Busted!

[smiffyuk2003]

Well, I have been busted with too many! blue cheese, 4 days before chop.
And all because of a fire they needed to check it had not spread to my spot.
Caught by default is the worst.
Either way I found out and handed myself in. Spent 8 hours in cells and came away with a caution and it does not go on my records.
Result.

[Germanator]

not bad exspecially with more than 10 plants tut tut, stayed out of the system lucky for you

[GoTgReEn]

Yeah mate lucky boy indeed! Result! :-D

[stephen07]

I'd say that's a result , shame about the plants tho :(


https://www.thctalk.com/cannabis-forum/showthread.php?96148-Stephens-2nd-multi-strain-grow-in-dirt-)

[Crashbandit]

Well, I have been busted with too many blue cheese, 4 days before chop.
And all because of a fire they needed to check it had not spread to my spot.
Caught by default is the worst.
Either way I found out and handed myself in. Spent 8 hours in cells and came away with a caution and it does not go on my records.
Result.

That's your chance spent be really cautious from now on :( your on the radar

[Master Poet]

SO much for having a 10 plant limit on the forum and you coming on here saying about the way too many you got busted with.


Ban?!

[StonedAsFuck]

i dont think that many plants is personal use :joint:

[Rory Breaker]

SO much for having a 10 plant limit on the forum and you coming on here saying about the 19 you got busted with.


Ban?!

Lol.. almost seems a bit late for that

[StonedAsFuck]

Lol.. almost seems a bit late for that

its never to late :joint:

[StonedAsFuck]

Lol.. almost seems a bit late for that


· We have a 10 plant limit here at THCtalk. Talk of growing more than 10 plants will result in an account restriction/ban.

:boobs::ban:

[Rory Breaker]

· We have a 10 plant limit here at THCtalk. Talk of growing more than 10 plants will result in an account restriction/ban.

:boobs::ban:

Look like you are in for a ban as well then!

[Germanator]

With regards to possession of cannabis, there has been very little change from the current Magistrates Sentencing Guidelines. The starting point for sentencing remains the same, that is, a Band B fine. The sentencing range has changed, previously it was Band A fine (A is lower than a B fine) to 12 weeks custody (this covers sentencing for both small and large possession offences). The new guidelines range from discharge (more lenient than before) to 26 weeks in custody (harsher than before). If someone comes before the court in respect of possession of cannabis for medicinal purposes that would mitigate the sentence, and if there were no other factors could reduce it down from a Band B fine. However, it is still a criminal conviction resulting in a criminal record even with an absolute or conditional discharge.

In terms of cultivation and production of cannabis there does seem to have been real movement, but this is primarily due to the recent guidelines in the Court of Appeal case of R v Auton. This case was decided only last summer and provided much harsher guidelines for sentencing cannabis production cases involving yields of approximately 1 kilo. The guidelines stated that:



Where there is no element of supply the sentence range is likely to be between 9 – 18 months, depending on size of operation and the defendant’s personal circumstances;
Where there is no evidence of commercial supply for profit but there is supply to others the range is likely to be 18 months to 3 years – operation and personal circumstances again relevant;
Where the operation is a commercial one but falls below an industrial operation the range will be 3 to 6 years.


The new guidelines are certainly an improvement on R v Auton and sentencing will be determined through a two-step approach. The first step is to determine the role of the offender and there are three potential categories – lesser role, subordinate role or leading role. The second step is the quantity of drugs involved and there are four categories:



Category 4 – 9 plants (presumed yield 40gram per plant)
Category 3 – 28 plants (presumed yield 40 gram per plant)
Category 2 – operation capable of producing significant quantities for commercial use
Category 1 - operation capable of producing industrial quantities for commercial use


The Court will then consider mitigating/aggravating factors.

In relation to someone who is producing for their own purposes, or even where it is social supply, it is likely they will fall within the ‘lesser role’ category within the new guidelines. In terms of quantity 1kg (25 plants) would fall within category 3. This would lead to a sentencing starting point of a high level community order and a sentencing range of a low level community order to 26 weeks custody, again depending on mitigating and aggravating circumstances. This is definitely an improvement on Auton but there is still a risk of imprisonment especially where there is a previous conviction.

Where someone was growing a lesser quantity (9 plants) and falls within the lesser role the guidance suggests a starting point of Band C fine, with a sentencing range of a discharge through to a medium level community order. This would then be increased/decreased through aggravating and mitigating factors. Frankly, this is only a slight departure from current Magistrates guidelines which state that the starting point for small scale cultivation is a Band C fine and the range is Band B fine to low level community order.

So overall, whilst we are pleased that our advice has been followed to some degree and has impacted on other areas of sentencing, the general approach to cannabis offences has not shifted a huge amount, and cannabis activists should be aware that the offences remain criminal, and so can result in a criminal conviction. There is also no evidence to suggest that the police will de-prioritise the policing of cannabis cultivation.

Fine Bands

Fine A – Starting point 50% of relevant weekly income; Category range 25% - 75% of relevant weekly income
Fine B – Starting point 100% of relevant weekly income; Category range 75% - 125% of relevant weekly income
Fine C – Starting point 150% of relevant weekly income; Category range 125% - 175% of relevant weekly income


thought u mind needed reminding

[wal]

+1 2nd chance

[Master Poet]

Shocking Editing by the powers that be!

If this were the real world someone would be arrested for that!

[Goodbuddy]

Someone's been very lucky on more than one count today :(