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    Hi all, it is was my understanding that chemical nutes are harmful to soil life. Is this true? If so why would we bother using products like GWS. I cant get my head around the remarkable results Of GWS and the theory that chemical nutes kill soil life. Cheers

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    Many many times I've told people even using to high of a phosphorus number will make microbial activity lower even redundant more so the myco.Think about this in your res's people. (All mediums)
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    You can manipulate the organic side of things by using compost which contains natural food and is bio active for a few weeks but soon as you start to add synthetic/chem nutes then your micro herd is on death row. If you want to go full on organic then use organic specific feeds and additives...

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    Thanks guys I was hoping you 2 would drop in. Bud I know your a fan of GWS and have run experiments on it as well. Am i right in thinking that once you start feeding your killing that herd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bud Lightyear View Post
    ...soon as you start to add synthetic/chem nutes then your micro herd is on death row.
    Even when feeding at reduced strengths? I'm in a soil based medium and I'm using some synthetics to boost a bit and manage any deficiencies that might come up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokedragon View Post
    Even when feeding at reduced strengths? I'm in a soil based medium and I'm using some synthetics to boost a bit and manage any deficiencies that might come up.
    This is one of the reasons im asking as well. Ive spent alot of time feeding the soil life in my pots even b4 planting, but my feed is not totally orgnic. I may have wasted my time. Also in coco Ive used the GWS but now im feeding totall synthetic nutes doesnt make sense to spend good money on GWS if im gunna kill it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokedragon View Post
    Even when feeding at reduced strengths? I'm in a soil based medium and I'm using some synthetics to boost a bit and manage any deficiencies that might come up.
    High phosphorus will make them either do there job less because they rely on root exudates for food and if your feeding the plants then they stop exudating from the root and the myco become less active or redundant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bud Lightyear View Post
    You can manipulate the organic side of things by using compost which contains natural food and is bio active for a few weeks but soon as you start to add synthetic/chem nutes then your micro herd is on death row. If you want to go full on organic then use organic specific feeds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbit View Post
    This is one of the reasons im asking as well. Ive spent alot of time feeding the soil life in my pots even b4 planting, but my feed is not totally orgnic. I may have wasted my time. Also in coco Ive used the GWS but now im feeding totall synthetic nutes doesnt make sense to spend good money on GWS if im gunna kill it.
    If you keep the environment right I don't think you'll notice the gws missing, and still why lay out that money when you can culture your own BIM'S ( beneficial indigenous microorganisms) for pennies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsiel View Post
    High phosphorus will make them either do there job less because they rely on root exudates for food and if your feeding the plants then they stop exudating from the root and the myco become less active or redundant


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    Very true Bud,
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    If you keep the environment right I don't think you'll notice the gws missing, and still why lay out that money when you can culture your own BIM'S ( beneficial indigenous microorganisms) for pennies.
    I hear you mate. Thats kinda my point why add GWS if your gunna kill it any way??

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    If you keep the environment right I don't think you'll notice the gws missing, and still why lay out that money when you can culture your own BIM'S ( beneficial indigenous microorganisms) for pennies.[/QUOTE]


    Im having a hard time finding out what organics are containing what bennies. Obviously worm castings have alot but I cant find any info on which ones exactly
    On the subject of BIM , i have to wonder if growing non indigenous plants in BIM is maximising its potential. While im sure it has a lot of benefits , BIM would be better for native species but my mind still wanders when im thinking introduced species. By the way Australian soils are extremely old and contain very little P. Its one of the reasons we have so many environmental probs here due to the amount of superphosphates farmers have been using to compensate.

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