big problem! very strange

**skaterjoe** · 10-02-09, 08:23 PM

ive had some mixed seeds under a 600w light for veg, some are 8 weeks veg and some are 4 weeks veg. i will post pics over the next few days but first i would like to ask an experts opinion as ive not found ANY similar problem on the site, so............ here it goes!!!!

first of all there is two problems, first the top sets of leaves on all plants are deformed really badly and cannot seem to understand the problem. The second problem is that the branches that come out of the fan leaves arm the fresh sets of leaves that are coming out are litterally black. i thougt it was a burn but it seems to be the bottom arms more than the ones on top, im confused! so first of all has anyone ever experienced blacking (not browning) of the leaves off the spouts? and how did they solve it? ive had a few grows before but never accounted this problem advice would be greatly appreciated forumers! thanks

**wert** · 10-02-09, 08:37 PM

is it black or dark blue /mauve?

**skaterjoe** · 10-02-09, 08:58 PM

its literally the end of the leaves off the spouts they are black

**skaterjoe** · 10-02-09, 09:09 PM

does any one out there have any idea wot it is im gutted i cant get a pic up asap its the leaves literally end working in to the centre of leaf and is fukked black the younger plants that are four weeks have the same problem and so theres 10 with the same problem

**wert** · 10-02-09, 09:09 PM

get the pictures up

**skaterjoe** · 10-02-09, 09:30 PM

im not with them now but seriously im worried as its like all the bud spouts burning out so have put them into 12/12 as they have been in veg for 10 week the biggest 3. without pics i know its hard do u have any advice or links that would be useful for the time bieng cheers thanks for ure help

**wert** · 10-02-09, 09:39 PM

are the plants healthy looking other than the black leaves?
i noticed you say upper leaves are deformed are they a funny shape ,curled up/down? it is so hard without a photo.

**skaterjoe** · 10-02-09, 09:43 PM

yes besides this and the deformed leaves which i did trim on top but all fresh ones coming out are deformed yes besides this problem the plant does look healthy with all fan leaves in tact etc.. and still growing thank you for paying an interest so yer all lookes healtgy besides the problems stated wot u rekon?

**skaterjoe** · 10-02-09, 09:51 PM

when i say deformed top leaves i mean curled in the centre oblonged fooked but im not arsed about that coz they will live its the blackening thats shit could it kill the plants budding stage

**Dredlock** · 10-02-09, 09:59 PM

what temps and nute you given them ??? sounds like you fed em summink they not like explaining both curling leaf and black on fan leaf or have they got really cold for a period recently ?????

**wert** · 10-02-09, 10:00 PM

if it was one plant i would say you have a strange pheno which would probably not matter but if all the plants have the same colouring it may well be a problem.you say they are mixed seeds ,from where?what strain?

**skaterjoe** · 10-02-09, 10:05 PM

i have fed em formulex and some home made plant mix food from a polish friend who is an expert but cannot contact him for assistance the stuff he gave me was made out of plant roots - i have all different plants some kc brazil, kc mist, one white wid, dont know the rest but yer i agree i think its something im giving em shud i drain start again and then change to say aceellorator for flower i kno its shit wid no pics but uve really helped cheers so yer randoms strains with formulex and this wierd eggy smeling water mixed its worked wonders till now they are all in big pots but god knos

**skaterjoe** · 10-02-09, 10:06 PM

good to see u live in spain aswell man i used to live there when i was about 14 on the costa blanca los altos good smoke over there better than here sorry if im blaggin ure head jus in shit with the situation

**wert** · 10-02-09, 10:29 PM

have you grown with your friends mix without problem before or is it the first time useing it?

**lkdj2003** · 10-02-09, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by skaterjoe

and some home made plant mix food from a polish friend who is an expert but cannot contact him for assistance the stuff he gave me was made out of plant roots

That sounds like your answer tbh mate. Unless you pop up some pic's and also tell us more about your mates plant food we won't really be able to help.

It sound like you have a rot problem going on and if your mates food is made from plant roots then i defo recon it's that food.

**gettin2hot** · 11-02-09, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by lkdj2003

That sounds like your answer tbh mate. Unless you pop up some pic's and also tell us more about your mates plant food we won't really be able to help.

It sound like you have a rot problem going on and if your mates food is made from plant roots then i defo recon it's that food.

I agree with the rot suggestion. but thats usually a result of bad irregation. I usually suggest airflow at ths stage.

Is ur specimens getting air (constant in and out air extraction)?
are all pots raised off of the ground with pebbles to allow air circulation at base?
did u use perlite or is it a complete soil mix as sum people do?
Have u ever considered using Biobizz instead of ur polish mates mixture?

**skaterjoe** · 11-02-09, 08:18 AM

ive got a fan its a closet grow, simple compost soil from b an q, rite so if it is rot because its on all plants before budding wat can i do? so it could be the water but i have used this eggy water plant root shit for the past 10 weeks nouts gone wrong. im doing a simple grow yes with stones in the pot etc...

**skaterjoe** · 11-02-09, 08:19 AM

rite i spoke to him ( polish) and he sed the shit is cannaterra mixed with various other biobizz and then plant roots distilled in it

**cornz** · 11-02-09, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by skaterjoe

rite i spoke to him ( polish) and he sed the shit is cannaterra mixed with various other biobizz and then plant roots distilled in it

Ehh???
No wonder your plants are sick mate...
Its no use mixing nutes, they are specifically designed to work on their own, canna terra would be fine, biobizz would be fine, distilled plant roots?? WTF.
But NOT all mixed together. you are simply poisoning your plants.

IF i was you i'd flush them for a few days, give them canna nutes only and VERY weak solution...
Check the PH too as it will be all over the place with that cocktail of poison...

Still cant figure out what the fuck distilled roots are ( trust me, i know about distillation). Unless he's boiling plant roots in water and then condensing the vapour but even so, that should give essentially pure water...I really dont know the evaporation point of canna nutes, bio bizz etc but i would doubt very much that anything good is coming out of it..Other than H2O

**skaterjoe** · 11-02-09, 10:52 AM

so ive got definate rott of the leaves off the spouts off the fanleaves ok so is it possible to cut them off and fresh will grow? or shud i bin all plants as they will not flower?