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    Default Grow diary: First Space Bucket

    My very first grow and i think it would be good to keep track of it here and hopefully get some feedback from you guys.

    It's a pretty standard space bucket, aside from slightly differently shaped buckets (around the top) that don't give me the luxury of easily stacking them neatly. I used small metal L brackets to ensure the buckets would stack the way i wanted to. That does lead to light leak but i'm not overly concerned since it's in a closet, even though it might waste a little light.

    5 gal bucket
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    My First Ghetto-ass Space Bucket.
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    I used 5 CFL lights totalling 190w. 3x40w 6400k + 2x35w 2700k and wired them in parallel. I was very careful with the electrics to get the right rated wire for the current, using terminal blocks and duct tape liberally. I plan on keeping that configuration of spectrums to harvest although i do have spares and can change it if necessary.
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    I used two 44 cfm 120mm fans, one for inlet, one for outlet.

    I germinated in Root Riot cubes under an incandescent light to keep the temps at about 24C. After 5 day i transferred it to the Space Bucket.
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    Will continue...
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    Soil used is John Inn's No. 2, mixed with 20% perlite and 10% vermiculite since i had it lying around. The strain i decided on is Big Bag. May seem like there's a lot of hype around it but it's indica dominant so i assume easier to keep short.

    Early beginnings
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    Nutrients i'm using will be Biobizz grow, bloom and top-max, going by their schedule. I have PH testing strips and PH Up and Down to adjust the PH. Ill start doing that when i start the feed. I have heard that this isn't that important with soil grows but oh well, can't hurt.

    I also used mylar inside the buckets, just fyi.
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    Almost forgot to mention, i plan to do LST to control the height and level out the plant. I will keep it on a 20/4 veg until flowering and i will/may top it too, but only when there's a good few nodes.

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    Will certainly join this ride.
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    Hey Viz. Thanks. I am in a slight panic after a small learning curve though. Don't drop your mobile phone on a seedling. It's fine, but holding a phone inside a small bucket next to a delicate plant might be an unwise idea.

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    How are you going to deal with the smell?
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    You know, i originally put a lot of effort in to designing a little carbon filter which would be pretty easy really, but nobody in my vicinity is very concerned about smell and everyone in the household is aware of the grow. Besides, i smoke weed about 2 meters away from it anyway so i'd imagine it won't be a major concern.

    M_C, apologies for the links. I will be careful in future. Feel free, no shit, to remove my previous links. Besides, people can google stuff. We're not little kids here i hope

    Edit: Calling my own bullshit. It would smell if i had those huge gaps in the buckets regardless, but originally i wanted to use an airtight Rubbermaid setup. In future i might still try that. I just fell in love with Space Buckets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miaouing View Post
    You know, i originally put a lot of effort in to designing a little carbon filter which would be pretty easy really, but nobody in my vicinity is very concerned about smell and everyone in the household is aware of the grow. Besides, i smoke weed about 2 meters away from it anyway so i'd imagine it won't be a major concern.

    M_C, apologies for the links. I will be careful in future. Feel free, no shit, to remove my previous links. Besides, people can google stuff. We're not little kids here i hope

    Edit: Calling my own bullshit. It would smell if i had those huge gaps in the buckets regardless, but originally i wanted to use an airtight Rubbermaid setup. In future i might still try that. I just fell in love with Space Buckets.
    Nah, we're all grown ups (hopefully ) ...just we also have sponsors to be mindful of as they pay the bills around here

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    Quote Originally Posted by M_C View Post
    Nah, we're all grown ups (hopefully ) ...just we also have sponsors to be mindful of as they pay the bills around here
    I can understand that. I used to host (gaming-related) forums myself and the one thing i learned from doing that is that the competition between forums is unprecedented. Just to keep forums relevant and well-maintained takes so much effort, as well as keeping a good moderating team. You are doing a great job.

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    Will follow this one I think.
    Mad mini grow : )
    My advice is a very quick veg an seedling straight
    In final pot.
    Or 12/12 from seed would probably
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    Quote Originally Posted by ERBURT View Post
    Will follow this one I think.
    Mad mini grow : )
    My advice is a very quick veg an seedling straight
    In final pot.
    Or 12/12 from seed would probably
    Be better.
    Is that because of height restrictions? I do plan on using the tops of other buckets for spacers and originally had a ball park figure of a month veg, especially since i want to top it. Flowering it really early gives me the feeling i'd lose out on a good period of plant development.

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    I'll be following this one, looks an interesting grow

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    Your CFL don't have much penetration so you don't
    Want a tall plant.and yes for height.
    I have 1 metre from top of pot to my max light height
    I veg for one week after potting up and that with harsh training
    Gives me a 2ft plant.as CFL is slower I'd maybe give it 2 weeks
    After pot up at the most.

    Autos would be better in there I reckon

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    interesting grow ,will be keeping an eye out on this one good luck

    and dont fook about with your ph in soil ............ it will only lead to problems

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    Quote Originally Posted by ERBURT View Post
    Your CFL don't have much penetration so you don't
    Want a tall plant.and yes for height.
    I have 1 metre from top of pot to my max light height
    I veg for one week after potting up and that with harsh training
    Gives me a 2ft plant.as CFL is slower I'd maybe give it 2 weeks
    After pot up at the most.

    Autos would be better in there I reckon
    I was so torn between photoperiod and autoflowering, but in the end i though i might as well go for photos since i have a timer.
    Thanks very much though. I think ill stick to you advice of max two weeks before switching, along with stress training.
    My idea is to sort of spiral the plant around and keep the colas at an even height. Seems like an efficient use of space,
    especially with CFLs.

    Think topping or similar would be beneficial here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dazmandaz View Post
    interesting grow ,will be keeping an eye out on this one good luck

    and dont fook about with your ph in soil ............ it will only lead to problems
    Fair point. I hear it's often counterproductive in soil, although at least i know that if i see problems relating to PH i can hopefully fix them.

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    Yeah I'd top it and bend the shoots,that will give you
    Even canopy hopefully.really need a flat canopy for
    Penetration.

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    That was my 600w CFL grow.hopefully that is the right pg.no pics at the start.
    If I rem right those lights gave me 1 ft of proper penetration.
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    Thanks ERBURT. Sounds like a plan. Given it's my first real attempt at a grow many would say not to top but i feel i've done enough research on LST and topping and have experience in general horticulture anyway.
    Besides, i'll be sure to run anything by you guys first before the chop. I'll just keep the goal in mind. I simply want to encourage the plant to not grow in the typical tree style but instead get the canopy as even as possible, making sure as much surface area as possible is exposed to equal light. I have soft pipe cleaners which should do the job for LST. I've read lots of "horror" stories about ties digging in to plants and potentially inhibiting growth of branches so i want to avoid that by checking the ties regularly.
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    Hi guys, i read this advice, specific to space buckets.

    It is better to flower early than late. As a rule of thumb, give your plant about one month of veg before flipping to flower. You can veg for more, sure, but that can also mean a taller plant inside the bucket. Cannabis plants can get really tall really fast in the first weeks of flower, something we usually call "the stretch". Fight the stretch with all the tools you've learnt and you will have a good harvest. Different strains have different heights, but you should always try to keep it as short as you can. That means that you need to train your plant early and hard: I apply LST after the second week, and also at least one topping. Supercropping can be a great way to limit the stretch while strenghtening the plant. As a rule of thumb, don't let your bucket use more than 4 or 5 spacers. If you go higher than that the lighting won't be optimized, and you will have a poor yield with popcorn buds.
    Any thoughts on that? I understand that topping too early is at best counterproductive and at worst very damaging. Topping when there's a few leaf sets seems like the consensus amongst people. Will the plant be well enough developed by two weeks for topping? Should i drop topping altogether and maybe go for FIM, or none? I assume i shouldn't top while the plant is flowering. I basically feel that topping the plant and not allowing adequate time for the resulting other nodes to grow well will defeat the point of the topping.
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    Soon as the plant has 4-5 nodes top it.
    And train/bend the shoots as soon as they are
    Long enuff.this will keep them down and easy
    To manage and ending nice n even after stretch.
    Defo don't veg for a month jus 2 weeks id do.

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