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mattdps2
16-08-07, 06:22 AM
I just got a space to grow after 8 months of waiting. :bump:my space is
2'x4'x7' I made this thread so I can post links to the things I am planing on buying and you can check them out and let me know what you think.

ps. I live in U.S. so its a bitch to find grow equip.. :/

Light - http://htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=47929

venting - http://www.insidesun.com/store.php?cmd=view&dpid=4fefed593c988c15445f7774c6cff534&iid=afcfa1fbe92df6d8ca96bd6381621b2a&PHPSESSID=877147a3034389ee5f937322b4a0bd42 Do you think this fan would be enough to vent my closet.. even with carbon filter? :/ any idea what size I need?

Midnight Toker
16-08-07, 09:02 AM
Hiya M8,

Provided you ensure an adequate fresh air supply you shouldn't have too many problems with that lot in your setup.

HPS do give off a lot of heat so it's really important.

How many plants do you intend growing in that space ??, cos if you're only doing a small grow, say 2-3 plants you might be better off going for a 250w instead of the 400w in such a narrow space ... but there's always a trade off, less watts = less lumens = less bud .. but you will generate a lot less heat.

I have 2 x 100mm passive air intakes in my growroom, one on either side near the bottom of the room to ensure an even airflow ... it works nicely but some prefer to have a second, smaller fan for air intake, i dont think you'll need to go that far though.

Keep asking questions until you're happy you know what you want & how you want to do it M8, a few extra questions now can save you money a little further down the line ;)

greengiant
16-08-07, 11:21 AM
Looks good to me.

For some bizzare reason I can't see the fan as my work computer thinks its related to drugs or something.

Strange since I'm on here all the time.

Growz
16-08-07, 11:41 AM
Looks good to me.

For some bizzare reason I can't see the fan as my work computer thinks its related to drugs or something.

Strange since I'm on here all the time.

see if you open the command prompt m8 then type

Ping www.thctalk.com (https://www.thctalk.com) (press enter)

you will get the ip address then when you put the ip address into the browser it wont block anything thats what i used to do when i was on guard at buckingham palce because the computers in the guard room are blocked for certain things but that gets around it

;)

mattdps2
16-08-07, 01:14 PM
I was thinking about going for the 250w but today will be my first time seeing this closet and those measuments came off the top of my best friends head when I asked him. I find it hard to beleave that a closet would only be 2' deep.

Oh and I was asking my self what strain to do... I think im doing hashberry but if you guys have any sugestions i will check them out. I was going to do ww but i figured it was to unoriginal for my first grow :)

Mr-Dynamic
16-08-07, 01:26 PM
A 250w should be adequate for a small closet/wardrobe style space, they give off less heat than a 400w, so it will be more manageable, i expect its fairly warm in Maine this time of year, so even with a carbon filter and extraction you may still struggle slightly with the temperatures using a 400w. The 250w i use gives a nice range of temps from 24c-28c in that little wardrobe, and weve had another shit summer so luckily, even when its been hot here its not gone over 29c. have a look at my diary if you havent yet, its not the best example, but you should get some idea of what a 250w will produce, although, if you can stretch to a 400w and cope with the temps with a good extraction setup, you'll have some excellent results i think ;) my advice on that would be try the 250w first, and after your first or second grow, get a 400w, you'll be more clued up and your first attempt wont end up like mind did. (fried cannabis plant anyone?)

Midnight Toker
16-08-07, 01:50 PM
Hashberry's a lovely smoke & smells like berry heaven if it's nicely cured M8, you could do a lot worse.

I dont think they're the quickest finishing strain in the world though.

mattdps2
16-08-07, 02:03 PM
I think im going to stick with the 400w but if that 4" fan wont be enough what about http://www.insidesun.com/store.php?cmd=view&dpid=4fefed593c988c15445f7774c6cff534&iid=4fe300044cf4918ea309e57cf5206ef7 its the same thing just a 6" I would like to go for the 4" but if I cant then hey what can you do lol

mattdps2
16-08-07, 02:13 PM
thanks for the help midnight :) I realy want a quick finishing strain... got any ideas ...

Midnight Toker
16-08-07, 02:19 PM
thanks for the help midnight :) I realy want a quick finishing strain... got any ideas ...

Well i hate to sound like an AK48 bore :thefinger:, but they really do give great value for money & finish as quickly as anything else you'll find on the market.

My last lot went 12/12 from seed & were finished in 10 weeks ... I dont think you're gonna get quicker than that

I am biased as these were my 1st grow & gave me a lovely return for a little investment but i swear by them.

However my next grow will be something completely different, Hashberry, Satori & Fat russians ;)

And the one after that will be an exclusively crazy x seeds grow ... Malonic, Stinkies & Lavender G13Haze x Chronic :joint: :Nice:

mattdps2
17-08-07, 01:55 AM
I was looking at the ak48 and it looks like exactly what I need. I was woundering how big should I let it veg before flower?

room is 2x4x7 10 plants to start and then take out the males

Midnight Toker
17-08-07, 08:29 AM
I was looking at the ak48 and it looks like exactly what I need. I was woundering how big should I let it veg before flower?

room is 2x4x7 10 plants to start and then take out the males


Well that's up to you M8, depends how big you want em to get.

My last grow went 12/12 from seed & still got to @ 1.3 mtrs over the 10 weeks they were under lights.

But you do seem to have a bit more headroom than i have so it wouldn't hurt to veg for a few weeks before switching to 12/12.

As a rule (due to said lack of headroom) mine go 12/12 from seed & take @ 3 weeks to show sex, by this time they have always reached a very reasonable & manageable size. i use 5" pots for the first 2 weeks then pot up to 11ltr pots & they stay in that until the finish.

they stretch for at least 3-4 weeks after switching to 12/12 so you need to take that into account.

One last thing, the 1st lot i did were Nirvana WW's & AK48's & from the 10 i germed i only got one female :jawdrop: which was a bit of a fluke .. luckily i had a better male/female ratio on the 2nd run, so Nirvana has redeemed itself in my eye's

Hope that helps.

MT.

mattdps2
17-08-07, 01:13 PM
how many females did you have second time around? and do you think I can get 2 oz off each plant with a few weeks veg time?

asci
17-08-07, 01:33 PM
white russian / ak47 would be my starter-uper mate. They finish well, flower while covered in crystals, and the female to male ratio is excellent...

mattdps2
17-08-07, 01:40 PM
what are tyhe differences between ak47 and ak48

Bitterfly
17-08-07, 01:52 PM
what are tyhe differences between ak47 and ak48

ak48 is the inferior nirvana version, not to be confused with the delicious serious seeds ak47, the original and best :D


how close the genetics are though i really have no idea, althoguh i would like to know.

having said that, ive grown ak48 before and althoguh it was in far from optimal conditions, it was still pretty sweet!

Midnight Toker
17-08-07, 01:52 PM
AK48 is AK47 x white widow.

The difference is in the price, the serious seeds ak47 will set you back @ £50 the Nirvana AK48 @ £14-15.

I've done a total of 8 AK48's over 2 grows & it's come out at 50/50 males to female so that's a pretty standard m/f ratio.

The White widows however are trailing 6m/2f .... and i have 2 of each left for another time ...

mattdps2
17-08-07, 01:57 PM
hmm I wanted to go with 47 just because I dont like knock offs but im cheap as fuck so idk

Bitterfly
17-08-07, 02:03 PM
hmm I wanted to go with 47 just because I dont like knock offs but im cheap as fuck so idk

mate, id cut back on something (like beer, i dunno) to get the ak47. ive heard nothing but praise for serious seeds, is the extra 40 quid not worth it for the peace of mind??

Midnight Toker
17-08-07, 02:05 PM
hmm I wanted to go with 47 just because I dont like knock offs but im cheap as fuck so idk


Well you pays yer money & makes your choice ...

All i know is that i've been chuffed with the AK48, I'm still smoking it now & prob will have enough for another 3 months+ & i aint bought no weed for months, so for a tenner a pack (i got them before they hiked prices a couple of months ago) i definately got my money's worth.

Oh, and i've given away @ 75gms of the stuff to friends & acquaintances & they've all had nothing but good things to say about it ..

On the other hand, i wont be using Nirvana white widow again as they have been quite disappointing.

Your money, your shout dude !

Jameo
17-08-07, 02:36 PM
ak48 is the inferior nirvana version, not to be confused with the delicious serious seeds ak47, the original and best :D


how close the genetics are though i really have no idea, althoguh i would like to know.

having said that, ive grown ak48 before and althoguh it was in far from optimal conditions, it was still pretty sweet!


I'm growing ak47 at the mo mate, for your first grow i'd go with the ak48, and then go for better genetics after that.

Bitter, if you'd like to have a couple of grams of AK47 to compare, i'll glady send you a sample when my grows done and cured

Bitterfly
17-08-07, 02:58 PM
I'm growing ak47 at the mo mate, for your first grow i'd go with the ak48, and then go for better genetics after that.

Bitter, if you'd like to have a couple of grams of AK47 to compare, i'll glady send you a sample when my grows done and cured


wow, thats fukin generous mate.......


i dont really know what to say....:p

Jameo
17-08-07, 05:13 PM
must have just caught me after a poker win ;)

Midnight Toker
18-08-07, 12:37 AM
Here's a pic of my 1st AK48, good ole Big Mamma (R.I.P)

This was taken 3 days before the chop.


https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/1064.JPG


Got just over 9oz wet, @ 2 1/2 dry if i remember rightly. Not bad for a first attempt I'd say.

mattdps2
18-08-07, 02:37 AM
that convinced me that ak48 with 1 month veg under 400w with 6 females is the best way for me... my room will be done in 3 weeks because of money but then comes the gro :)

Midnight Toker
18-08-07, 10:12 AM
that convinced me that ak48 with 1 month veg under 400w with 6 females is the best way for me... my room will be done in 3 weeks because of money but then comes the gro :)

You wont be disappointed M8, that baby had 3 weeks veg under a 200w enviro then under the 600w hps to flower.


Look forward to seeing your grow.

mattdps2
20-08-07, 04:44 PM
well just to update I will be sending the money order tomarow for the light :)

I was having trouble finding where to send it but I found a place... then I will buy the fan (http://www.insidesun.com/store.php?cmd=view&dpid=4fefed593c988c15445f7774c6 cff534&iid=afcfa1fbe92df6d8ca96bd6381621b2a&PHPSES SID=877147a3034389ee5f937322b4a0bd42 then I can finaly grow