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    Oh and just to point out, as I forget sometimes that we don't know what we look like, I am a white dude, but I observe politics n shit a lot, weed and politics are my main 2 talking points lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macky View Post
    Just for an example, a white kids in my city, last year, stabbed a kid, my kids knows, in the leg. The kid was found, got away with a slap on the wrist!!! The knife wound was three inches away from a major artery which would have killed him. But, it's ok, white boy, don't do it again!

    Black kid gets FOUND with a knife, expelled from school criminal record, community service, the balance isn't right! And until it is, we can't do random stop and searches, the anger will just be fuelled by it, but then again, maybe that's what they want.
    the courts was wrong not the police.
    stop and search can be used as a deterrent, police need to do something as knife crime is getting worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i spy View Post
    the courts was wrong not the police.
    stop and search can be used as a deterrent, police need to do something as knife crime is getting worse.
    So, if you were walking down the street one day, enjoying the sun, relaxing, bag of weed in your pocket doing nothing wrong at all, you would be ok if the police came up to you and said, " we are going to search you for weapons"? For no reason at all?

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    I'm with I Spy on this. We've tried the softly softly approach - it does not work!

    Stop & search & a minimum 5 year sentence for the possession of a knife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macky View Post
    So, if you were walking down the street one day, enjoying the sun, relaxing, bag of weed in your pocket doing nothing wrong at all, you would be ok if the police came up to you and said, " we are going to search you for weapons"? For no reason at all?
    i would not have a bag of weed or a knife in my pocket so i wouldnt have anything to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macky View Post
    So, if you were walking down the street one day, enjoying the sun, relaxing, bag of weed in your pocket doing nothing wrong at all, you would be ok if the police came up to you and said, " we are going to search you for weapons"? For no reason at all?
    You do realise that walking around with a bag of weed is also illegal? Or have you, in your own mind, legalised it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M_C View Post
    I'm with I Spy on this. We've tried the softly softly approach - it does not work!

    Stop & search & a minimum 5 year sentence for the possession of a knife.
    100% agree...something drastic has to be done...fuck personal space/liberty...people are dying because of these little pricks

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    i would not have a bag of weed or a knife in my pocket so i wouldnt have anything to worry about.
    Quote Originally Posted by M_C View Post
    You do realise that walking around with a bag of weed is also illegal? Or have you, in your own mind, legalised it?
    Don't know about Macky but I have...I go nowhere without my bag

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    The elephant in the room here is that it is (usually) black on black crime & the PC crowd don't know which way to turn because of this....

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    I just don't trust the establishment to do it fairly. Who do we put in charge of the limits of this? Who can be stopped and searched and why? Where do you draw the line. Law is never just as black an white as that.

    Do you think, if a rich white kid, from a good area of London, was found with a knife, he would held to the same rules as the guy from Peckham? I don't see this heading in a good direction at all. Its just the start of totalitarianism.

    I agree something has to be done about it, but stop and search will take away the rights of the average person. And we have already have had plenty of those removed over the last twenty years. Its a slippery slope this one which we have to tread carefully with, giving the police powers like this just never feels right to me lol. To be able to stop a person when they have done nothing wrong and be able to just search them.... nah man lol. Especially as I would have weed in my pocket lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macky View Post
    So, if you were walking down the street one day, enjoying the sun, relaxing, bag of weed in your pocket doing nothing wrong at all, you would be ok if the police came up to you and said, " we are going to search you for weapons"? For no reason at all?
    I would first stipulate that only 'weapons' would be searched for...and if none were found...end of

    Then I would leg it...I've outrun old bill many...many times TMI

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