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    im not sure why but have several different strains and all of them have produced tiny little popcorn buds all over and thats it no big top colas at all
    anyone know how this may have happened

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    Quote Originally Posted by de3ebeatz View Post
    im not sure why but have several different strains and all of them have produced tiny little popcorn buds all over and thats it no big top colas at all
    anyone know how this may have happened
    Container too small?

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    Quote Originally Posted by de3ebeatz View Post
    im not sure why but have several different strains and all of them have produced tiny little popcorn buds all over and thats it no big top colas at all
    anyone know how this may have happened
    You need to give some info and some pics mate ,

    What strains are they ?
    Autos / photos ?
    soil / hydro / coco ?
    What nutrients?
    Plants age from seed ?
    how far into 12/12 or flower are you ?
    what lights?
    how far are they ?
    Pot size ?
    What feeding schedule are u using?


    without that none can help !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by de3ebeatz View Post
    they are big buddha blue cheese autos (feminized of course)

    this one if you zoom in im not sure if these are hermaphrodite traits but it looks similar to the ones that were as it looks a lot like the sacs but with hairs coming out of it which i know is a possible sign of hermaphrodite
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    these are my 2 remaining blue cheese autos their growth was slower than the rest because i topped them (where as i did not top the others that turned hermaphrodite) as a result of the topping i have much much more bud growth areas but like the others it was stinking of blue cheese that distinctive smell but all of a sudden they have started to smell like lemon which is strange because it like the others did and then they turned hermaphrodite so i am wondering if when a plant suddenly switches to lemon smell randomly is it a sign of sever stress
    also light schedules arent an issue here as they are autoflowers

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    my guess it's your light source that's the problem,





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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsterEnergy View Post
    my guess it's your light source that's the problem,

    Not sure why Monster has these photos but I do not. Seeing them I gotta agree.

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    Definitely needs light

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsterEnergy View Post
    my guess it's your light source that's the problem,


    Cheers bro that is what I had feared. I bought a 600w led from Amazon and am worried it's not what it says it is because under a 600w led they should be flying up really
    Guess I'm gonna have to put this down to a very expensive loss

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    Quote Originally Posted by de3ebeatz View Post
    Cheers bro that is what I had feared. I bought a 600w led from Amazon and am worried it's not what it says it is because under a 600w led they should be flying up really
    Guess I'm gonna have to put this down to a very expensive loss
    Dude, how "big" is that pot? About 10 cm or 4 inches?

    If so, my money is on the pot being too small for higher yield.

    The "600w" LED might be what they want to have us believe that the lamp can replace. So my guess is that the wall draw of it might be around 150 - 250 watt just as a ball park figure. My point is that, it's probably not entirely a total loss.

    The plants look small but their colour is good and healthy. Keep it up
    Fight for your health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentina View Post
    my money is on the pot being too small for higher yield.
    the plant hasn't matured nor developed properly - that's simply a lighting problem
    a small pot means smaller formed plants not underdeveloped buds due to low levels of light

    i seen a 600w led on amazon that didn't even use 125w

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    Is it an Orange Strain by any chance? Like a Juicy Fruit, or Victory Weed, or California Orange? If it is, those buds will get dank as fuck over time. It's just the way some plants grow no cola's, just buds, but I would say Light would help also. JMO
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    It's a small statured plant, for sure, but this is early flower....it's got weeks to go. Surely it's too early to tell, innit?

    How long has it been flowering for, man?

    (And you need more light ;-) )
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    Quote Originally Posted by de3ebeatz View Post
    Cheers bro that is what I had feared. I bought a 600w led from Amazon and am worried it's not what it says it is because under a 600w led they should be flying up really
    Guess I'm gonna have to put this down to a very expensive loss
    Get you one of these off the bay or amazon. Around 10 bucks. You have to be careful what you buy, it always best to talk with the seller before making a purchase. I bought a 1,000W Led once, only pull 70 Watts.
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    Like hotshot said. Many strains do not produce colas. Just buds. I have a strain that only produces medium sized rock hard buds. No colas and nothing obese. Still the final weight is always shockingly high due to the bud density.

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    thats for all the input guys, they are blue cheese autos (big buddha) and should no way be that small the pots look small in the pics but of a descent enough size for autos, ive seen autos in solo cups get bigger than mine, and one of them i chopped down because it finished budding and all hairs were turning brown/orange. and it was still just as small, i also have a photo period that has turned out the same nothing but popcorn buds,

    so ive gone with a lighting issue, ive replaced the 600w led with a 600w hps, which is gonna kill my electricity bill a little more than an led but if it saves some of my plants then its worth it lol,
    ive also set up a vegging area now with the led so it doesnt go completely to waste

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    Quote Originally Posted by de3ebeatz View Post
    thats for all the input guys, they are blue cheese autos (big buddha) and should no way be that small the pots look small in the pics but of a descent enough size for autos, ive seen autos in solo cups get bigger than mine, and one of them i chopped down because it finished budding and all hairs were turning brown/orange. and it was still just as small, i also have a photo period that has turned out the same nothing but popcorn buds,

    so ive gone with a lighting issue, ive replaced the 600w led with a 600w hps, which is gonna kill my electricity bill a little more than an led but if it saves some of my plants then its worth it lol,
    ive also set up a vegging area now with the led so it doesnt go completely to waste
    Only other thing I can think, is it could have been a mix up at the seed shop. Believe me it happens some times.

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    Quick update. I have switched my 600w led for a 600w hps and so far it is looking promising I'm seeing a lot of increased activity and my next batch (royal cookies) are already 3 times bigger than the blue cheese and my blueberry though a bit to far gone to fully save has some buds vastly increasing in size

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnigma View Post
    You need to give some info and some pics mate ,

    What strains are they ?
    Autos / photos ?
    soil / hydro / coco ?
    What nutrients?
    Plants age from seed ?
    how far into 12/12 or flower are you ?
    what lights?
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    What feeding schedule are u using?


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    Yes, Many factors will influence the buds not just light.
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