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    I mentioned this one a few pages back. If it wasnít for the price this would be my go to flowering additive in soil. The science behind this one suggests itís very good. But Iím yet to try it.
    Thanks blue , Iíll probably give it a trial. ✌️


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    Hello Blue

    I have recently changed from coco to RDWC. The transition has so far, been a little bumpy to say the least. Initially I had decided to run a sterile unit but have now had a change of plan and run Hydroguard. I have a big bottle of "Microbe Life Photosynthesis Plus" left over which I really liked in coco and was convinced I could see a difference in the plants within 48 hours of using this stuff.

    Do you think this would work in hydro? it says ok on the bottle. I just don't want a gungy system. My plan is to add it to the system 2-3 days before a change out. What you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by toblue View Post
    Hello Blue

    I have recently changed from coco to RDWC. The transition has so far, been a little bumpy to say the least. Initially I had decided to run a sterile unit but have now had a change of plan and run Hydroguard. I have a big bottle of "Microbe Life Photosynthesis Plus" left over which I really liked in coco and was convinced I could see a difference in the plants within 48 hours of using this stuff.

    Do you think this would work in hydro? it says ok on the bottle. I just don't want a gungy system. My plan is to add it to the system 2-3 days before a change out. What you think?
    Hello toblue

    The plan sounds ok, if it wasn’t a microbe additive I’d suggest something like run clean from Dutch pro to run alongside this as it’s plant friendly and keeps the system clear. However it’s no good matched with a microbe product unfortunately.

    I can only suggest you give the microbe life a try and see how it goes. But report back and let us know as it’s always been my understanding microbes, synthetics and phosphoric acids ie ph adjustment don’t work very well together, not quite like they do in soil.

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    Is this what you mean mate.
    Is it just one bottle for grow n bloom?


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    Quote Originally Posted by BB View Post
    Is this what you mean mate.
    Is it just one bottle for grow n bloom?


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    That’s the one mate, yes the one bottle covers both veg and flower. Start at 1ml per litre see how you get on. I doubt you’ll ever have to exceed 4ml per litre

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue View Post
    Thatís the one mate, yes the one bottle covers both veg and flower. Start at 1ml per litre see how you get on. I doubt youíll ever have to exceed 4ml per litre
    Hmmmmm, budda tree is the shit aswell! Great nuits, might get my self a bottle of this for my next grow



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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue View Post
    Thatís the one mate, yes the one bottle covers both veg and flower. Start at 1ml per litre see how you get on. I doubt youíll ever have to exceed 4ml per litre
    Donít know if I like the idea of not controlling grow n bloom individually 🤔


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    Quote Originally Posted by BB View Post
    Donít know if I like the idea of not controlling grow n bloom individually 🤔


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    Itís organic mate, the microbes will do that shit for you the plant will take what it needs. I think itís a great idea tbf. When a plant grow naturally out doors, the season doesnít dictate what nuits it gets

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    Iv ordered both Buddha and OT to compare.
    Next auto run will be comparison grow


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    Quote Originally Posted by BB View Post
    Iv ordered both Buddha and OT to compare.
    Next auto run will be comparison grow


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    Sweeeeet, I might hold off then see how you do with it lol. I really wanna go living soil on my next one though. Just have wait until after Christmas so I can buy everything I need for it. Might never need bottled nuits again once Iíve got my living soil lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by BB View Post
    Don’t know if I like the idea of not controlling grow n bloom individually 🤔


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    Give it a go and lets us know your thoughts mate. I look forward to the comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue View Post
    Epsom and calmag products are best uptaken through the stomata on the leafs. Its a much faster method of getting the traces into the plant. Epsom salts are as the name would suggest salts and heavy salts are best left out of the rootzone if possible.

    Stick to the folier spraying. Iíd only use it via feed as a last resort to correct a deficiency.
    Ok thanks il avoid using in flower if i can.

    Iv ordered some of this raw omina. When can i start using it and when do you stop using? I cant seem to find that online

    Thanks for taking the time to wb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grower1988 View Post
    Ok thanks il avoid using in flower if i can.

    Iv ordered some of this raw omina. When can i start using it and when do you stop using? I cant seem to find that online

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    Use it at 1/8 tsp per 4 litres of water. If theres seedlings start with it around week 2, for clones you can start from day 1.

    One or two doses per week will be ample

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue View Post
    Use it at 1/8 tsp per 4 litres of water. If theres seedlings start with it around week 2, for clones you can start from day 1.

    One or two doses per week will be ample
    Cheers for ya help blue cant wait to see the diffrence with it. Im glad you say use once twice a week i was gonna use in every feed lol.

    Gonna use now along side my new mix

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    Can i use raw omina at a lower dose in everyday feed. As il have a drip system would be easier if i could add it in the res with my nutes.

    Failing that i could just add some when the res is low 🤔

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    Quote Originally Posted by grower1988 View Post
    Can i use raw omina at a lower dose in everyday feed. As il have a drip system would be easier if i could add it in the res with my nutes.

    Failing that i could just add some when the res is low 樂

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    You can use it everyday but you may need to tailor your base nutrients to suit or like you say lower the dosage further. The omina is nitrogen derived so it does raise the Ec slightly, not much at 1/8 tsp as it’s low dose but it’s enough to cause problems if you happen to be using excessive base nutrients.

    You'll be pleased to know the omina will work well with your system. Preventing any hard water limescale build up in your res and drippers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue View Post
    You can use it everyday but you may need to tailor your base nutrients to suit or like you say lower the dosage further. The omina is nitrogen derived so it does raise the Ec slightly, not much at 1/8 tsp as itís low dose but itís enough to cause problems if you happen to be using excessive base nutrients.

    You'll be pleased to know the omina will work well with your system. Preventing any hard water limescale build up in your res and drippers
    Ok thanks for that. Thats helped alot!
    Think il stick with what you recommend and just use once a week for now.

    My nutes are already tailer made to my water so wouldn't want to lower my bass to much if i can help it.
    Failing that il give it a try in every feed and make sure the omina dont raise the ec by more then 0.1 as a start. Cheers mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue View Post
    Hello toblue

    The plan sounds ok, if it wasn’t a microbe additive I’d suggest something like run clean from Dutch pro to run alongside this as it’s plant friendly and keeps the system clear. However it’s no good matched with a microbe product unfortunately.

    I can only suggest you give the microbe life a try and see how it goes. But report back and let us know as it’s always been my understanding microbes, synthetics and phosphoric acids ie ph adjustment don’t work very well together, not quite like they do in soil.

    Many thanks Blue
    I will let you know how it pans out. I mainly go easy on the silicon when I first make up my solution so I can PH up with it at the end if I am a bit to heavy handed with the PH down. I am considering using potassium bicarbonate as an alternative slightly more natural PH down but not sure how stable it would be, do you have any experience using this? I'm afraid I can't do anything about the synthetic nutes. At my present skill level organic RDWC is not within my ability.

    Just another question if I could. I am currently running Growells Shogun Hydro range which from memory you don't rate. Is there any particular reason?
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    [QUOTE=toblue;1070869928 I am considering using potassium bicarbonate as an alternative slightly more natural PH down but not sure how stable it would be, do you have any experience using this? [/QUOTE]

    Sorry Blue meant to be Citric Acid getting my up and down mixed up

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    Quote Originally Posted by toblue View Post
    Many thanks Blue
    I will let you know how it pans out. I mainly go easy on the silicon when I first make up my solution so I can PH up with it at the end if I am a bit to heavy handed with the PH down. I am considering using potassium bicarbonate as an alternative slightly more natural PH down but not sure how stable it would be, do you have any experience using this? I'm afraid I can't do anything about the synthetic nutes. At my present skill level organic RDWC is not within my ability.

    Just another question if I could. I am currently running Growells Shogun Hydro range which from memory you don't rate. Is there any particular reason?
    Quote Originally Posted by toblue View Post
    Sorry Blue meant to be Citric Acid getting my up and down mixed up
    Ive no experience using citric acid in hydro, sorry.. But I’d imagine you’d need a hell of a lot of it. It don’t adjust quite like phosphoric acid.

    Growell nutes, yes there’s a reason I don’t rate them. It’s not due to the nutes themselves being no good more an issue with how they’ve been developed. I shall drop you a pm

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