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    If you use bennies then let it sit for 24 hours otherwise don't bother

    Also why isn't this a sticky??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Upton View Post
    If you use bennies then let it sit for 24 hours otherwise don't bother

    Also why isn't this a sticky??
    Did so with the great white and didn't seem to affect how the GW reacted in my bucket... Cleared up the algae and roots look white and healthy as shit... Maybe I don't have much chlorine in my tap...not sure but I haven't noticed it affecting anything
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    I thought it was common knowledge that chlorine kills the micro heard... maybe i'm wrong???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Upton View Post
    I thought it was common knowledge that chlorine kills the micro heard... maybe i'm wrong???
    No, you're probably right. I was just saying that's what I did with the product still doing its job... That being said, my stoner ass didn't even think of the chlorine killing it(which is why it's added to city water) so from now on I'll be letting water sit out with an airstone running in it

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    You could also add some molasses to feed the heard now all the algae has gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Upton View Post
    You could also add some molasses to feed the heard now all the algae has gone
    How much per gallon would one use? I'll pick some up at the store today... Is there a specific type of molasses?

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    I'm using 20ml of Meridian Organic Blackstrap Molasses (unsulphered), 3/4 of a cup of earth worm shit and a spoon of Great white to 10ltrs of water, which I bubble for 48 hours. I strain the mix through a filter to remove the crap and then add 500ml to my 30ltr system.

    I've also been adding a squirt of liquid seaweed to the mix and have a sponge in the res to give the bennies a home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody J View Post

    Note 3.
    Nutrients flow around a well hydrated plant much more effectively and faster than one which isnt as well hydrated.
    How can growers use this?
    By feeding at lower levels, the plant needs to take on more water in order to get the nutrition it requires.
    So by feeding at moderate levels, this forces the plant to drink more.
    By drinking more, it is better hydrated, because it is better hydrated, it needs more food, making it eat more.
    So feed at moderate levels rather than overly aggressive levels.
    The method of pushing the EC until you see signs of nute burn is damaging to the plants and although many growers use this method, I am not a fan though your plants are not mine!
    I couldn't have said it better. If people took on board this one bit of information that plants dont need to be kept in high EC environments to thrive then there would be a lot more tasty smoke knocking about. Hat off to your excellent advice sir

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    Does this not work for RDWC when you are flooming ??

    what would be the big difference ?

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    None at all even more so in RDWC as the roots are in contact with their food. Keep your ec on the lower side rather than too high.

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    read this on the first couple of lines in the post "This does not apply to waterfall effect or flooming for introducing Dissolved Oxygen" just read it agian and it must have been referring to acid rain effect ??

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    It was all about how ph of water becomes acidic when pumping air into a system through airstones.

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    Hope you don't mind Woody, but I found the table a little hard to read so have reformatted it.

    Water level EC PH Solution
    Static Static Static Plant not feeding/drinking, change EC, check meters. Usually, lowering the EC a little should get the plant feeding again
    Static Static Rising Ph buffers probably raising ph. This is usual. Having a static water level is not though, so again, a slight reduction in EC or a res change should resolve this.
    Static Static Falling Usual cause of this is when media has been rinsed at a lower ph than you require.
    The other possibility is that too much CO2 has been pumped into the water. See Note 1.
    Change your res and look at the volume of air pumped plus look at your air source.
    Static Rising Static Plant is leeching nutrition, raise EC. Note 2
    Static Rising Rising Plant leeching nutrition, Raise EC. An unusual state. The rising ph is probably caused by what nutrient leeching back.
    If these are alkaline, it will lead to the rise in ph. Could also be ph buffers.
    Static Rising Falling As above but be aware of the acid rain effect mentioned in note 1. Res change, plus increase in EC.
    Static Falling Static Plant eating but not drinking. Not ideal. Lower EC or res change
    Static Falling Rising As above but rising ph is a better sign. Lower EC slightly or res change.
    Static Falling Falling Falling ph along with falling EC but no drop in water level suggests a res change. Could also be an acid rain effect as per note 1. Depending on other symptoms, lowering EC after res change.
    Falling Static Static Perfect conditions. EC and ph are at the correct level.
    Falling Static Rising Normal state most people encounter. Nothing to worry about, carry on doing what you are doing unless other plant symptoms.
    Falling Static Falling Res change plus a change of EC. Lower EC if over 1.4, raise EC if lower than 1.0
    Falling Rising Static Plant is drinking more than eating, lower EC.
    Falling Rising Rising Plant is drinking more than eating, lower EC
    Falling Rising Falling Plant is drinking more than eating, lower EC. Also, res change due to possible acid rain problem.
    Falling Falling Static Hungry plant, raise EC. Very good situation to be in. Nute buffers are working and plant is taking a balance of nutrients.
    Falling Falling Rising Almost as above, usually considered almost perfect, raise EC slightly.
    Falling Falling Falling Res change. Potential acid rain issue but plant is still eating & drinking. Raise EC on new res

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    just what i was looking for brilliant info

    and a happy outcome

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    Great thread. Thank you!

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    Hey guys my water level static/ec rising/pH rising. Leaves showing nute burn. Should I still raise EC? Base 0.4 ec was set at 0.6. Day 39 autos, I have a diary running, cheers for any replies.
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    how often do i need to check the EC/PH levels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NatureVal View Post
    how often do i need to check the EC/PH levels?
    Every day chap!!!
    I did for a peace of mind n that

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    Quote Originally Posted by NatureVal View Post
    how often do i need to check the EC/PH levels?
    I check everyday till I knew how things were going. After that I only check every few days. Once you know your set up you don't really have to check every day in my opinion.

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