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    Hi like it says i'm really pissed off now, i have tried to do 4 autos 2 at 2 different times now and none of them have made it past 28 days, i know 99% of it is my fault but i just don't know why i'm struggling so much, the only ok looking one that got to 28 days was a rqs quick one and it was tiny at that stage, i think it died due to a stupid watering schedule and it was underwatered, i asked for and got some good advice on here but as i'm unable to post any good quality pictures with an old shite phone it's hard to help me really, basically the way i've been doing it is the paper towel way, then putting it into the soil and watering it using a bottle with holes in the top a couple of times a day and i haven't got to use any nutrients yet, my humidity hasn't been the best mostly between low 30's to high 30's could that be why they have stayed tiny ?
    and the temps have mainly been between 25-28c, i think my main mess up is with the way i've been watering, as when i do it i usually go around the middle then the outside but i seen on a video yesterday and a guy said water in the middle till they get older, one thing i've noticed as well is the couple that have got to 3 weeks the lower leaves start to turn yellow and fall off, i don't check the water ph but have done a couple of random times and it's 6-7 using the paper sheets
    i start them with the mars 300 light at 23 inch could this be messing them up, should i use my dual spec 300w cfl till they get older, also i've had the mars lights on 24/7 do yus reckon i should cut that down to 18/6 my intake on the growdrobe is passive would it be better if it was a fan sucking the air in

    so i'm wondering if i should soak my soil before planting the seed and do yus just spray the soil for a few days or water the whole pot or just the middle till it gets older

    should i start them with the cfl instead of the led's

    i've read they shouldn't be transplanted but then i've read that it would be easier to start them in a smaller pot first

    cheers and sorry for the moan lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by skunkblast View Post
    Hi like it says i'm really pissed off now, i have tried to do 4 autos 2 at 2 different times now and none of them have made it past 28 days, i know 99% of it is my fault but i just don't know why i'm struggling so much, the only ok looking one that got to 28 days was a rqs quick one and it was tiny at that stage, i think it died due to a stupid watering schedule and it was underwatered, i asked for and got some good advice on here but as i'm unable to post any good quality pictures with an old shite phone it's hard to help me really, basically the way i've been doing it is the paper towel way, then putting it into the soil and watering it using a bottle with holes in the top a couple of times a day and i haven't got to use any nutrients yet, my humidity hasn't been the best mostly between low 30's to high 30's could that be why they have stayed tiny ?
    and the temps have mainly been between 25-28c, i think my main mess up is with the way i've been watering, as when i do it i usually go around the middle then the outside but i seen on a video yesterday and a guy said water in the middle till they get older, one thing i've noticed as well is the couple that have got to 3 weeks the lower leaves start to turn yellow and fall off, i don't check the water ph but have done a couple of random times and it's 6-7 using the paper sheets
    i start them with the mars 300 light at 23 inch could this be messing them up, should i use my dual spec 300w cfl till they get older, also i've had the mars lights on 24/7 do yus reckon i should cut that down to 18/6 my intake on the growdrobe is passive would it be better if it was a fan sucking the air in

    so i'm wondering if i should soak my soil before planting the seed and do yus just spray the soil for a few days or water the whole pot or just the middle till it gets older

    should i start them with the cfl instead of the led's

    i've read they shouldn't be transplanted but then i've read that it would be easier to start them in a smaller pot first

    cheers and sorry for the moan lol
    cheers
    I feel you buddy can be painful this hobby!

    I'm not experienced enough to advise really dude. Although I had more success starting them with a cfl than led so that might be a start (however it's not like it's a 1000w led at 12"... So now I'm doubting myself lol).

    Other than that let's hope some of the experts can come give you a few pointers. Good to vent though, better out than in!

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    Did you say you water a few times a day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skunkblast View Post
    Hi like it says i'm really pissed off now, i have tried to do 4 autos 2 at 2 different times now and none of them have made it past 28 days, i know 99% of it is my fault but i just don't know why i'm struggling so much, the only ok looking one that got to 28 days was a rqs quick one and it was tiny at that stage, i think it died due to a stupid watering schedule and it was underwatered, i asked for and got some good advice on here but as i'm unable to post any good quality pictures with an old shite phone it's hard to help me really, basically the way i've been doing it is the paper towel way, then putting it into the soil and watering it using a bottle with holes in the top a couple of times a day and i haven't got to use any nutrients yet, my humidity hasn't been the best mostly between low 30's to high 30's could that be why they have stayed tiny ?
    and the temps have mainly been between 25-28c, i think my main mess up is with the way i've been watering, as when i do it i usually go around the middle then the outside but i seen on a video yesterday and a guy said water in the middle till they get older, one thing i've noticed as well is the couple that have got to 3 weeks the lower leaves start to turn yellow and fall off, i don't check the water ph but have done a couple of random times and it's 6-7 using the paper sheets
    i start them with the mars 300 light at 23 inch could this be messing them up, should i use my dual spec 300w cfl till they get older, also i've had the mars lights on 24/7 do yus reckon i should cut that down to 18/6 my intake on the growdrobe is passive would it be better if it was a fan sucking the air in

    so i'm wondering if i should soak my soil before planting the seed and do yus just spray the soil for a few days or water the whole pot or just the middle till it gets older

    should i start them with the cfl instead of the led's

    i've read they shouldn't be transplanted but then i've read that it would be easier to start them in a smaller pot first

    cheers and sorry for the moan lol
    cheers
    No need to apologise for having a moan, hell we all need to from time to time...its good that you shared how you were feeling instead of just jacking it in. Do not worry in the slightest, there are many experienced growers in this community that will help you reach your goal..and having M_C on dial means you will reach your goal in no time mate no worries at all!

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    Hi mate sorry to hear your woes
    Yes humidity plays a massive factor for a seedling, up until around a couple of weeks from sprouting the roots can't be big enough to grow the plant and the more water you tip in to the pot it will likely just sit there and your roots are not developed enough to handle a load of water so need to take enough moisture through her leaves

    So that's why your rh is more important at a young age
    With temps high the plant can't drink enough to keep the leaves moist
    Get your humidity to atleast 60-70% and watch seedlings take off
    Around £40 will get you a 5l humidifier enough for jyst a couple of plants
    Sorry if bad explanation, just did a night shift
    Gl fella

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    dude.............take M.C offer up....snap it up b4 other do.

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    Your PH needs to be between 5.5 and 6.5 mate. I use advanced nutrients which automatically balance the PH. During veg your humidity needs to be much higher.. at least 65%, try chucking a wet towel in the corner of your grow room to raise it until you get a humidifier

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    Quote Originally Posted by M_C View Post
    If you have any more auto seeds & need mentoring through a grow then drop me a PM & I'll see if I can get you to that elusive harvest
    cheers m8 i appreciate that i have got a few left but wasn't sure if it was worth it again without a humidifier?
    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by curiouscultivator View Post
    I feel you buddy can be painful this hobby!

    I'm not experienced enough to advise really dude. Although I had more success starting them with a cfl than led so that might be a start (however it's not like it's a 1000w led at 12"... So now I'm doubting myself lol).

    Other than that let's hope some of the experts can come give you a few pointers. Good to vent though, better out than in!

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    cheers m8 i appreciate you reading and commenting and it does get you down when it doesn't work out but hopefully the next one will be THE ONE lol
    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by CityDweller View Post
    Did you say you water a few times a day?
    a couple m8
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceCalibur View Post
    No need to apologise for having a moan, hell we all need to from time to time...its good that you shared how you were feeling instead of just jacking it in. Do not worry in the slightest, there are many experienced growers in this community that will help you reach your goal..and having M_C on dial means you will reach your goal in no time mate no worries at all!
    cheers m8 i thought that most of you on here will have been through this at some point so thought it would be best on here lol
    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by skunkblast View Post
    cheers m8 i appreciate that i have got a few left but wasn't sure if it was worth it again without a humidifier?
    cheers
    Drop me a PM & we'll go through what you have and we'll make a plan of action

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greengrass View Post
    Hi mate sorry to hear your woes
    Yes humidity plays a massive factor for a seedling, up until around a couple of weeks from sprouting the roots can't be big enough to grow the plant and the more water you tip in to the pot it will likely just sit there and your roots are not developed enough to handle a load of water so need to take enough moisture through her leaves

    So that's why your rh is more important at a young age
    With temps high the plant can't drink enough to keep the leaves moist
    Get your humidity to atleast 60-70% and watch seedlings take off
    Around £40 will get you a 5l humidifier enough for jyst a couple of plants
    Sorry if bad explanation, just did a night shift
    Gl fella
    cheers m8 i thought it might be the humidity it's just my luck for it to be something out of my control (well without a humidifier anyway) i'm going to get the humidifier as soon as i can it's just getting the dough together i know it's not alot for some but till i get my own stuff harvested i'm still buying my smoke so it's a tricky situation, and no bad explanation m8
    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by iwallace View Post
    dude.............take M.C offer up....snap it up b4 other do.
    lol i feel very honoured to be mentored by one of the best, just got to get my humidifier first i think
    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gatherer View Post
    Your PH needs to be between 5.5 and 6.5 mate. I use advanced nutrients which automatically balance the PH. During veg your humidity needs to be much higher.. at least 65%, try chucking a wet towel in the corner of your grow room to raise it until you get a humidifier
    never knew that m8 i've read that many different things on here and on the web, i thought it had to be between 6 and 7
    cheers

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    Two to three weeks from sprouting is where ideally you want as near as 70% humidity and the more leaves and bigger they get the more moisture it will create itself
    And lights off takes care of itself if you notice the rise
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    Oldest is 20 days (back one topped), these are at 50% alone now, but I just give the walls a quick spray and it's back to 70 before creeping down
    And depending where you live like here in UK I've realised can't be done with towels it's gotta be mechanical or you'll end up either packing in like you say or never out of tent damping down
    Just my tuppence worth
    And only pack it in when youve filled a few jars pal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greengrass View Post
    Two to three weeks from sprouting is where ideally you want as near as 70% humidity and the more leaves and bigger they get the more moisture it will create itself
    And lights off takes care of itself if you notice the rise
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    Oldest is 20 days (back one topped), these are at 50% alone now, but I just give the walls a quick spray and it's back to 70 before creeping down
    And depending where you live like here in UK I've realised can't be done with towels it's gotta be mechanical or you'll end up either packing in like you say or never out of tent damping down
    Just my tuppence worth
    And only pack it in when youve filled a few jars pal
    Gl
    Cheers m8 at 28 days mine looked well smaller the leaves the size everything, I’ll have to put a few pics up but like I said the quality is poor as I don’t want anything on my proper phone, I thought the main factor for them being so small was down to the humidity too, and I tried putting a bucket in the room with the growdrobe in and it didn’t do anything for me but somebody told me on here the humidity problems could be down to it being a growdrobe
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by skunkblast View Post
    Cheers m8 at 28 days mine looked well smaller the leaves the size everything, I’ll have to put a few pics up but like I said the quality is poor as I don’t want anything on my proper phone, I thought the main factor for them being so small was down to the humidity too, and I tried putting a bucket in the room with the growdrobe in and it didn’t do anything for me but somebody told me on here the humidity problems could be down to it being a growdrobe
    Cheers
    Have a look on YouTube, seen a few small USB humidifiers on show probably perfect for you
    If your growdrobe is small this could work for pennies
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    Just looked on fleabay
    For a fiver it might be worth a nudge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greengrass View Post
    Have a look on YouTube, seen a few small USB humidifiers on show probably perfect for you
    If your growdrobe is small this could work for pennies
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    Just looked on fleabay
    For a fiver it might be worth a nudge
    cheers m8 i'll have a look at them

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