate the receptors. As an added bonus, the terpene myrcene is reputed to assist THC in crossing the blood/brain barrier.
Essential Oils Capsules
Use Size 0 capsules, fill with 5 drops of the essential oil (detailed below) topped up with Virgin Olive Oil. Take one of each of the following twice per day. Drink plenty of water/liquid with them.
5 drops of essential oregano oil topped up with virgin olive oil
* The oregano oil is very potent. Wash your hands after use. It's normal to get a heat sensation after taking it. Oregano is a strong anti-fungal.
5 Drops of essential lemon oil topped up with virgin olive oil
5 Drops of essential Clove oil topped up with virgin olive oil
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Here is a good video that i was pointed to. It explains what meant by First Pass Metabolism
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Pre dosing. Credit to cajun & SS
Begin by eating about 30-40 minutes before you dose. Your main focus here is to get the liver occupied so that when you dose it's busy with the previous "meal" and more cannabinoids will slip by unmolested. Since the liver is the organ responsible for processing oils, a good option is a tablespoon full of coconut oil, which is easily absorbed by the small intestines and transported to the liver. You give the liver busy work and get the fabulous nutritional benefits of coconut oil all at once. Win/win.
**A cautionary note** Coconut oil is contraindicated as a prep for treating liver cancer. You want the coconut oil you introduce to have cannabinoids with it and you want them to get straight to the liver, so the coconut oil you use is the carrier oil for the CCO. With liver cancer the use of supplements is necessary to creatively inhibit the liver.
The enzymes in the liver that metabolize most of the THC are aggressive by nature, and it behooves you to get them busy before dosing and keep them busy as you dose. As it turns out, there are some plant molecules, apigenin and amentoflavone, that attract those very same enzymes, known as CYP2C9. So you're increasing your odds by flooding the field with distractions.
Aside from being "busy work" for the enzymes, apigenin and amentoflavone offer some interesting benefits. I found twenty different anti-cancer effects of apigenin alone, among them the ability to inhibit angiogenesis (growing new blood vessels so the cell can continue to live) and to promote cell apoptosis (suicide) and that wasn't an all-inclusive list. Cajun shared that his oncologist recommended he take 1.5 grams of apigenin daily. He admits to taking about 500 mg a day because he just got sick of the number of pills. I can certainly understand that.
You can get apigenin from food sources, (Ginko Biloba, for one) but at the recommended levels I think a source for tablets might be necessary. It's easy to find. You're treating cancer. Big guns are called for.
Amentoflavone has been used for centuries in Chinese medicine as an anti-cancer medication. I browsed through an interesting Chinese study of the anti-cancer mechanisms of amentoflavone in the destruction of typical breast cancer MCF-7 cells. To be blunt, the amentoflavone degraded the integrity of the mitochondrial wall until it shredded and the tumor cell died. Interestingly enough, this was one of the mechanisms used by cannabinoids to cause cell death. Fascinating. Amentoflavone has been used in traditional medicine as an antioxidant, vasorelaxant, anti-HIV and anti-angiogenesis agent. Again, not an inclusive list of the potential benefits.
Amentoflavone is also available as a supplement. One commonly used by weight lifters is Amentomax.
As Cajun so succinctly put it:
"These molecules, as well as having additional benefits, will give the enzymes "busy work" allowing the cannabinoids greater opportunity to circulate, connect with and destroy mutated cells both in the liver and throughout the body"
The Plan: 30-40 minutes before you dose
- a tablespoon of coconut oil (unless you're treating liver cancer)
- 80mg of apigenin
- 200mg of amentoflavone
- a cup of mango.
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Alright folks, hope everyone is doing good today... I know I am...
I've been doing some oil tests with 10g of herb per batch, been testing SCET vs QWET winterization, oven decarb vs oil decarb and testing some essential oils for terpen supplement as we loose them all in the process of decarboxylation, both in oven and oil...
So, SCET method yielded 1.5+ grams of beautiful deep golden oil and QWET yielded 1.2 grams of same quality oil so slightly less... Not a deciding factor yet until I run couple of consecutive tests, might have fucked up something this time but I doubt it...
Oil decarb vs oven decarb didn't make any influence on quantity or quality as far as I can tell and we'll have to see about the effects, I'll report back on that...
Addition of essential oils is to substitute some of the important terpenes we lost in the process of making oil:
Copaiba for beta-caryophyllene,
Lavander for linalool,
Lemongrass for myrcene,
Sweet orange for limonen
As Chew already mentioned you can take capsulated supplement for terpenes but I decided to incorporate them into the BioBomb mix, it definitely improves the flavor and fragrance of the end product and also gains the full benefits of liposomal encapsulation imo...
Also a friend has been using this oils in his fresh herb/olive oil extract for several years and with good success... I'll try to post his way of doing oil sometime tomorrow, it's very interesting and has a potentially very different medical properties than our version and woul be a great addition to the protocol imo... I know I'll use it...
I tested two capsules of BioBomb based on olive oil with and without this essential oils, the amount of cannabinoids was only 10mg per capsule so 20mg all together... Had a teaspoon of coconut oil and lit up a light joint in anticipation... 10 minutes later I had a grin on my face and saturated feeling really good, like you do on edibles but much more mellow and easy going... The sensation lasted over five hour with slight deviation in euphoria but in general I was feeling outstanding and did shit loads of things in that time...
Very creative high with good motor skills to get shit done, so I guess that's about my ideal recreational dose... Maybe one capsule in the morning and one in the afternoon would be better, we shal see tomorrow...
Night folks and stay healthy...
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