Cannabis more often detected in workers than any other drugs - New Zealand Herald

[Inky]

Cannabis more often detected in workers than any other drugs New Zealand Herald Cannabis is still the most common drug ''by a country mile'' found when staff are tested, farmers attending a workshop in Ashburton last week heard. Therese Gibbens, general manager of the Canterbury West Coast area for The Drug Detection Agency, said ...

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[M_C]

Yadda, yadda, yadda...

Could the answer be that it is a urine test that will show cannabis history for a lot longer than crack cocaine, heroin or LSD?

It ain't really a drugs test at that point, it's a formal invasion of privacy! after all, if Fred, the farmer, had a spliff 4 days ago, does any reasonably minded person really think it would affect their performance/judgement after all that time? Therese Gibbens obviously does, that's why she is general manager for a company that pushes urine testing for drugs!

Let's put this another way...

Urine testing doesn't test for impairment from drugs, it doesn't test if you are under the influence of drugs... it just tests for metabolites... Test out the theory if you wish! Find a non smoker, give them the biggest joint you can roll of the strongest stuff you have... when they are 'mashed out their face' then urine test them - and they will pass! (bet you all didn't know that!) - but they will fail the next day!

Urine testing isn't fit for purpose!

[British green]

Yadda, yadda, yadda...

Could the answer be that it is a urine test that will show cannabis history for a lot longer than crack cocaine, heroin or LSD?

It ain't really a drugs test at that point, it's a formal invasion of privacy! after all, if Fred, the farmer, had a spliff 4 days ago, does any reasonably minded person really think it would affect their performance/judgement after all that time? Therese Gibbens obviously does, that's why she is general manager for a company that pushes urine testing for drugs!

Let's put this another way...

Urine testing doesn't test for impairment from drugs, it doesn't test if you are under the influence of drugs... it just tests for metabolites... Test out the theory if you wish! Find a non smoker, give them the biggest joint you can roll of the strongest stuff you have... when they are 'mashed out their face' then urine test them - and they will pass! (bet you all didn't know that!) - but they will fail the next day!

Urine testing isn't fit for purpose!

I get tested regularly for my line of work and they are only interested if I'm under the influence and not a user . I don't work nor drive under the influence of anything other than money 😃


Sent from a green pleasant land

[M_C]

I get tested regularly for my line of work and they are only interested if I'm under the influence and not a user . I don't work nor drive under the influence of anything other than money 

A mouth swab or blood test I assume then?

[British green]

A mouth swab or blood test I assume then?

Mouth swab and I've refused blood and urine tests on the grounds that it's a invasion of my privacy and told them I have hiv but would not want this disclosing in public. They backed the fuck away from me . Lol . I'm a trained first aidder and trained as a medic . I wouldn't refuse anyone any help under the same terms. Knowledge is power 😃


Sent from a green pleasant land

[M_C]

I think a mouth test is more than fair, after all, are they after people under the influence, or are they invading your 'right to a private life'? (as enshrined in the Human Right Act).

I'd have no issue providing a swab, as that would show the current 'state of play' with drugs, as a breathalyser would with alcohol. But I think urine tests are invading a persons personal life & are no more than a means to 'snoop' on someone outside of the workplace.

[British green]

I think a mouth test is more than fair, after all, are they after people under the influence, or are they invading your 'right to a private life'? (as enshrined in the Human Right Act).

I'd have no issue providing a swab, as that would show the current 'state of play' with drugs, as a breathalyser would with alcohol. But I think urine tests are invading a persons personal life & are no more than a means to 'snoop' on someone outside of the workplace.

It's all about big brother and profile building. I'm happy to be tested under the same regs as a breathalyser and would always give a sample. You wanna look into my private life you might as well come for tea uninvited 😃.


Sent from a green pleasant land

[M_C]

Without going into full details, they tried to bring in random drug testing (using urine) at work

My question to them was:-

'On Monday I go to Amsterdam for a dirty couple of days with the wife, we get hammered on cannabis, we return on Wednesday. I drive to work on Friday & get roadside drug tested by the police (for whatever reason)' - at this point, HR interjected to say how very accurate the police roadside tests are... I continue.... '& I would pass that drug test. I arrive at work and have a random urine test, I would fail that... How does that work?' - Silence!

[ggotch]

they should test the goverment daily i reckon,theyll find worse than erb floating round their tiny little brains.