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    Hello.

    It is obvious to me that there are an opinion war going on about the necessity of flushing/leeching that I assume have been going on for a long time.
    One thought that just popped into my mind is if this dispute about whether flushing makes sense and is necessary could in part be caused by the differences of growing and flushing cannabis compared to other kinds of crops, I mean maybe it is very necessary for cannabis growers(amongst other type of growers) to flush while there are crops that doesn't require the grower to give a damn about whether he/she flushes or not, and the conflict in opinion comes from these two groups interact and mix.

    In any case, after having created a thread here about it I was convinced that I should be flushing. I have seen many members on this forum who have accumulated such a number of badges or awards that I feel that if such a member, or two or more of them says it is necessary to flush I should simply trust that they know what they are talking about.

    But the ones arguing against flushing still are telling the truth in some sense, even if it isn't in a way that could justify not flushing the plant really could have put some micro-nutrients to good use. But when I look at different hydro store sites for flushing agents all the product descriptions just talk about the function of dissolving salts and/or enabling the transportation of certain elements within the plant and no product that I have found have been advertised as also supplying the micro-nutrients that as far as I know really should be supplied to the plant in an ideal world scenario.

    Is it impossible to both flush the plant while supplying a low number of these particular micro-nutrients?
    I really can't recall what specific minerals or compounds that I have been reading about is supposedly really crucial for the plant to have access to during the final 1-2 weeks while it can do without added N-P-K etc.

    Do you know of what the micro-nutrients that I talk about actually are?
    Next time I find and read such text I will take notes...

    Are there any product with micro-nutrients that you wouldn't object to being supplied to the plant right up until harvest?

    Perhaps there are no flushing agent which both cleans the plant from some nutrients while supplying others, perhaps there are some product with these important final flowering stage micro-nutrients yet lacks the others nutrients which we want to get rid of, and perhaps you could use a flushing agent together with such a product.

    Does any one know of any products that would fit into this application area that I have been describing?

    I know that there are many who does not use any flushing agent at all and simply uses plain water, but I am really interested in these flushing agents because they sound like a really good idea, I will for sure perform test my self but as I can only grow a single plant at a time it will be years before I have been able to conduct my own tests.

    Wouldn't it be a point in flushing as short of a time as possible leading up to the harvest assuming that the time flushed is sufficient to get rid of whatever it is that you want to get rid of?
    What if flushing agents could cut down on the time required to flush?
    Or have I misunderstood something about the purpose of flushing cannabis plants?

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    I have questioned flushing in the past DDG but after not flushing and flushing the smoke does seem cleaner for whatever reason.

    I have never used a flushing but would consider it as I have tested the coco slurry after a week long flush and it still has plenty /salts/nutrients in it.
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    Short answer, add. MOlasis while flushing to aid the soil help the plant in the last 2 weeks. Kinda like the atkins diet. Lol.

    Chemicals need to be flushed for petter flavour.
    Organics are not chemicals.
    Or this is my 2 cents anyway.


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    Your NPK are mobile in a plant anyway so the plant will still receive these nutrients from other parts of the plants where it’s needed while flushing.
    Magnesium too which helps to transport these are mobile within the plant, then a few other micro nutrients I’m unsure which ones.

    All the rest are immobile and the plants will starve of these when the nutrients are cut from the root system.( well in hydro anyway almost immediately as its inert, in soil the micro nutrients are all prob still there as the plant doesn’t use huge amounts of these anyway.
    I have a bottle of ripen somewhere in the house, I got it given but I’ve never used it, I would prefer water imho the NPK seems too high and it’s quite the opposite of what I’m trying to do.
    I hope my warped mind of the plant world helps!

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    Mate just build a raised bed like me and a proper soil and you’ll never need to flush, in fact you’ll never need a run off I use water only so forget all the rubbish and save the planet with me by closing the loop brother
    Nothing in my garden is waisted.

    On a side note I do run a Wilma that I flush the fuck out of
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDG View Post
    Is it impossible to both flush the plant while supplying a low number of these particular micro-nutrients?...

    Are there any product with micro-nutrients that you wouldn't object to being supplied to the plant right up until harvest?...

    Does any one know of any products that would fit into this application area that I have been describing?
    Short answer, "no".

    Long, speculative answer, how about "trace elements"?

    What you described there, is kinda like low cal oral rehydration fluids for us, humans. By drinking that, we get the electrolytes that lower the risks of cramps, replaces salts lost in the sweat, we get rehydrated, and no macronutrient that is sugar, which we would otherwise use as fuel.

    So for plants, the closest "translation" I can think of is "trace elements" like molybdenum, copper, whatever other mineral that is water soluble and does not contribute to the N-P-K macros. In the UK a company called Chempak makes 500 gram cartons of the stuff.

    There are aquarium mixtures of a similar kind but they are for pet fish, and I have no idea if that is safe for humans.

    And I have no knowledge about salt build up, or what concentration to use.

    The use of Trace Elements is just an idea.
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