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    Default swittched from CFL/LED to HPS holy hell she is hot! thank god because winters coming

    Hey everyone so you've probably seen one of my posts in the past. I recently tried to do my first grow the strain was Gorilla glue. my seeds are feminised and Auto however the lighting that I tried to grow them under was not strong enough and killed my plants I was using 2x 45w LED panels and 1x 130w CFL and there was no heat being generated and I just feel like the babies got too cold and died on me that or I was over/under feeding and watering them. at about a week after they had broken above the coco the stems bent and looked very weak and brittle can anyone please explain what would of caused this out of curiosity? the fan was also blowing directly on the plants and I feel like the pressure from the fan probably caused a bit of disturbance in the growth process so now I have my oscillating fan pointing away from the plants/at the light which in turn is circulating the air in the grow tent until they reach 4 -6 weeks old and then I will put the fan in front of the plants so that they have some resistance training or what ever the lingo is.
    current grow (Attempt number 2)
    so I am a coco coir grower I have used that since day 1 but may experiment with Soil later on especially with my Photo Strains as I will not be able to water as frequently but I do realise that I can add perlite or a wetting agent too the coco but I am not too sure about the ratios I did read somewhere it's 70% coco and 30% perlite but I don't want to risk wrong measurements.
    so last week I ripped both of my dead seedlings out of the coco and threw them in the bin. I popped open 2 more healthy looking seeds and then I buffered the coco with Canna A+B about 3 days prior to putting the freshly germinated seeds in to the medium I used a mild Canna A+B solution and it was about half a litre that I mixed thru each smart pot saturating it all so at least these new seedlings will have something in the coco when they get hungry also yesterday my Canna Rizotonic 250ml bottle arrived so I have saturated the surface of the growing medium and I also poured 250ml of the mixture around each seedling and made sure it went deep into the coco so that they can feed on it as soon as they are ready. aswel as all my nutrients etc arriving I also got my 400W HPS/MH Lighting kit yesterday so the new girls are under some serious light/heat I have the light at 41cm/16" above the top of my girls, I have decided to name these two Mick and Mallory because I know they're going to be some mean ass monsters!
    if anyone has any input or advice or you have noticed anything I am doing wrong please feel free to give me feedback it's why I am here I don't want to keep wasting expensive seeds...


    CFL Setup it also had 2x LED panels on each side of it. CFL.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Growqueen420 View Post
    Hey everyone so you've probably seen one of my posts in the past. I recently tried to do my first grow the strain was Gorilla glue. my seeds are feminised and Auto however the lighting that I tried to grow them under was not strong enough and killed my plants I was using 2x 45w LED panels and 1x 130w CFL and there was no heat being generated and I just feel like the babies got too cold and died on me that or I was over/under feeding and watering them. at about a week after they had broken above the coco the stems bent and looked very weak and brittle can anyone please explain what would of caused this out of curiosity? the fan was also blowing directly on the plants and I feel like the pressure from the fan probably caused a bit of disturbance in the growth process so now I have my oscillating fan pointing away from the plants/at the light which in turn is circulating the air in the grow tent until they reach 4 -6 weeks old and then I will put the fan in front of the plants so that they have some resistance training or what ever the lingo is.
    current grow (Attempt number 2)
    so I am a coco coir grower I have used that since day 1 but may experiment with Soil later on especially with my Photo Strains as I will not be able to water as frequently but I do realise that I can add perlite or a wetting agent too the coco but I am not too sure about the ratios I did read somewhere it's 70% coco and 30% perlite but I don't want to risk wrong measurements.
    so last week I ripped both of my dead seedlings out of the coco and threw them in the bin. I popped open 2 more healthy looking seeds and then I buffered the coco with Canna A+B about 3 days prior to putting the freshly germinated seeds in to the medium I used a mild Canna A+B solution and it was about half a litre that I mixed thru each smart pot saturating it all so at least these new seedlings will have something in the coco when they get hungry also yesterday my Canna Rizotonic 250ml bottle arrived so I have saturated the surface of the growing medium and I also poured 250ml of the mixture around each seedling and made sure it went deep into the coco so that they can feed on it as soon as they are ready. aswel as all my nutrients etc arriving I also got my 400W HPS/MH Lighting kit yesterday so the new girls are under some serious light/heat I have the light at 41cm/16" above the top of my girls, I have decided to name these two Mick and Mallory because I know they're going to be some mean ass monsters!
    if anyone has any input or advice or you have noticed anything I am doing wrong please feel free to give me feedback it's why I am here I don't want to keep wasting expensive seeds...


    CFL Setup it also had 2x LED panels on each side of it. CFL.jpg
    HPS setup HPS.jpg HPS2.jpg
    Not 100% for germing but id say 16" is too close for the light? Mine are around 4 week under a 250MH and thats at 23". Better to start high and lower it than burn/bleach your ladies 👍

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    Cant read scripts like tha me. I need sum paragraphs an break ups lol. I read 1st 3 joined lines then i go zzzzzzzz

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    Quote Originally Posted by WF420 View Post
    Not 100% for germing but id say 16" is too close for the light? Mine are around 4 week under a 250MH and thats at 23". Better to start high and lower it than burn/bleach your ladies 👍

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    4wk old plant 2ft away from a 250mh is too far away mate. I do mine from seed and never more than 8-10 inches away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uparoundthebend View Post
    4wk old plant 2ft away from a 250mh is too far away mate. I do mine from seed and never more than 8-10 inches away.

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    Cheers for the advice mate but im bein mentored and been told to have it at that height. Plants seem happy at that distance too 👍

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    Put a pic on of your plant mate. Just curious. If you're 2ft from the top, obviously the lower branches are even farther. Being 3ft even 4ft plus away from a 250mh will cause stretch in my opinion. Ive just vegged first 3wks under 250mh then 2 more wks under 400mh then flipped em last night (5wk veg from seed), they look fine, im well chuffed with em.
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    Cheers for the advice mate but im bein mentored and been told to have it at that height. Plants seem happy at that distance too 👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by uparoundthebend View Post
    Put a pic on of your plant mate. Just curious. If you're 2ft from the top, obviously the lower branches are even farther. Being 3ft even 4ft plus away from a 250mh will cause stretch in my opinion. Ive just vegged first 3wks under 250mh then 2 more wks under 400mh then flipped em last night (5wk veg from seed), they look fine, im well chuffed with em.

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    There ya go mate, just over a month 👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by WF420 View Post
    There ya go mate, just over a month 👍

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    I'll put pic of mine up in a bit, just at mates watching football then going home watering em. Mine are just over 5wks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uparoundthebend View Post
    I'll put pic of mine up in a bit, just at mates watching football then going home watering em. Mine are just over 5wks.

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    No worries mate, have struggled with temps from day 1 so theyre a bit stunted like

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    Quote Originally Posted by WF420 View Post
    No worries mate, have struggled with temps from day 1 so theyre a bit stunted like

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    Mine were vegged in my towel cupboard on my landing, just a light and a fan blowing air around, often touched 30c but no detriment to the plants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WF420 View Post
    There ya go mate, just over a month 👍

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    In tent under 400mh, 1st wk of flower. Youngest plant front left popped through on friday 6 april...5wks 2 days old.
    Plant on its own is the youngest one, notice the overhead pic, its growing 3 ways at every node.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uparoundthebend View Post
    In tent under 400mh, 1st wk of flower. Youngest plant front left popped through on friday 6 april...5wks 2 days old.
    Plant on its own is the youngest one, notice the overhead pic, its growing 3 ways at every node.

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    Looks mad that 3 way node, remember your post on it come t think of it 🤔 lookin well they are

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    Quote Originally Posted by uparoundthebend View Post
    4wk old plant 2ft away from a 250mh is too far away mate. I do mine from seed and never more than 8-10 inches away.

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    i wudnt put a 250w mh bulb anywer near that close at seedling / young stage. your just askin for stuntin an bleaching so early on, hence why i have advised to have it higher till they are bigger. same way i have dun it since day i can remember an proofs in puddin through out me diarys

    problem is temps have been issue, so media not dryin as fast as you would like, if you sittin at 30degree in a cupboard then happys days they gona thrive an dry out faster hence faster feed an oxy to roots sooner.

    comparing plants at set weeks is pointless, everyone has different growing environments to work with

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    Forgot to say that for first week theyre under domes/propagators so thatll probably dilute the light a bit, but 2nd week theyre out then under 250mh, done last 3 grows like that, works fine.
    I point my circ fan up at the bulb not the plants for first couple of weeks to blow the hot air away until the stem gets woody to help keep temp reasonable.
    These are my domes, like a pot noodle but more chinesey, just rip the cardboard off and wash em out and they make perfect individual propagators.

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    just water will be fine for seedlings and not a lot of that either for the first week or two.
    I use a 250 cfl for the start as you can have it close to them without burning them and if your worried about them getting too cold keep them on 24/7 until there a bit stronger to take the MH

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    If you are worries there was no heat being generated maybe you should add anoth light?

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