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    The roots don't root cause the res doesn't sit there for long enough. Most root rot comes from lack of oxygen, every time you water the buckets the water gets oxygenated. Also it works as a wick method as the water evaporates up into/gets pulled up by the vermiculite.

    That's my understanding of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TC-UP View Post
    Hi nice description, can you just clarify for me.
    The basic principle is to have a high ratio medium of 1 third each soil, vermiculite and perlite. This is used in a container that has a drainage hole about 2 inches from the base. You then use a nutrient rich food to water. This allows a reserve of solution to be kept in the bottom of the pot.
    What prevents rotting in the roots?
    no not soil it holds far to much water the ratio 3 parts perlite to 1 part vermiculite or you can use coco and you put perlite in the res up to the drain hole then coco for the rest of it and yes you have the principled
    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Mystic View Post
    ^^ that is something I always wondered about hydro grows, why dont the roots rot? especially in a passive sysytem like hempy buckets where the water isnt agitated while it sits in the res
    neph has it the water isnt in the buckets long enough to cause and problems its best to let the buckets go quite dry which you know by the weight of the buckets
    and there is plenty of oxygen in all the little air gaps in the medium
    Quote Originally Posted by Neph View Post
    The roots don't root cause the res doesn't sit there for long enough. Most root rot comes from lack of oxygen, every time you water the buckets the water gets oxygenated. Also it works as a wick method as the water evaporates up into/gets pulled up by the vermiculite.

    That's my understanding of it.
    and you would be right with that spot on

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    Cheers for clearing that up.

    Might have a go, do you "pot up" ?

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    Some people do, I think G-man does.

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    yes i start in cut off 2 L pop bottles i did start in smaller plastic cups but i like to water less so the bigger 1L pots are much better but if you have the room put them in the final buckets it saves the few days you have to wait until the roots hit the res and you get great growth again.
    i start seeds in jiffy's and when the roots show they go in to the 1 L pots i put the drain hole 1.25 inches from the bottom and and you need to feed lightly i use a ec of .7/8 and raise it every few waterings by a point or to what ever the plants have told me , it doesn't take long to get the hang of what the plants are doing and needing, hydroponics is much easier to control i feel than soil and the plants respond quickly . ive found you can grow a plant quite big in a 1L pot up to 13inches easily
    i also cover my 1L bottle pots with wide black tape ive read it is to stop the light causing algae how necessary that is i cant say another thing ive noticed is that with a 2/1 mix you get a bit of discolouration on the surface when if you use 3/1 you don't, i put this down to the vermiculite holds more water and that might breed algae but it doesn,t cause any problems the plants grow the same
    hope this helps any more questions just ask
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Man View Post
    yes i start in cut off 2 L pop bottles i did start in smaller plastic cups but i like to water less so the bigger 1L pots are much better but if you have the room put them in the final buckets it saves the few days you have to wait until the roots hit the res and you get great growth again.
    i start seeds in jiffy's and when the roots show they go in to the 1 L pots i put the drain hole 1.25 inches from the bottom and and you need to feed lightly i use a ec of .7/8 and raise it every few waterings by a point or to what ever the plants have told me , it doesn't take long to get the hang of what the plants are doing and needing, hydroponics is much easier to control i feel than soil and the plants respond quickly . ive found you can grow a plant quite big in a 1L pot up to 13inches easily
    i also cover my 1L bottle pots with wide black tape ive read it is to stop the light causing algae how necessary that is i cant say another thing ive noticed is that with a 2/1 mix you get a bit of discolouration on the surface when if you use 3/1 you don't, i put this down to the vermiculite holds more water and that might breed algae but it doesn,t cause any problems the plants grow the same
    hope this helps any more questions just ask
    regards G
    Perfect bit of info for me, thank you mate, cant wait to give it a go!

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    Hi all,

    I'm pretty new to growing and would like to start with a hempy bucket grow. I need to keep costs down and this looks like the best method of hydroponic growing for the serious spendthrift! I've started my seeds, these are from a mates stash and I've no idea what they are or if they'll be male or female, in soil, largest seedling is still only 3", is there any problem transferring these to a hempy system?

    Also, I've been reading about nutrients and like the idea of using the powdered ones supplied by GH, they should be cheaper on the P&P and I believe have a longer shelf life than liquid based nutes, but I'm struggling to find out where to purchase them, can anyone nudge me in the right direction.

    Finally and sorry about the q's, what's the best method of testing for nutrient PH, I guess you guys would use a meter but are the cheap ones you can get on the bay for a tenner or less any good or do I need to outlay a little more and get myself something better, again tight budget to consider but I do intend to continue growing so I'm prepared to spend a bit on the items I'll be able to reuse?

    Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

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    you can transfer to hempy at any time you can wash the soil off under the tap or in a bucket and if in jiffys just plant them in the hempy i grow my seedling in jiffy plugs the root dont have to be super clean a bit of soil left on them is fine
    i dont know much about dry nutes but ive read good things and yes they are cost affective if you buy them in the right amounts i would think ive seen them mostly on us sites im sure some one must know of them
    i use a cheap ebay meter it cost 12 quid i think and came with control bases to calibrate it which you need to do before use
    mine was way out
    you can get the liquid PH test kit but it not a great way to do it and not accurate at all
    i just found the perfect starter pots in the 99p shop see my post in hempy forum
    i also use the cheap ec meter from ebay and its fine for me
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    nice one man, you learn something new every day and all that shit
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    lol thats very true

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    woo hoo, been to the local grow shop and got me some hydro nutes a & b 35, ready for the buckets....bring it on I say! lol

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    all systems go then MM nice one i will look forward to see how some one elses go

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Man View Post
    i also use the cheap ec meter from ebay and its fine for me
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    Hi G-Man, Do you actually need the EC meter with your hempy grows or can I go without one for now. My PH meter is ordered but still no nutes. I'm awaiting an email from Plant Magic, but if I don't hear from them I think I'm going to go for the same as you and use Vitalink. If I do what do I actually need to purchase from them? I'm assuming max grow and bloom A+B but are there any extras you recommend?
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    well for veg i found that just the a/b max grow was good on its own with a bit of general hydroponics silicon( helps plants become resistant to diseases) as it doubles for ph up all used at half strength and for flower you need the bloom ab plus buddy and the silicon thats the min you need oh and get some epsom salts cheap at the chemist it make the plants green up i use it once a week at one tsp a gallon
    i use all the additives now cos as i could afford them but i should of done a side by side comparison with out the adds and with them then i would know how well they worked , i use fulvic , bio pac, bio plus, silicon and epsoms a lot of people dont use the additives a lot do its a personal thing i think
    fulvic is a good idea for sure read what they do and make you own mind up
    yes you can do with out a ec pen i didnt have one up till 2nd week of flower but make sure you use half recommended dose you can always add more but ive not needed to and thanks to that advice i got given by icon( hes a vitalink user) no real damage has been done
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    might give this a go on my next grow. Im currently doing hydro with bubblers so it will save me on using my air pumps.
    Cheers for the info

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    if you want sth simple then this is the simplest hydro there is for sure

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    looks easy enough. maybe i'll give it a try - got some clones going right now. they'll need to go somewhere soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Man View Post
    How it works:
    Hempys have a reservoir oF nute rich water below the drain hole and once the roots have grown to that res you will see some explosive growth

    How to make a hempy:

    Things you need
    10L bucket any colour
    drill or sth to make the hole
    perlite / vermiculite 3/1 parts
    that is you done! simple eh?

    OK how to make it:

    bucket 10L is a good size drill a hole 2" or so from the bottom i used a 5/16 drill and you done one Hempy bucket!

    this is to stop the bucket from being to wet, and you cant over water with this system
    it is a over flow, this mix of 3/1 is a good system to wick up the nute rich water to the plant and the plant dips its toes in to the res as well and drinks for there too
    you can use a tray to get to over spill from the drain hole or any system you want to use
    fill with you chosen medium in this case as above

    pot the plant up in to it i use jiffys for the seedlings then the lower half of 2 L pop bottles as starter pots also Hempy style the hole is at 1" or so, i use these until i'm ready to re-pot as they don't take up much room compared to 10L buckets
    mixing the medium you can dampen the perlite if you don't like the dust






    water with 6.2 ph nuted water and you ready to grow! Hempy has found 6.2 ph to be best so have i, 5.8 gave me spots on the leaves
    you can use any hydro nutes you wish, its a case of finding sth you feel happy with, i am using Vitalink from advice given on this forum and im very happy with them

    There is a growing trend of using coco at the moment you can use coco in Hempy buckets but you must fill the res with perlite or similar because the coco will get to wet, it needs drainage to work correctly there are some great grows in this style as well.
    if you have any questions just ask i'm sure plenty here can answer you questions fully.

    Here's what you can do with a 10L bucket one of Hempys plants it yielded a pound dry

    i'm not a expert but i am well read on Hempys ill try to answer any questions you have
    regards G-Man
    hey great thread m8, have learnt alot already, but was wondering why 1 pic the bucket is half filled and the next fully filled, why is this? is it just filled with medium?

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    you mean the pic with the plant in a jiffy? i hadnt finished potting it i fill the buckets right to the top hope that what you meant if not ask again im happy to help
    my crop is nearly finished and im more than happy with the way these buckets perform

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Man View Post
    you mean the pic with the plant in a jiffy? i hadnt finished potting it i fill the buckets right to the top hope that what you meant if not ask again im happy to help
    my crop is nearly finished and im more than happy with the way these buckets perform

    yeah man, thats exactly what I meant. I thought it couldnt be that complicated could it? Stoner for you. lol

    Thanks G-man! Psst, hope that dont mean you shot G bags.........lol

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