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    Hey everyone, i am new here and this will be my first indoor grow.

    I have 5 auto critical orange punch by dutch passion.

    grown in Plant magic soil with the oldtimers nutes and RO water. 3 are in 12litre root pouches whilst 2 are in 16litre root pouches under 600watt dual spectrum hps light schedule 20/4.

    I may have made a mistake in thinking because i am using organic soil and nutes that i do not need to adjust PH.

    The last feed was just 75% ro water 25% tap water left out to let any bad stuff evaporate with 1 spoon a liter of Proactive nano powder. This was recomended by a hydro shop and said it can be used as calmag.

    Anyway i have 2 plants one is 30 days old and the other is 24 days old. the younger one has brown spots on it and one leaf is dried and yellow. the older one is showing the early signs which the younger one showed about a week ago which is just wrinkly leaves and curled down. i have no idea what this could be as the other 3 plants seem fines to me.

    I may have spider mites as i have silk looking string around some of the plants.

    if you have any idea what this please comment! Thank you!

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    My first thought was spidermites, unlucky...2nd though was overfed, some of the leaves look dark & waxy

    Checkout here for the mites http://www.thctalk.com/cannabis-foru...y-spider-mites and good luck

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    Fantastic link AND, a great write up by gardro

    If you do have spider mites Keep Calm And Grow, then you are not infested right now but that can happen VERY quickly so make sure to take action asap if you think you do have them

    When I looked at a few of the pics, I thought..overwatered, but your pots look as dry as a bone..what is your watering regime bud?

    Also AND is right..signs of a little too much N but on the edge of tip burn.

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    Thank you for the link!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceCalibur View Post
    Fantastic link AND, a great write up by gardro

    If you do have spider mites Keep Calm And Grow, then you are not infested right now but that can happen VERY quickly so make sure to take action asap if you think you do have them

    When I looked at a few of the pics, I thought..overwatered, but your pots look as dry as a bone..what is your watering regime bud?

    Also AND is right..signs of a little too much N but on the edge of tip burn.

    I am planning on getting some stuff today to apply tomorrow lights off. Cant get Dr zymes so will need to use another product! Any recommendations?

    So far i have not got a fixed watering regime just water/feed whenever the soil is dry. Fed them first when they were 20days and 14days old (i have 2 that are younger) with 1.5ml of grow oldtimers nutes with 1 scoop of nano proactive this watering i used straight r/o water. Then i next watered with just 75% r/o and 25% tap water with just 1 scoop of the proactive nano powder this was when they were 27days and 21 days old. i am due to feed them again today when lights turn back on was going to feed with 1ml grow and 0.5ml bloom to the ones that are putting out a lot of pistils and just grow to the younger ones. is this a good idea or should i just water them with grow? but so far only fed them once!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keep Calm And Grow View Post
    I am planning on getting some stuff today to apply tomorrow lights off. Cant get Dr zymes so will need to use another product! Any recommendations?

    So far i have not got a fixed watering regime just water/feed whenever the soil is dry. Fed them first when they were 20days and 14days old (i have 2 that are younger) with 1.5ml of grow oldtimers nutes with 1 scoop of nano proactive this watering i used straight r/o water. Then i next watered with just 75% r/o and 25% tap water with just 1 scoop of the proactive nano powder this was when they were 27days and 21 days old. i am due to feed them again today when lights turn back on was going to feed with 1ml grow and 0.5ml bloom to the ones that are putting out a lot of pistils and just grow to the younger ones. is this a good idea or should i just water them with grow? but so far only fed them once!
    Hmm do you live in a soft or hard water area?

    Regarding the spider mites, can you get a shot of that silky web you were describing?..no problem if too tricky. From the pictures that gardro posted are you recognising similar signs on the leaves?

    I know you can control spider mites with Neem oil (won't eradicate them completely though as far as I know, just helps with numbers), here are two excellent links regarding recipes for that ;

    redisiel's IPM (intergrated pest management) - Clicky

    Gaz's Neem and soapnuts quick guide - Clicky

    You can look into predator mites which will kill spider mites - just google ' dragonfli spider mites ' to find options on those.

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    The two predators gardro wrote about in his guide can be purchased via a google

    Amblyseius andersonii and Phytoseiulus persimilis.

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    i tried to get a pic this morning but i could't il try and get one tomorrow! i think i may have them i saw one or two on a leaf i looked at today i am going to treat them for it with a foliar spray then put in some ways to control them!

    Thank you for the links

    should i feed again today with just 1ml grow to all of them even the ones that have pistils? or should i just water again with no nutes today?

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    Has anyone used C-No Insects 4C-Fields? saw this online and looks quite good i did have a look but cant find anything regarding its effectiveness!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keep Calm And Grow View Post
    i tried to get a pic this morning but i could't il try and get one tomorrow! i think i may have them i saw one or two on a leaf i looked at today i am going to treat them for it with a foliar spray then put in some ways to control them!

    Thank you for the links

    should i feed again today with just 1ml grow to all of them even the ones that have pistils? or should i just water again with no nutes today?
    You're welcome, I'd recommend watering with water only..no nutes, she is green enough and isn't asking for any food right now.

    The reason I asked you about your water (being hard or soft, which is easily checked btw, just check google for your area)..is because the Proactive nano powder is high in calcium and mag..and I see no reason as to why you would be using it ..especially if you're in a hard water area.

    Little tip, never give anything just because it might help or the label says you should be giving it..give nutrients when the plant shows you it's needing it, less is always more when it comes to nutrients and cannabis most times.

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    Just re-read and noticed you're using 75% ro water, so not a problem regarding /soft/hard as it's removing the minerals that cause hard water.

    Sorry bud I've never used C-No Insects 4C-Fields personally so can't help with that, perhaps someone here has and will pop in..good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceCalibur View Post
    Just re-read and noticed you're using 75% ro water, so not a problem regarding /soft/hard as it's removing the minerals that cause hard water.

    Sorry bud I've never used C-No Insects 4C-Fields personally so can't help with that, perhaps someone here has and will pop in..good luck!
    When using 75% ro an the rest tap water should i add the proactive nano powder or just use it as foliar feed when needed like you said only add things when the plant needs it.

    No worries might give it ago still!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keep Calm And Grow View Post
    When using 75% ro an the rest tap water should i add the proactive nano powder or just use it as foliar feed when needed like you said only add things when the plant needs it.

    No worries might give it ago still!
    Yeah I'd give it a break for a bit at the least..perhaps give a light dose after the next few 'water only waterings' at most.

    Ok well if you give it a go, let us know how it goes

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceCalibur View Post
    Yeah I'd give it a break for a bit at the least..perhaps give a light dose after the next few 'water only waterings' at most.

    Ok well if you give it a go, let us know how it goes
    Sweet, thanks for the info!

    i will let you know how well it works will buy some soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keep Calm And Grow View Post
    Hey everyone, i am new here and this will be my first indoor grow.

    I have 5 auto critical orange punch by dutch passion.

    grown in Plant magic soil with the oldtimers nutes and RO water. 3 are in 12litre root pouches whilst 2 are in 16litre root pouches under 600watt dual spectrum hps light schedule 20/4.

    I may have made a mistake in thinking because i am using organic soil and nutes that i do not need to adjust PH.

    The last feed was just 75% ro water 25% tap water left out to let any bad stuff evaporate with 1 spoon a liter of Proactive nano powder. This was recomended by a hydro shop and said it can be used as calmag.

    Anyway i have 2 plants one is 30 days old and the other is 24 days old. the younger one has brown spots on it and one leaf is dried and yellow. the older one is showing the early signs which the younger one showed about a week ago which is just wrinkly leaves and curled down. i have no idea what this could be as the other 3 plants seem fines to me.

    I may have spider mites as i have silk looking string around some of the plants.

    if you have any idea what this please comment! Thank you!

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    I don't see any signs of spider mites, which usually start with tiny reddish spots on the tops of your leaves and progress from there. Truthfully, the plants look pretty healthy to me, although I would possibly remove the top large fan leaves (only) to allow more light to reach growth sites. This makes for bigger buds later on, since the direct light promotes the most vigorous growth. Leaf damage can take weeks to show up, so the spots that you are seeing could have happened weeks ago, and only showing up now, similar to spider mite's damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimster View Post
    I don't see any signs of spider mites, which usually start with tiny reddish spots on the tops of your leaves and progress from there. Truthfully, the plants look pretty healthy to me, although I would possibly remove the top large fan leaves (only) to allow more light to reach growth sites. This makes for bigger buds later on, since the direct light promotes the most vigorous growth. Leaf damage can take weeks to show up, so the spots that you are seeing could have happened weeks ago, and only showing up now, similar to spider mite's damage.
    Thanks for that, I am going to spray anyway as already ordered it!

    I have been debating on if i should remove any sun leaves to let light come thru and i did take a few of the plants sun leaves off yesterday along with a good water of 75% r/o 25% tap

    Then will train a cola into the space as i noticed how much room some of the fan leaves too up

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    Afternoon people,

    Not going to create a new post but i have another problem

    So after i did what you guys suggested which was to just water normally with ro mixed with tap water and sprayed with the C no insects i saw an improvement they perked up and looked healthy.

    About 3 days ago which was 1 day after spraying with c no insects I saw yellowing of lower leaves with black marks, i looked it up and it could be due to PH but why would they only now start showing ph problems. Or it could be a fungus. Or burn from spraying? has anyone any idea what it is? Oh yh they are 41 days old and 36 days old now. :/

    Lows have been 15c and highs 28c but that was 2 days ago so i added a heater and is now lows of 18c and highs 27c. watered on the 12th with 2ml grow and 1ml bloom per litre

    any input will be appreciated!

    Have a blessed evening

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