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    Default Answered: Do you need to flush soil? or can you just leech the plant?

    i know hydro is where the term flushing comes from and refers to flushing out the medium for build ups ect...and have read about leeching the plant so uses up all the nutes it has left and starts eating itself. So my Q is if the plant is healthy would i actually flush the soil by running lots of fresh water throught it or do you just stop putting nutes in and water as usual..???

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    Thats just what iv have always done, some may say differently.
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    stop using nuts and just water mate from my soil grows and what ive read few weeks before harv just feed with water.

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    There is two stages to a "real" flush. The first is putting around 3-5 times the amount of water the pot can hold, through the soil, washing away any excess salt build up and the second stage is continuing to just feed plain water untill harvest.
    Thats just what iv have always done, some may say differently.
    humble

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    Well I just feed water from 2 weeks till end and I miss the last watering totally ( I think this speeds up drying ).
    I have 6 x 25/30 litre pots upstairs.
    I have done the math and I'm not carrying fully laden, bud exploding pots up and down stairs and putting threw 100 L water threw each pot. the missus would kill me with the mess.

    This is what I do, and will continue doing.
    Hope you find a way that suits your grow.

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    only ever grown in soil & as long as its organic you dont really need to IMO, ive never flushed & it tasted pretty good

    My golden rule is: if im using chemical ferts then i need to flush, if your using organic ferts then i dont need to

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    This one is a never ending argument, flush, no flush, leech etc.
    Personally, I believe that in its final 2 weeks, this is when the plants pack the majority of their weight on and develop most of its goodies. I have never understood why people would starve a plant at this point.
    So, I carry on feeding until the chop, maybe missing the last feed as Alzy said to speed up drying. However thats in soil, in hydro, I dont even do that.
    My theory is that if I carry on feeding and give the bud a proper cure for 3 or 4 weeks on top of drying, I will have more bud than flushing/leeching.
    Since I stopped mixing my joints with tobacco and have been using vapes, pipes or bongs, its the bud I can taste and have yet to have any spoiled by chemicals.
    The only thing I get is a sweet after taste from using molasses in soil but never a chemical taste.
    Do what makes ya happy and if you can, split your plants so some have feed, some dont and see which you prefer. Remember, our taste buds are not all the same, if they were, McDonalds wouldnt exist, it would be just Burger King
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    thanks people so it would seem more people dont flush the medium just leech with no complaints of taste..would like to hear from anyone who has had a diff result and yeh woody might just do that ..will keep feeding one and see if i can taste the difference and post back here after

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    Cheers for the heads up woody on leeching.
    Gonna feed 3 till chop and 3 till last 2 weeks.
    Might fiddle with the nutes and leave out the Dutch pro A+B grow on the last 2 weeks and only use boosters and enhancers.

    I'm not sure about leaving the whole plant intact with leave on when i chop .this will take weeks to dry out IMO.

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    OW made a very good point there!
    Something I often forget to mention but always carry out is careful removal of the leaves.
    The biggest ballacher in growing has to be trimming at harvest time.
    I tend to chop at the base, turn it upside down and start trimming the fan leaves off.
    I leave most of the sugar leaves in place so they surl around the buds as they dry, protecting all those lovely crystals.
    The sugar leaves I do chop go into making hash...

    I think the bottom line here is that once you cure your bud properly, only a serious connoisseur would be able to tell the difference between a flushed plant and one that has not been flushed. Add to this the fact most people mix their weed with tobacco and you negate the need to flush! If your weed is mixed with tobacco, you have ruined the flavour of the weed itself so why bother flushing?

    Test it yourself as I mentioned in my last post, its the only way to find out for yourself. I would say there is about a 99% chance you will never flush or leech again once you experiment with it.
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    I may have misunderstood OW woody, I thought he ment cut at base and then hang till dry. I'm sure OW didn't mention anything about removing fan leaves.
    I normally remove these the day befor I chop Just befor the lights go out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alzy View Post
    Well I just feed water from 2 weeks till end and I miss the last watering totally ( I think this speeds up drying ).
    I have 6 x 25/30 litre pots upstairs.
    I have done the math and I'm not carrying fully laden, bud exploding pots up and down stairs and putting threw 100 L water threw each pot. the missus would kill me with the mess.

    This is what I do, and will continue doing.
    Hope you find a way that suits your grow.
    Just moving the pots has put my back out

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    Alzy. I dont think OW mentioned the fan's, I have not removed them the day before as you suggest, that will be something I try when I fire up my lights again.
    I do leave most sugar leaves on though, they are usually covered with crystals so they make for great hash but also offer some protection to the buds when they curl around them. Its the old balancing act that experience makes easier lol.

    Ouch Babybud! I take it that was to flush out? Thats almost 1/8th of a ton you moved!!! Only 1 answer to it my friend, Go hydro! No heavy pots to move. Drain the water out, you are left with a top heavy plant. Even better, go RDWC and nothing gets moved lol. If flushing (which I dont do), just drain with a pump & refil the buckets with a hose pipe.
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    DWC or RDWC is my next adventure.
    Got some great whit shark seeds and with the issues im having with PM atm im gonna have to clean out and do some heavy duty cleaning.
    I can't knock soil for ease and simpleness. Plus it's the natures way.
    Unless it can grow in a river or stream.???? Dunno?
    Will be asking for a mentor when I start.

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    I do the same OW seems we are reading from the same page after all. Lol
    Took my last lot 3 days to dry!! Must be a record
    No harsh taste or chemical taste/smell (I did use bio bizz products).

    As we are here what do you say to this?ImageUploadedByTapatalk1324077909.413910.jpg
    Foundit hiding under a bud???
    Any ideas and please don't say seed pod!
    (sorry bout dirty finger nails but I am using soil.)

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    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1324077997.524920.jpgfound them on lower branches.
    Have I harmed my femmed seed?

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    Yep from a femmed ghs.
    Bit pissed but looking the bright side I've got more light penetration so temp should go up and better circulating.
    Gonna replace my oscillating fan from a 9-12"
    What do you think of Having the 9" on the floor of the canopy or leave it out as i have my intake blowin threw ducting into the middle of the groom?
    Any ideas welcome as I'm still combating the PM issue

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    Powdery mildew mate.
    But that's another thread.
    cut up now about the loss but gotta do what ya gotta do.

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