Is this possible?

**jimmi420** · 12-02-13, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by green grass

cummon jimmi, cunts are useful

I wouldn`t piss on this guy iff he was on fire.

**Petal** · 12-02-13, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Up_in_smoke

These are not very typical. Some people do play the system granted but that bit of propaganda is just typical BNP/EDL rhetoric.
Its akin to the shit spread about cannabis. How all super duper skunk killer hydro weed is gonna rot your brain and kill your kids. Its balls ultimately. And whilst these cases may have claimed that, they may well end up getting it all taken back off them at some point. Its a very agenda filled poster that.
For a start, they give no information whatsoever about the apparently homeless "former soldiers". Well, what if those former soldiers who "fought for their country (might I just put in here, this is not the reason that most people join the army but they love to bring it up every chance they get. My cousin personally joined for the good money and prospects plus he loves submission, lol.) anyway, what if those former soldiers are now all flat out drunks, druggies or shop lifters. It was in the paper only weeks ago about a former soldier murdering someone.
Don't believe everything you read

many former soldiers suffer with ptsd particularly if they had active service and when they leave the service are usually abandoned and the downward spiral continues for them and so yes without proper support and treatment and care they turn to self medicating with drugs and alcohol. I feel for them.

**rapid7** · 12-02-13, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by jimmi420

I wouldn`t piss on this guy iff he was on fire.

ye the guys a fucking idiot but its things like this that messes with logical thinking as people are really struggling and immagrants living it up and causes hate n racism

**Dr Scrogger** · 12-02-13, 03:16 PM

Got to the bottom of page 1 and had to reply. The canary islands and spain have the right kind of system. I moved here with a few hundred euros. I had to get correct paperwork before I could find a job and if you havent got the papers AND paid into the system for over a year then you are entitled to diddly shit. Even now... If I quit my job I get my medical ONLY. If Im sacked or the business goes bust, I have 10 days to claim social benefits and even then I only get a certain amount for a certain time depending on my past contributions. Ive been in the system for 10 years so Id probably get about 700-900 euros a month for a few years but If I find work before the time is up, I get a bonus added to my payments and my new employer would get a cash bonus for hiring me. The system works well out here. Would be better if it worked like this in the UK. Also I got no help in finding out what I needed from the government, I had to ask other locals who live here and the place where you get the papers from refuses to speak any language but spanish, forcing me to learn!!!! If all the immigrants in the uk had to do this there would be a hell of a lot less of them!!!!

Twelve/Twelve

**Sheila** · 13-02-13, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by Petal

I would check out America's healthcare and welfare system first as imo it sucks! and their economy is only just surviving.

For example the company I work for is posting record profits. There are jobs to be had and in many areas unemployment is a choice not a condition where one has no options. The stock market is doing well and banks are moving money again. I would disagree that it is just surviving. It's certainly seen better days but since we just came out of the worst economic period since our Great Depression it's doing very well.

We actually have very good health care if you can pay for insurance or if you are on welfare and the state is paying your way. Our healthcare is just very expensive. We don't have socialized medicine so that's a nasty shock to people that do.

If someone were wanting to move to America the healthcare costs would be a concern.

**carpetburn** · 13-02-13, 11:27 AM

this is what they have been doing with some British unemployed

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...t-work-schemes

**Petal** · 13-02-13, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Sheila

For example the company I work for is posting record profits. There are jobs to be had and in many areas unemployment is a choice not a condition where one has no options. The stock market is doing well and banks are moving money again. I would disagree that it is just surviving. It's certainly seen better days but since we just came out of the worst economic period since our Great Depression it's doing very well.

We actually have very good health care if you can pay for insurance or if you are on welfare and the state is paying your way. Our healthcare is just very expensive. We don't have socialized medicine so that's a nasty shock to people that do.

If someone were wanting to move to America the healthcare costs would be a concern.

Good to hear this Sheila. I am still thinking of everyone who lost their homes through Freddy Mac and Fanny whoever going bust back a few years ago and all the money spent on war for oil! ... same as us here in Aus as far as war for oil goes....grrrrr

Glad things have picked up there as I have been concerned for several of my USA friends.

Cheers hun xo

**BreakingBad** · 20-02-13, 09:34 PM

Most of these stories are bullsh*t just to get us hating immigrants.

**lomkolen** · 28-02-13, 08:41 PM

It is possible, same shit here in Sweden :/

**st nick** · 07-03-13, 06:47 PM

one of the biggest problems in the uk isthe house prices are kept to high. their is a supposed shortage of houses. their for demand keeps prices up. no government will start a mass building program cos that would bring the average price down. even the labour party , the suppoed party of the working man. the top bods live in multi million pound houses and would see a net worth decline in their personnal wealth . and thats a western standard we are judged on. to live in london is expensive cos demand is greatest so values rise and rents are a proportion of value. people with to much money buy a second house as an investment and who wants to loose money . personnal greed has a lot to do with it . a house is seen as an investment not a home. as a homeless person in the past , but have never been unemployed its still hard to find affordable homes . many yonks ago the lending companies were only allowd to lend on one sallery of a joint income. when that was changed to both salleries prices jumped. my veiw is if they can't build the houses then they shouldn't allow extrapeople into the country. my single sallery for my family is competing against houses now that have upto five or six salleries to pay bills . 50% of my income goes in rent. their are to many nimbies and how will our kids afford homes. wages fall as the jobs market is flooded with cheaper labour . my job now pays 25% less than 5 year ago. i earned more in the late 1980's than now. . if i had a wife and kids why should i work when the state payments will be about £60 a month less than i am on working.
yes those who opt to dedicate their time to the saftey of this country by working in the forces do get shafted by being tossed out into civy street often after years of service in underpaid jobs. and if your single the you get very little. i know three ex servicemen who rent a caravan cos benifits will not pay for flat for them. i have a mate who has and never will work. has a house . two kids , gf. he gets more from the state than i could have working. they have sat tv. holidays . car, things i struggle to have. and they complain that its during the recession and they might get their benifits trimmed.