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    Been watching the QB grows with interest for a long time now. One thing i have noticed in some how leafy the buds can become. Now this is just a theory of mine but maybe if they had not been so close to canopy the tightness of the leave mass in the bud would have been less. Guess the only way to find this out is get one of the boards myself and grow a clone that have done many times for a comparison.

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    What cheap PAR meter are you using? I was led to believe that a cheap PAR meter does not exist.

    I don't have any QB's but I have a decent PAR meter. I always aim for 800 in flower.

    As a general guideline 1000 would be max without added co2 and 1500 would be max with co2

    The thing to keep in mind is that with a high PAR you need to have all envoirmental and grow parameters fine tuned. 800 is less risky than 1000. More light = faster growth = drinking faster = problems if things are not perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbag View Post
    Been watching the QB grows with interest for a long time now. One thing i have noticed in some how leafy the buds can become. Now this is just a theory of mine but maybe if they had not been so close to canopy the tightness of the leave mass in the bud would have been less. Guess the only way to find this out is get one of the boards myself and grow a clone that have done many times for a comparison.
    I've just refurbed my groom in an effort to get some more height, among other things.
    I now have a full 1.8 meter floor to ceiling which will give me a the ability to start with the lights on the ceiling. Most of my plants under any LED that I've tested look like footballs, real tight and bushy, I'm going to try and encourage them to stretch from an early age to try and mimic a HPS/MH veg period. Then see where we are from there.

    One thing I've learnt with LEDs is that the stems are similar if not bigger in thickness compared to HPS. But all my LED plants seem to be slightly weaker and break and bend more easily than HPS or MH in vegging.

    It will be interesting to see how a stretch LED stem copes with LST. I've only done autos under LED mind you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CityDweller View Post
    What cheap PAR meter are you using? I was led to believe that a cheap PAR meter does not exist.

    I don't have any QB's but I have a decent PAR meter. I always aim for 800 in flower.

    As a general guideline 1000 would be max without added co2 and 1500 would be max with co2

    The thing to keep in mind is that with a high PAR you need to have all envoirmental and grow parameters fine tuned. 800 is less risky than 1000. More light = faster growth = drinking faster = problems if things are not perfect.

    Cheers
    How much was your par meter if you don't mind me asking, it would be handy to have I may invest in one


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    Quote Originally Posted by kbag View Post
    Been watching the QB grows with interest for a long time now. One thing i have noticed in some how leafy the buds can become. Now this is just a theory of mine but maybe if they had not been so close to canopy the tightness of the leave mass in the bud would have been less. Guess the only way to find this out is get one of the boards myself and grow a clone that have done many times for a comparison.
    I just love my invisible sun panels and can't say I've noticed a lot more leaf and that might come down to strain or pheno type.
    The distance between panels and plants for me is all dependent on age/maturity or plant or size . My panels are pretty much as high as I get them and don't seem to have any issues


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickysticky View Post
    How much was your par meter if you don't mind me asking, it would be handy to have I may invest in one


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    About $500 US.
    Apogee mq-500

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman View Post
    My buds didn't really show signs of bleaching as such, well apart from a slight discolouration (Greyish)just before chop. I feel I probably degraded the THC quicker on the higher buds but as you you say, if it takes weeks sometimes, it may have been caused well before I even noticed anything.

    I think Benson has it right in so much as he waits for the plant to take hold and then increases as he see's the plant handling the intensity. Nothing beats the human eye (except a ridiculously expensive par reader lol) @Benson are you in a tent? I know millwall has no walls to his groom for reflection, so he has to get his boards closer than I do.

    What ever he's doing, it's working lol, his plant are sublime.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickysticky View Post
    How much was your par meter if you don't mind me asking, it would be handy to have I may invest in one


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    Just a cheap eBay one mate,think it was £15,might be shite for all I know but the plants seem to grow well when the meter reads 1000par,that was at 11in,I have now taken them up to 14in and this is the reading I’m getting. Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by CityDweller View Post
    About $500 US.
    Apogee mq-500

    I think mine might be shit then,lols.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benson123 View Post
    Just a cheap eBay one mate,think it was £15,might be shite for all I know but the plants seem to grow well when the meter reads 1000par,that was at 11in,I have now taken them up to 14in and this is the reading I’m getting. Click image for larger version. 

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    I believe you are looking at 90,000 LUX on a foot candles meter. This is not PAR and LUX is probably withing 30% accuracy on that piece. Sorry mate.

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