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    Default I.D. these little black bugs?

    I've recently had mites and fungus gnats, I think I'm just about getting it under control.
    But I've just noticed a third bug, I keep seeing them crawl across the tent floor, towards the front door...
    Initially thought they were fungus gnats that couldn't fly, but upon closer inspection, they seem to be something different, and I can't see them on any 'growing pests' articles.
    They're about the size of half of a small ant.
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    look like a beetle of some kind ,it ain't thrip and don't look like a spidermite,also as you say they on the floor and non flying I'd say a juvenile beetle of some kind ..tbh I've no idea lol sorry


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    get yer ma to call 999 .....
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    Root aphid that looks like mate...you got neem oil?



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    You have to drench your medium with some imidacloprid diluted mate, google it. I haven't treated these before, so not sure of the exact procedure, but they're are root aphids I think, and imidacloprid seems the be the best option in killing them and any other soil dwelling parasites

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    Pity you couldn't get a closer pic but in my opinion it looks a lot like a root aphid or maybe baby vine weevil, i had these last grow "vine weevils" and neem oil helped get rid though i had to treat the medium with nematodes, good luck brother, G'.
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    Default I.D. these little black bugs?

    This is a root aphid



    They look a little like vine weevils mate, but vine weevils are much bigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lipnobody View Post
    get yer ma to call 999 .....


    She'd probably end up calling her voicemail instead...


    Cheers for the advice, yeah my camera seems to flid out when I try to take a real close up.
    Think you must be right about them being Aphids.

    I've been using neem oil as suggested above, as part of IPM plan, and I started drenching the soil with Bti as well, which seems to be really fucking with fungus gnats, they fly out of the soil, and land randomly on the tent walls to die.
    Some of them are flying straight up onto the hot light bulb, and leaving a gross 'burnt fly' smell that's a bit like burnt milk.

    Looking into imidacloprid now, cheers Mack.
    Got the feeling I'm ultimately gonna finish this grow, chuck all the coco away, clean the tent, and just start fresh...

    Thanks as always !

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    Yer mate gonna need a good bleaching after that, make sure you get everywhere, maybe even a bug bomb to make sure everything is dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macky View Post
    Yer mate gonna need a good bleaching after that, make sure you get everywhere, maybe even a bug bomb to make sure everything is dead
    Boom, you just reminded me I've got some mini fortefogs

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBalls View Post
    Boom, you just reminded me I've got some mini fortefogs

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macky View Post
    This is a root aphid



    They look a little like vine weevils mate, but vine weevils are much bigger.
    Yeah your right there Macky brother i had the weevils and they are close on 1/2" in size mate, good call bro', G'.

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    Thanks,
    I actually think Root Aphids must be correct, based on what I've been reading...

    Even though they're only meant to affect larvae, I read an Amazon mosquito dunk review, the guy said that tiny gnats were flying out his pot and landing somewhere to die, and that they were "smaller than usual gnats so they must've recently been larvae" ... that's what I assumed was happening.

    But now I've read that root Aphids do just what I described in my previous post... they are smaller and stumpier than fungus gnats, and they eventually fly out of the pots, and zip straight up towards the light (which I've been smelling/seeing happen).

    So it makes sense, except I'm a bit confused as i'm pretty sure I still also had fungus gnats, and as of recently I have both (even though they're mistaken for each other... there's a 100 page thread discussing it on google, I won't try to start one here)

    Dunno how I got them, but i'll keep treating for gnats and now the bastard Aphids too... unfortunately imidacloprid is banned in UK so I'll be interested if anyone knows a good alternative... I've read about Pyrethrum and some other fungi based thing, as well as general aphid sprays etc on amazon.

    Annnyways..... cheers !

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    Damn man that's a bit shit. They can come from loads of places mate, might be in the medium from the grow shop. I bought thrips home before from the grow shop in a bag of plagron batmix, ruined my whole crop. In the end I just scrapped it and started again. Could be from walking the dog, and carrying something in, could be from pets if they get around the groom. Might be from your intake.

    This is why IPM is so important, prevention is better than cure.

    If the larvae are in the medium, I'd use Diatomaceous earth, a good layer of that on top of the medium will shred eggs and larvae.

    Along with some sticky traps hung up in the tent, and some place about an inch above the medium. That will catch the Gnats as the try to fly off.

    Get some neem oil too, always good to have on hand.

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    I agree with Macky on the neem oil it's a great all rounder and has helped me out a few times, helped get rid of thrips and vine weevil though i used it in conjunction with nematodes, nematodes is good for anything that has invaded your medium as it enters the bugs orifices and eats them from the inside out so to speak, all the best brother, G'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macky View Post
    You have to drench your medium with some imidacloprid diluted mate, google it. I haven't treated these before, so not sure of the exact procedure, but they're are root aphids I think, and imidacloprid seems the be the best option in killing them and any other soil dwelling parasites
    I would use this mate it’s a neonicotinoid!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by redisiel View Post
    I would use this mate it’s a neonicotinoid!!!!
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    I don't know man, is that supposed to be "wouldn't" mate? but iphone corrected you? I haven't used it before, never treated for root aphids so wouldn't know about its effects, ive just read it good stuff to use against root aphids. But didnt someone say it was banned? Which would lead me to think you wouldnt use it lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macky View Post
    . But didnt someone say it was banned? Which would lead me to think you wouldnt use it lol.
    Yeah that was me, it's a little harder than usual in growing forums to make sure ppl remember your previous posts

    So I've been using neem oil, diatomaceous earth, and bti as part of IPM
    The DE isnt so effective in my case, as I am using airpots so they're full of holes (and fungus gnats got past the tights barrier ) but it's killed a few crawling on the floor.
    The Bti seemed to kill most of the gnats, right as the Aphids took over.
    Neem oil didn't really stop anything but I think it must've made some difference overall.

    I use canna coco professional which is supposed to be good, but to be fair, like suggested above, I am thinking the Aphids must've come from it

    Anyways no worries , I will research alternative treatments, (probably a cheap general aphid killer first) and update with results here for any future readers...
    Cheers

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