Here is the Bio Bizz feeding chart for both all-mix and light-mix.
Here is the Bio Bizz feeding chart for both all-mix and light-mix.
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Good info for all bio-biz growers
Just to point out the chart is for rooted cuttings not seedlings and of course every plant is different and you should always try to tailor the feed to a particular plants needs rather than one size fits all if running more than one strain. start low, less is more and underfeeding is easier to fix than overfeeding!
Also a good thing to remeber is IF you aren't using a soil such as Allmix, the litemix feeding chart is a good starting point. I have used it when running b&q multi purpose, with great results.
Is it really necessary to feed 4ml of grow at the end of a grow though? Especially if you are also feeding 4ml of algamic?
Which leads me to wonder if it's necessary (or even advisable) to use algamic with every watering?
I'm not asking this because I know the chart is misleading and encouraging you to use more bio-bizz products than you should, I'm asking because every other bio-bizz schedule I've seen has recommended lower doses, later starting times and lower grow doses throughout the bloom phase.
algamic is only really beneficial if you're plants are stressed out, of course this chart is just a guide and you can start lower, using guano based soil I've found bloom doesn't need raising to 4ml per litre but all-mix has no guano in, I personally like to feed as little as possible and use benficial bacteria and a humic/fulvic based soil conditioner.
4ml of grow is way to much for most compost's apart from bio-bizz light mix,i normally only use a max of 2ml grow per/l and 3ml bloom and once you've used the alga-mic replace it with seaweed extract as its much better.
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So on week 10 you're supposed to use 16ml/L of fert?'
Has anyone actually done (or see a grow diary) where that was done?
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At least half my vars i hold by end of flowering im giving them 4ml per ltr grow *shrugs*
And this is in allmix not the lightmix crap they sell!
Basicly i give a plant what its asking for, if its not asking i dont give, pretty simple really.
Last edited by BomShiva; 09-04-08 at 05:31 AM.
All i use is Bio-Bizz grow and bloom the rest of the shit they sell is just that SHIT!
No prize veg grower spends hundreds on various extracts that do this and that only stoned growers do!
Algamic, topmax and bio heaven are utter shit dont waste your money!
I will be using molasses when the Topmax runs out
As for the seaweed extract, is there a supplier anyone reccomends? Also, I got some Vitalink Biopac free a while ago, is this stuff a seaweed extract? I've been using it in germination and early veg only but should I maybe use it more often?
I ran with 4ml gr & bl at particular points in the WW grow, as they needed it, and if you check out my diary they didn't complain...
I use to panic about over ferting, until Bom reminded me I was using organic and its near impossible to over fert in organic...although I did say HOW MUCH a few times until i realised i should shut up and take advice off knowledgeable people.
I now have my copy of this chart glued on my forehead...
Although obviously it depends on the strain and plant what you end up giving them, and I guess time will teach me how to read my plants better.
Good informative chart Bom, nice post!
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So if you are using Topmax is it best to start using it straight away?
Also, Bom? I noticed somewhere that you said you used 4ml/l bloom to set the micro herd going. Would you do that at the beginning of flower?
Presume you'd do it at the beginning of flower like with the fishmix but don't trust me, I'm blonde.You could just set the micro heard up with 5ml per lts grow if you wanted, but fish mix is diffrent to grow at least half of the fishmix is instantly avaliable to the plants the second you water with it.
This is a very well known and respected growers opinion of biobizz nutes from a diffrent forum.
These are not my words these are of somebody who has prob been using these bio bizz nutes long long before i ever did.......
"The BioBizz chart is for rooted cuttings not seedlings.
The optimum ph of the compost for maintaining health and growth is 6.5 to 6.8. It is much harder for the compost to buffer up than to buffer down.
I don't know how many time I have to say this, if you do ph down not below 6.5! You will mess up the micro flora and if not very careful ruin the compost..
In answer to your Q's Mr Dragon your programme vis 3 inch to 6 inch to 11 litre is fine. But for the 3 inch pots use half and half allmix and perlite.
As soon as the rootball is netted with fine roots move them to your 6 inch pots and neat allmix.
Same story for the move to the final pots. Once in the final pots let them root out the soil ball before flowering, as a general rule of thumb once all the plants are showing roots at the drainage holes. Go to 12/12.
You should not need any feed right through these stages. Once you are on 12/12 start feeding 1 ml of both grow and bloom to a litre of water.
At about week 2 of flowering change the mix to 1 ml grow and 2 ml bloom per litre.
At week 3 [21 days] a one off feed of a heaped table spoon of epsom salts per 10 litres add to that 1 ml of grow and 2 ml of bloom.
Round the 4 week mark, the mix is 1ml gr and 3 ml bl.
Once you start to see browning of pistils change to 2 ml gr and 1 ml bl keep with that till the end.
All you really need is grow and bloom + a little epsom salts.
Does this make sense?
An added point, if you see the tissue between the veins on the lower leaves turning a lighter green at any point its likly the first signs of Mg shortage starting an addition of a little epsom salts to the next feed should keep things right. Don’t over do this or else you can lock out other nutrients."
Id just like to add thats not the dosages i use myself,but this person is very well respected in the canna scene and i thought his opinions were warranted in this thread.
once you learn a var you like, she will tell you want she wants when she needs it.
Just figured a diff take on the guide was worthy of a mention.
Its not as easy to burn plants with organic nutes and as long as you keep an eye on how the plants react to the feed you should be fine, start low and work your way up gradually.
I wasn't really saying it's too much, just that it seems like a lot to me.
It certainly isn't necessary to feed 4ml per litre of grow in all mix/bat-mix, just because extra feed is being given to the plant it doesn't mean the plant is using it.
I give 1ml per litre of grow throughout flower.
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