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    Quote Originally Posted by Welshgrow View Post
    I’m in soil mate.
    Do you think about the same run off for soil though?

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    Soil ah out if my field to answer with confidence, i thought you don't pH in soil? And why are you using canna a and b if you're in soil?

    Blue , red, hotshot know far more with soil and more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Welshgrow View Post
    I’m in soil mate.
    Do you think about the same run off for soil though?

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    Only need a run off with salt based nutes, if your organic then no.need for anymore.than 5% IMO.

    So. If its canna flores then its salt based and needs run off every time, the bio-flores (bio range) is the organic version I think after a quick. Google.

    Check this with Blue mate hes the nutes man lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaz View Post
    Only need a run off with salt based nutes, if your organic then no.need for anymore.than 5% IMO.

    So. If its canna flores then its salt based and needs run off every time, the bio-flores (bio range) is the organic version I think after a quick. Google.

    Check this with Blue mate hes the nutes man lol
    Yea mate using canna vega and Flores so I don’t think they’re organic.
    Is the organic nutes when you don’t need to flush due to salt build up?
    If so that sounds like a bit of an easier route to take.

    Cheers thc!! Cracking place help!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Welshgrow View Post
    Yea mate using canna vega and Flores so I don’t think they’re organic.
    Is the organic nutes when you don’t need to flush due to salt build up?
    If so that sounds like a bit of an easier route to take.

    Cheers thc!! Cracking place help!


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    I hate the term flush as it is used as an interchangeable term for two different things IMO.

    A flush can be a large amount of water (normally 3 x the pot) given to the soil to "flush" out problems and reset the medium.

    Then there is the final weeks of giving only water amd basically getting the plant to eat itself. Which is also referred to as a flush.

    In the first instance, even in organics, mistakes happens and occasionally the soil may need a reset but IMO it washes out much of the good stuff at the same time and should be used as a last resort.

    In the second instance I am personally undecided and many say no need and others say you should and Im yet find any clear answers. Id recommend finding a grower here that does a similar thing to you, similar set ups ect and has proven results and just do what they do mate.

    Then theres is the run off and Id be listening to the coco and salt based guys about run offs mate as Im purely organics and know fuck all about that let alone salt based stuff

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    On a final note dont assume organics is less hassle mate coz honestly its a head fuck lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaz View Post

    Edit....
    On a final note dont assume organics is less hassle mate coz honestly its a head fuck lol
    Haha fair enough I’ll leave it there then mate!!

    On another note and probably a dumb question I notice a lot of people saying you can use washing up liquid as a wetting agent is there any in particular or could I use a little drop of fairy liquid??




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    Quote Originally Posted by Welshgrow View Post
    Haha fair enough I’ll leave it there then mate!!

    On another note and probably a dumb question I notice a lot of people saying you can use washing up liquid as a wetting agent is there any in particular or could I use a little drop of fairy liquid??




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    Soap nuts mate is your best bet mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Welshgrow View Post
    Thanks for all the help lads!!

    Gonna feed them tonight so should I try say 2.5ltrs
    With 1ml per litre grow and 2ml per litre bloom? Is 2.5litres enough water for a 20l pot?

    I know Canna say that when using boost the plants tolerance to nutes can be higher as it’s a metaboliser, so do you think that this might be causing them to need more?
    you want slight runoff in soil, definitely don't want/need 20% unless ur in coco or using salt based fertilizers

    id just keep adding water until i get runoff at the bottom but because you have underwatered it'll probably just run straight through,
    ud probably easily water 8lt since the soil hasn't been watered to saturation yet but definitely gonna need more than 2.5lts

    1ml grow mixed with 1.5ml bloom into each liter of water should be fine at this stage,

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    Default Help with these troublesome ladies!!

    Just watered them now with 3 litres each containing
    1ml grow
    1.5ml bloom
    2ml rhizo all over litre.

    I watered as slowly as I could giving them all 500ml each before staring again at the beginning so they had a few minutes to let the water settle before another 500ml came through.
    I didn’t get as much run off this time but did have a little.
    I’ve ordered the bio wetter yesterday so when that comes I’ll put a good few litres through them until I’m happy that they’re saturated through out.

    Thanks for all the help and suggestions it helps no end!!

    Edit.
    Sorry monster just seen your message guess I’m about 5 litres short then haha!!
    I’ll give them a good drenching the day after next though and hopefully that’ll make it easier from here on out.
    Thanks again for the help mate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsterEnergy View Post
    you want slight runoff in soil, definitely don't want/need 20% unless ur in coco or using salt based fertilizers

    id just keep adding water until i get runoff at the bottom but because you have underwatered it'll probably just run straight through,
    ud probably easily water 8lt since the soil hasn't been watered to saturation yet but definitely gonna need more than 2.5lts

    1ml grow mixed with 1.5ml bloom into each liter of water should be fine at this stage,
    The soap nuts would help here wouldn't they Monster mate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaz View Post
    The soap nuts would help here wouldn't they Monster mate?
    What’s a soap nut mate?


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