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    Some good info on autos. May help.

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    SOIL

    Choosing a good quality soil will make a huge difference to your plants and will help them to develop to their maximum potential. If you skimp on the soil it WILL show. Plants will not be as healthy or vigorous nor will they grow as big and yield as much. I use Bio-Bizz All mix right from seed. Canna Terra and Fox Farms Ocean Forest are also great soils. Adding a little perlite can help with aeration and drainage.

    WATER

    Don't water every day! A lot of people make this mistake. It will slow growth, lower yield significantly and make your plants take longer to finish. Only water when the pot feels light or the top 2 inches of soil are dry. This is usually every 3-5 days.

    POT SIZE

    This one is important. The first few weeks of an autoflower's life is spent developing a strong root system which will provide it with the nutrients and water it needs to go through the rapid growth spurt to come. If there is not enough space within those first few weeks, the plant will not develop a big, healthy root system in time and as a result will grow smaller and yield less.
    Start in the biggest pots you can. The bigger the better. 5L to 7L is good, 8L+ is best.

    NUTRIENTS

    If using a good quality soil like one of the above, start feeding after week 3 from seed. Give only 1/4 strength to begin with. You don't want to overfeed at this stage as this is when the plant begins flowering and goes through a massive growth spurt. Overfeeding will stress the plants and slow down growth considerably. After week 4 increase the nutrients to 1/2 strength and then onto full strength feeding every second watering. If you notice a pale colour to the leaves or the lower leaves beginning to yellow then you need to increase feed at this point. Despite what a lot of people say, some auto's have quite an appetite.

    LIGHT

    HPS

    If you can, go with HPS. Do everything you can to go down the HPS route as apposed to CFL. Even a 150W will do wonders if you are only plan on growing 1-2 plants. When growing under HPS light, plants will grow lots of branches because the light is strong enough to penetrate further down the canopy and reach the small branches between the nodes of the plant. These then grow out and become their own little plants, each producing their own colas.

    CFL

    CFL's are ok and that's about it. Plants will also be smaller and take longer to mature. Keep CFL's as close to the tops as possible, 2-3 inches away or maybe even closer if you can.
    When growing under CFL's, plants won't branch as much as the light can't penetrate past a few inches and therefor doesn't reach the lower branches. These stay small and usually stay close to the main stem to form a single cola.

    SUN

    If you have nice weather where you live you can just grow them outside. You can get great results depending on weather conditions and how much sun you get. If you get sun all the time, expect BIG plants and BIG yeilds. Don't let plants stay out at night if it's too cold ( under 15C) though as this will slow growth. Monitor buds carefully in the last 2 weeks for bud rot.

    TEMPERATURE, HUMIDITY and AIR CIRCULATION

    Don't allow temperatures to exceed 30C (86F) as this will hinder growth. At night, stay above 15C (60F). Humidity can be between 20/50 the entire grow, too high and you could loose your entire crop to bud rot. Make sure you have fresh air circulating in your grow area at all times.

    LIGHT CYCLE

    18/6, 20/4 or 24/0? Which one do you choose? That is entirely up to you. There isn't much difference between them. 24/0 will produce slightly shorter plants and about a 5% increase in yield. That's about it. Just remember to give your plants at least 18 hours of light per day for maximum growth and yield.

    STRAINS

    Be careful when choosing seeds, especially auto varieties. Do a bit of research on a strain before ordering. There are many new auto strains popping up from different breeders all over the place. Some don't show the auto-flowering trait and will have to be put into 12/12 to induce flowering. This is a pain in the ass so rather go with a tried and tested strain and save yourself the hassle of it all going wrong 3-4 weeks from now.

    Here are some strains which I recommend and that have been tried and tested:

    Lowlife AK47 - High yield, strong, big plant
    Buddha White Dwarf - Strong, beautiful aroma, potent smoke
    Lowlife Blueberry - Very tasty, strong, good yield
    Dinafem Roadrunner - Strong smoke, good yield, not 100% stable but close
    Lowlife White Russian - High yield, strong smoke
    Lowlife Hindu Kush - Small, tasty, strong couchlock
    Lowlife Great white shark- Prolific,Couchlock, High yield
    Joint Doctor Easy Ryder - Tasty smoke, high yield
    Joint Doctor Lowryder - Small, medium strength, low yield, low odour
    Joint Doctor Lowryder 2 - Tasty, medium yield, good strength
    Joint Doctor Diesel Ryder - Smelly, tasty, small, potent

    There are many more, but these are some of the best and most stable.

    TIME FRAME

    Ok, so how do you know if you're doing it all right? This time frame should give you an idea of what to expect and when. If your plant is considerably behind what I've put here, then go back and read again.

    DAY 1 - First real leaves emerge
    DAY 6-7 - Plant has 3 nodes with smaller branches beginning to emerge
    DAY 10-12 - 5 nodes
    Day 17-21 - 8 to 10 nodes, plant sex is shown. Very fast growth by this stage.
    Day 25-30 - Plant begins flowering and starts to stretch. Bud sites popping up.
    Day 35-45 - Growth slows, gets a bit boring, buds slowly develop more and more each day.
    Day 50+ - Buds begin to fatten, heavy trichome production and smell. This is the exciting part.
    Day 65-75 - Harvest.

    LST, SCROG, TOPPING & SUPER-CROPPING

    Yes, you can LST autos and it works a treat too! Start tying them down after they reach the 5th/6th node. I usually get 12-14 tops with this method. It also doesn't slow growth which is important. SCROG is also a great way to maximise yield. TOPPING and SUPER-CROPPING are big no no's though! There just isn't enough time for the plant to heal and so will actually end up reducing your yield quite a bit.

    This is some information that was put together and revised by Myself and 2 others awhile back . This is well worth being shared IMO.

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    hi kushink, cheers for that im now glad i said hello in your first post, just a newby on autos at the mo, but my garden is lush.

    thanks again great post.

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    Thanks great info - currently on my 1st grow with 4 different autos so this is definitely a really useful post for me.

    Was wondering when to LST - can I ask a couple of questions pls?

    My plants are around day 17, showed sex a couple of days ago and now have quite a few pistils but are still really short (3-4 inches high) though quite dense, bushy and really wide. There's lots of nodes and lots of new little branches shooting out further down the stem too. They've got quite stocky stems, probably probably due to a fan blowing on them and causing movement most of the time.

    As they're so short and dense should I LST now (by your timings I should), or wait 'till they've stretched a bit as I don't think I could get the head below anywhere useful without causing damage?

    Thanks again!

    edited to add: Forgot to ask... would you recommend LST over scrog for autos?

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    hi kotcit, im doing la diva,il divolo,critical+ autos and as you said they are short at your stage. mine are 4 weeks now and were a lot eazyer to lst, let them get up a bit then away you go.

    ps drill round your pot and get down to the pound shop and get shoe laces they are nice and gentle on your stems, eazy to untie and alter.

    good luck with your grow.

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    a quick up date and lesson for new growers doing lst on there babies, if you do this in your groom, if you have enough space, take a dobbie in then...

    PLEASE put a hat and shades on. after a few hours, my napper(head) was a little toasted and when i came out my eyes were screwed for quite a while.

    please guys no baldy jokes....lol.lol.......hope this helps some of you.

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    Yea , maybe raise the lights a few inches for a day or two to help it stretch a little faster. and then your off to the races mate.

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    Great info thanks. I didn't realise you could SCROG autos too - must look into that. Cheers

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    a little personal info. I am currently growing 1 female diesel ryder(jd) and 2 auto greatwhite shark (lowlife) The lowlife are by far the more prolific of the 2 by far.. Growing in soil under 400hps. will post pics tonight.

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    Brilliant post mate, currently doing 10 Bio Diesels myself - only on day 9 and the growth is starting to speed up now I've got things better setup. I think I'll be using the BioBizz All Mix if it's ok to use from the start.

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    cheers kushink for a good write up for us newbies

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