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    Hi THCTalk

    I'm applying to join your forum because I've been informed that I have been the subject of some discussion recently relating to the leader of CLEAR, a campaign I am a senior member of.

    Some background about me:

    I'm in my late 50's now, so I've been around the block a few times. I first encountered cannabis at age 19 in 1973 and I've been a serious activist in the UK cannabis law reform movement since around 1992 or so, although I had been around the original Legalise Cannabis Campaign in the late 70's.

    In 1992 the old LCC had died and a new group sprung up in Norwich, where I live. This called itself the Campaign to Legalise Cannabis international Association (CLCIA) and was based at the old Jacks Yard in the city. My approach right from the start was different from most of the others involved in the CLCIA, not least because at the time I was starting to worry about my tobacco smoking. I had been a cannabis user since the early 70's and because of that I had developed a 20+ a day cigarette habit, which had become apparent when I started world travelling at the tail end of the 80's - I could go without the cannabis with no problem, but tobacco was a must have.

    I decided back then that the cannabis law reform campaign should be a part of the drugs harm reduction movement that was just starting to get underway and so I contacted the local drugs support group, The "Matthew Project" with the idea of getting them on board. This of course didn't happen, but it did involve me in lengthy debates with them about smoking and tobacco which in 1994 eventually encouraged me to cold turkey off the cigs.

    This, as might be imagined, went down like a lead balloon with the cannabis crew, but there was no going back.
    My attempts to spread the anti-tobacco message as a born again non-smoker settled down after a while and I tried - without success - to interest the others in the campaign in a safer use campaign as a part of the law reform argument.

    Around 1995 the internet arrived and with it UKCIA, a website set up by the dying embers of the old LCC as a cannabis information site. By about 1998 it fell into my hands as webmaster and I have been running it ever since. Originally there were several of us, but as is the way of these things it's been a one man operation for many years now. I took full ownership of the site about 5 years ago.

    The Legalise Cannabis Alliance (LCA) grew out of the CLCIA and started up in 1998. For a while was quite successful, but it was dominated by one person who refused to allow anyone else to take a leading role - and my attempts to interest the LCA in the safer use campaign met with determined resistance so I launched "Tokepure" on UKCIA in 2001, which was met with accusations of being "partial prohibition" and "against the freedom of choice".

    Around 2005 I stopped using cannabis - not in the way or for the reasons I had quit tobacco, it was a gradual thing, I think I had taken it as far as it could go to be honest. I remained active in the law reform movement however.
    Over the years the LCA descended into a farce and sometime around 2006/7 I had a big split with them. I used to run a forum on UKCIA and it got to the point where they were flooding it with short posts containing long signatures advertising LCA, I asked them to stop and an argument developed, so I banned about three people , which resulted in a massive drop off of traffic - they had been posting under multiple identities. I watched from the side lines as it became a bad joke. For a while the UK420 site ran a decent activist section, but it was also dominated by arguments and some really nasty personal attacks.

    During all this time several names cropped up as "regulars" - always involved in arguments and attacks.

    By 2010 the LCA had withered to around 50 members and was little more than a bad joke. About this time a new name burst onto the scene - Peter Reynolds (PR). I was suspicious of him at first and decided to keep him at arm's length. He had been a prolific blogger and his blogs were somewhat right of centre, this was something well known . There is no doubt he made a very bad start in the campaign as well but within a very short time he had joined the LCA and been promoted to spokesman. Very shortly after that a vote was held and PR was
    elected - fairly and properly - as the leader of the LCA.

    Over the first part of 2011 PR set about rebranding the LCA into CLEAR and I liked what I saw. I eventually joined the CLEAR team as website editor and my tokepure campaign was welcomed as a key CLEAR campaign.
    Shortly after that the attacks on PR and CLEAR happened. I saw this from the inside. It's been a very nasty, spiteful hate campaign which has been suspiciously well organised. All the regulars are there - the same people who spent much of the past decade at each other's throats were now united against PR and CLEAR. Quite honestly I have never seen anything like this. I do not agree with everything PR says or does, but he has shown himself to be well motivated and a totally dedicated campaigner for law reform over the past year or so. The people attacking him in the main have long been known to me as ineffective at best and trouble makers at worst. The whole anti- PR thing being topped off by a truly disgusting hate site peterreynoldwatch.

    So that's me basically, long term owner of UKCIA and webeditor of clear-uk.org. I'm not a cannabis user any longer, but I do remain passionate about law reform. Not because I want to "free the weed", but because I want to stop people getting hurt by a sick, ineffective and damaging law.

    Please ask away if you have any questions

    Derek

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    Gr8! Welcome n all that !! gd luck n stuff!!


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    Welcome Derek, never heard of you or clear before this post sorry.

    So you're not smoking anymore, do you grow? 10 plant limit here.

    Hope you enjoy your stay
    Completed - Bianca Hybrid Outdoor

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    Clear is quite big over here petal

    Welcome Derek
    Impressive stuff mate

    I hope you find a home here at thc talk, and good luck with the campaign to get our beloved plant legalised

    Please take 5 mins to read our rules and I'm sure your time here will be well spent

    Peace

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    Default Senior activist says hi

    Could you not campaign for Percy growers to be able to grow and smoke their own weed in the privacy of there own home instead of trying to fully decriminalise it even if its 1 or 2 plants

    if that's the sort of question your after that is anyway lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ph1 View Post
    Clear is quite big over here petal
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    Peace
    Oh well glad to hear it, Thanks Ph1

    Forgive the ignorance of this aussie then Derek lol

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    Perhaps you should read this derek its all very relevant

    http://www.thctalk.com/cannabis-foru...olds-the-TRUTH

    Personally I dont really get involved with these sort of things but thats not to say that I dont pay attention to them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icon View Post
    Perhaps you should read this derek its all very relevant

    http://www.thctalk.com/cannabis-foru...olds-the-TRUTH

    Personally I dont really get involved with these sort of things but thats not to say that I dont pay attention to them

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    I'm eager to read his reply Icon nice one.

    No irony today unfortunately.lol

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    Right. Ya know I get confused a bit but is this the Reynolds bloke who we were talking to when the sky lantern thing was being done?? I don't wanna get mixed up again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icon View Post
    Perhaps you should read this derek its all very relevant

    Personally I dont really get involved with these sort of things but thats not to say that I dont pay attention to them

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    I don't care to read negativity when there is a positive campaign underway in the UK for the first time.

    Peter are good friends, and I regularly stay with him at the weekends. How there are so many lies about Peter is beyond me.

    I might not agree with his far-right views, but he is passionate about leading the UK campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NR23Derek View Post
    Hi THCTalk

    Please ask away if you have any questions

    Derek

    I don't really know where to begin Dwerek, but i'll have a go

    Why's your party leader Peter Reynolds, suing Alun Buffry and others? and are CLEAR funds being used to finance this doomed to failure legal action of his?

    My questions regarding Reynolds apparently racist and homophobic views can wait until you've answered the above

    BTW- Why can't you just join like a normal member? Why the grand entrance and CV?
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    Ow I love it when this happens. It always makes good reading with a brew the next morning. I'm so excited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NR23Derek View Post
    I don't care to read negativity when there is a positive campaign underway in the UK for the first time.

    Peter are good friends, and I regularly stay with him at the weekends. How there are so many lies about Peter is beyond me.

    I might not agree with his far-right views, but he is passionate about leading the UK campaign.
    Is there a campaign underway then in the UK? Campaigning for what? eg medical cannabis use, personal use, decriminalisation? Those are the main areas of reform we are focused on in Aus atm as far as I am aware and I'm not very up to date. I'm an old Union Delegate for several years across several industries (not cannabis) and always find my blood thinning as the battle cry of a campaign gets into full swing. lol Good luck and keep us posted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellowed View Post
    Right. Ya know I get confused a bit but is this the Reynolds bloke who we were talking to when the sky lantern thing was being done?? I don't wanna get mixed up again.
    Yeah and he was as helpful to us as a bag of pink spanners to a drowning man!

    Typical politic type creature that wanted to try and get support from us while giving fuxk all in return. I found dealing with him unpleasant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellowed View Post
    Ow I love it when this happens. It always makes good reading with a brew the next morning. I'm so excited.
    Ill be watching, lets just hope it stays clean and actually creates an interesting thread with good, civil questions and answers

    Believe me I'm itching to bash the hammer off some bodies noggin, so keep it friendly people










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    So you joined because of a discussion about your mate but then you don't want to read it?

    Seems odd to me.

    I used to occasionally visit ukcia, started with the silica weed spraying incident. found some good info at the time.

    I think people are rightly concerned that right wing views reflect badly on the cause and ill admit I wouldn't get involved in anything fronted by such a person.

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    Ow wicked. I don't like like him. He smells of pooh and licks drain covers.

    Your right nuube, he was as much us a a chocolate teapot in a summer's day.

    Cretin.

    Ph, are we allowed to call Mr Reynolds names but not the op though right??

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    Everybody has an opinion mukka

    But if he is blatantly his mate then na, it's like your pickin an argument

    Plus name calling isnt very mellow

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    Ok then. I'm going to bed and will read the really proper educated posts tomorra

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    I get the feeling Derek might have bitten off more than he can chew after reading the link above from icon. No wonder he's not replying.

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