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Dirty_badger
25-01-16, 09:25 PM
My first grow using ionic nutes and a modded Wilma so why not be mentored by the one and only Jesse Pinkman.

Custom built loft groom with the following equipment:-

Soldigital 600w adjustable balasts
600w MH for veg
600w HPS for flower
Green Power Contactor (6 outputs)
Mantis Pro reflectors
8" rvk extract fan with rhino pro filter
6" rvk intake fan
SMSCOM Hybrid Controller
Essentials pH mete
Bluelab EC Truncheon
Hailea 150a chiller
Humidifier
Numerous fans for circulation

Nutes:-

Ionic Grow
Ionic Bloom
Ionic Silicon
Ionic PK 14/15

Canna Rhizotonic

I've got 3 Dr Kriplings Incredible Bulk from seed and 3 chronic cheese cuts.

Gotta do some modding of the Wilma and a few bits in the groom then I'll have some pics up :)

Cheers for stopping by dirty_badger

Dirty_badger
26-01-16, 07:54 PM
Quick pic of my 3 Dr Kriplings incredible bulk http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160126/7a764bfbe8d2e98014fe920fb98287ff.jpg

Jesse Pinkman
26-01-16, 09:36 PM
Right mate is your groom all cleaned down and shit? Lets have a gander at what weve got to play with :D

Dirty_badger
26-01-16, 09:43 PM
No dude not yet, still drying my last run. It'll all be ready by Sunday I'm hoping.

Dirty_badger
26-01-16, 10:00 PM
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My top trays have a lot of profiles on them :/ dunno how I'll get the kingspan to sit flat

Jesse Pinkman
26-01-16, 11:01 PM
Will be fine mate, that lip deffo 50mm? Looks abit less than that.

Doesnt matter if the kingspan sits abit higher as long as you get it sturdy on there, have you got a holesaw to cut the holes out for ur netpots in the plastic tray? Or u gonna cut em out with a dremil or summat?

Dirty_badger
26-01-16, 11:06 PM
Think I'm gonna fuck the top trays off dude and make a wooden frame that holds the kingspan.

My top trays over hang either side of the res by quite a bit. I'll sort it out don't worry. Might not even use the kingspan but I'll get something that supports the net pots.

Jesse Pinkman
26-01-16, 11:31 PM
If u are using/making something else just make sure its a nice toght seal as you dont want the bubbles flicking over the edge of the res. If you do make wodden frames might be a idea to wrap em in black out so they dont go moldy and shit

That top tray should be ok to work with mate id just use that.

Dirty_badger
26-01-16, 11:42 PM
I'll have a play around tomorrow after work dude.

I was thinking a 2x2 frame with 6mm ply then wrap the whole thing in white polly.

Jesse Pinkman
27-01-16, 12:48 AM
I'll have a play around tomorrow after work dude.

I was thinking a 2x2 frame with 6mm ply then wrap the whole thing in white polly.

Yeah that would work, maybe worth going a few mill thicker on the ply though possibly 10mm, just give that extra bit of strength to take the weight :)

Sounds like a plan dude

Dirty_badger
27-01-16, 07:54 AM
Yeah man I'll see what I can source from work today :) how much water would you have in the res? I'm gonna have to fill it up tonight to see where the water level sits and then go from there.

Jesse Pinkman
27-01-16, 09:26 AM
As much as possible tbh mate. The more water the better, creates more stable res

Dirty_badger
27-01-16, 09:29 AM
I think on paper it holds 140L but I'm not sure. I've sourced/stole a 8'x4' sheet of half inch ply so we are onto a winner already.

Dazmandaz
27-01-16, 09:34 AM
subbing up for this ;)

ill be watching this very keenly ,i have just got a wilma 4 and in middle of doing my first grow in one and would love to do this next.

good luck badger ;) :joint:

Dirty_badger
27-01-16, 10:19 AM
It'll be my first grow in a DWC system.

I've done 2 previous grows, 1 being in a standard Wilma big 4 and the other in the Wilma big 8

Hobbit
27-01-16, 10:40 AM
Im really keen on this style of grow mate as ive followed a couple of Jesse grows. Could you put a few more pics of the system for us? cheers mate subbed.

Dirty_badger
27-01-16, 10:58 AM
Yeah dude I'm gonna do some step by step as I'm making it :)

Dirty_badger
27-01-16, 09:48 PM
Does everything seem ok with these? First time I've gone from seed. A bit worried about the smaller one of the three.

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Cheers

Dirty_badger
27-01-16, 11:18 PM
Here's where I'm at so far with modding the Wilma. Let me know what you think :) http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160127/fef56a881c7d925b13cc875da2a8f637.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160127/655103b9fcb9f77916c4154553d7f661.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160127/3ac24298c74ca13784235f39528f19f4.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160127/07608ce6a3b46372230acdcf29bd6e84.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160127/e43d0f4e17709ba1ab8db2cf5f454d7e.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160127/349e5462fca4c7d8d3a8829dd605b0ab.jpg

Jesse Pinkman
28-01-16, 12:27 AM
Fuckin hell you been a busy boy eh badger! Nice job dude,strange layout on the pots you would of probably been better loosing the one closest to the inspection bit and spreading out the 5 more, only beef i can see is that closest ones root mass is probably gonna get in ur way and do your fucking head in few weeks into the grow trust me.

See how it goes though dude can always mix things about next run anyway, if we run into any issues try our best to resolve them as we go along.

Is that a drain hole youve placed in bottom of tray?

Jesse Pinkman
28-01-16, 12:27 AM
Seedlings look ok aswel bro so dont worry just dont give em no food at all at this stage

Dirty_badger
28-01-16, 12:29 AM
Yeah dude its a drain hole, I'm gonna build a stand kinda thing so it's raised up and then have my pumps suspended underneath :)

Dazmandaz
28-01-16, 12:58 AM
great bit of handy work badger ;) :joint:

Dirty_badger
28-01-16, 12:59 AM
Cheers dude. Just need to get it finished off now :)

Dirty_badger
28-01-16, 10:24 PM
Seedlings look ok aswel bro so dont worry just dont give em no food at all at this stage

How long until you think they'll be ready for the system?

Dirty_badger
02-02-16, 08:20 AM
Groom will be pretty much finished tonight :)

Jesse Pinkman
02-02-16, 05:10 PM
How long until you think they'll be ready for the system?

As soon as you can mate realy, any roots out the cubes yet?

Dirty_badger
02-02-16, 05:17 PM
There's a few little ones dude. Nothing major.

Dirty_badger
02-02-16, 05:21 PM
What we saying to make the first mix at dude? I'll get it made tonight ready to put them in tomorrow :) background is 0.3

Jesse Pinkman
02-02-16, 09:27 PM
What we saying to make the first mix at dude? I'll get it made tonight ready to put them in tomorrow :) background is 0.3

Ok fill res up to about inch below where ur net pots will sit and get it bubbling away. Set chiller up aswel bro so its all live and kicking.

Have you got a seperate tank where you store the water prior to adding it to system or do u just add it in straight from the tap?

Dirty_badger
02-02-16, 10:08 PM
I've got a flexi tank dude I fill that up first and then make the mix in it, leave it to stand for 24hours then transfer it into the res.

Dirty_badger
02-02-16, 10:10 PM
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Jesse Pinkman
02-02-16, 10:58 PM
Looking sweet, liking the look of that bro. Whats the crack with the mods uve made then mate?

Where is chiller pump? Can see it goes into system near the back, is that the return from chiller waterfalling back into res?

Is that the chiller pump at bottom, with valves either side it? Then u isolate the valves and dump the water out res somehow?

Jesse Pinkman
02-02-16, 10:59 PM
I've got a flexi tank dude I fill that up first and then make the mix in it, leave it to stand for 24hours then transfer it into the res.

Dont bother mixing nutes in that flexi tank bro. Just use that to store water in few days before changes to take the chlorine out.

Fill res with that and add nutes directly into res instead

Jesse Pinkman
02-02-16, 11:01 PM
Lets have a look at the puppies as well dude so we can decide what to give em. Have you washed out all the clay pebbles you'll be using?

Dirty_badger
02-02-16, 11:03 PM
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That's the chiller pump and the waste pump. Closing the tap on the right and opening the one on the left sends it to the chiller. Swap em over and it goes to waste :)

Dirty_badger
02-02-16, 11:04 PM
Lets have a look at the puppies as well dude so we can decide what to give em. Have you washed out all the clay pebbles you'll be using?

Yeah dude pebbles are washed out, I'll have to get a pic of the seedlings in the morning dude.

Hobbit
02-02-16, 11:07 PM
Looking the nuts so far Badger. A couple of questions. First i think is the same as Jesse. That blck pump conected to your chiller lines is for what? Are you going to run 2 x 600,s over that. This system is a bit like a big oxypot???
How large is that res mate? And finally when it comes to oxygenating the res are you working on a formula for dissolved oxygen to res size?
The reason im asking is im not quite getting the results in the root system dept in my current system and would be really easy to modify what i have to what your doing.
Cheers mate.

Dirty_badger
02-02-16, 11:12 PM
Looking the nuts so far Badger. A couple of questions. First i think is the same as Jesse. That blck pump conected to your chiller lines is for what? Are you going to run 2 x 600,s over that. This system is a bit like a big oxypot???
How large is that res mate? And finally when it comes to oxygenating the res are you working on a formula for dissolved oxygen to res size?
The reason im asking is im not quite getting the results in the root system dept in my current system and would be really easy to modify what i have to what your doing.
Cheers mate.

The res holds 90/100L but that's brimming it, 75/80L sits nicely below my net pots. I've got the 60L per min air pump so it's not far off a 1:1 ratio.

I've not seen the oxy pots dude, yes there's 2 600w above it.

The pump feeds the chiller and can also be used to dump the res to waste if needs be.

Hope that answered everything dude

Hobbit
02-02-16, 11:14 PM
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That's the chiller pump and the waste pump. Closing the tap on the right and opening the one on the left sends it to the chiller. Swap em over and it goes to waste :)

Im still not quite getting that black pump. should it not be submerged?

Dirty_badger
02-02-16, 11:15 PM
There's a hole in the bottom of my tank dude which goes into the inlet part of the pump on the front.

Hobbit
02-02-16, 11:18 PM
Thanks mate wasnt sure as ive not seen a pump like this one, mine are submersible only.

Dirty_badger
02-02-16, 11:19 PM
Ahh ok then dude, it's a Hailea pump. Can be used in both ways.

Hobbit
02-02-16, 11:20 PM
Cheers Badger really keen to see how you trot on this one. You got the right man behind you for sure. Good luk mate.

Dirty_badger
02-02-16, 11:22 PM
Cheers dude :) I'm hoping to smash it

Dirty_badger
03-02-16, 08:15 AM
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Jesse Pinkman
03-02-16, 03:24 PM
There's a hole in the bottom of my tank dude which goes into the inlet part of the pump on the front.

Ok sweet i understnad whats going on now :)


Yeah dude pebbles are washed out, I'll have to get a pic of the seedlings in the morning dude.

Nice one just saves the shit off em collecting in ur res and restricting tubes ect :)


Im still not quite getting that black pump. should it not be submerged?

Some pumps are submersable only and some can be used externally as long as you prime them with water first.


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Ok bro get system filled to inch below pots and fire airstones up.

Add silcon at 1/2 ml per litre first give it a good run through system make sure its properly mixed up then set ph to 7 to buffer the silicon in.
Pop back in 10 mins later then add ur rhizo at same dose of 1/2 ml per litre, same again give 5 or mins to mix around. Then take ec up to around 0.7 with your grow nutes.
Allow to mix and reset PH to 5.7

Get the seedling cubes into net pots so the top of the cubes is same hight as top layer of pebbles then just drop a few pebbles over the tops of cubes.

Now the airstones will be soaking the base of all your netpots hopefully and encouraging roots to drop. However you will need to hand feed couple of times spread throughout the day to make sure ur cubes and tiny roots dont overdry.

Ive got a 20ml syringe i use for doing this so i can assure all netpots have had same amount of water just spray 20ml of water out ur res around the clay pebbs, doesnt have to be a syring i just use that could be a cup or anything.

One watering in morning and one in afternoon should do.

If u have some of your blackout sheet left over make some covers for the top of netpots to sit over the pebbles. Cut a little line down em and slide em over. This just helps keeping the moisture in the netpots and prevents ur lights drying them out to quickly. Will just require more hand watering if you dont make and use them.

Like i done here mate:


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And get ur lights all fired up of course :) what we running 18/6 ?

Dirty_badger
03-02-16, 03:31 PM
I was gonna run 18/6 yeah dude. I'll crack on with getting them in the system tomorrow because I can't pick my cuts up until after work tomorrow.

I'll get the nutes and everything else running then it's just a case of adding the plants :)

Jesse Pinkman
03-02-16, 03:48 PM
I was gonna run 18/6 yeah dude. I'll crack on with getting them in the system tomorrow because I can't pick my cuts up until after work tomorrow.

I'll get the nutes and everything else running then it's just a case of adding the plants :)

Sweet bro, i always suffer with low humidty at start of grows so always go 18/6 as this gives humidty chance to raise at lights off again.

Ok alls sounding good famalan. Gives the nutes good chance to settle before we go live then.

Your system looks pukka mate done a top job on it :) does your return from chiller terminate above water level at res full to max yeah? Creates extra do rather than having the pipe discharge inside the actual res mix

Only issue i can see us developing in this system is roots blocking/geeting sucked into your drain hole at bottom of res.
Seriously dude get urself prepaired for these roots. Cuz they are gonna go fucking mental in a few weeks. Thats the thing which is most hard to deal with in these systems. As the roots explode and grow so fast it can cause serious issues with equipment and probes in the res.

As long as you are aware of that and can stay on top of it this shit will be plain sailing bro trust me. How close is that drain hole in conjuction with ur netpots? If its directly below one it will be blocked solid few weeks into vegg

Dirty_badger
03-02-16, 03:58 PM
I was thinking of getting some kind of gauze or something that I can place over it to stop it blocking. Other than that I'm pretty fucked haha.

Jesse Pinkman
03-02-16, 04:02 PM
I was thinking of getting some kind of gauze or something that I can place over it to stop it blocking. Other than that I'm pretty fucked haha.

Needs to be like 100 micron or smaller dude they will just punch through shit like crazy though. If it becomes a problem you will have to relocate pump into the res and drop a filter sock over it or summat

Dirty_badger
03-02-16, 04:04 PM
I've also got a humidifier yeah suppose I could do.

Where can I purchase said sock from?

Jesse Pinkman
03-02-16, 05:54 PM
Ebay

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Would probably need the same as me the 7" one to fit ur pump in through it. Id go for the 100micron one aswel

Dirty_badger
03-02-16, 06:00 PM
Sound dude. I'll have a look. Might be able fix one to the drain hole somehow

Dirty_badger
03-02-16, 06:16 PM
Can get a 150 micron sock from my local aquarium place. Will that do?

Dirty_badger
03-02-16, 10:12 PM
Mix is made and bubbling away in the res dude.

Dirty_badger
04-02-16, 04:47 PM
Managed to get a 150 micron filter sock. Gonna cut it and the jubilee clip it over the tank connector on the bottom of the tank :)

Picked my cuts up this morning and they're looking mighty fine. Pics will follow later when I get in then I'll pot them up :)

Dirty_badger
04-02-16, 07:50 PM
They are finally in the system. One of the little seedlings is looking a little worse for wear though. Major transplant shock.

Here's some pics. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160204/88698de28072242730560c37e2e69684.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160204/c5e963d112d4738ff004aa4d71b1ccb4.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160204/8ddf6e593198ad1a8f36e14174b66da0.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160204/fb87111eb848ce19fbeb9f3d6e98f20d.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160204/2d3fa14522dc3c4aca7d9dbb87070605.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160204/592dc50902d4de10a1ad7f779476d2f5.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160204/e0200ef223e502124ab5629beda2575b.jpg

Dirty_badger
05-02-16, 08:05 AM
I've knocked my lights down to 250w as the temps are over 30 for some reason, first time using MH and wow do they run hot.

Dazmandaz
05-02-16, 10:46 AM
looking awsome badger ;) :joint:

Jesse Pinkman
05-02-16, 02:30 PM
Looks like a operating theatre in there! Very nice. Fuck me sounds like uve got temp probs then dude. Yeah doesnt need to be on full pelt yet anyway thats just a waste.

Nice job on the covers, just keep em moist with a coupke of handwaterings daily. As soon as roots drop they will be growing before ur eyes dude

Dirty_badger
05-02-16, 02:52 PM
Yeah dude I've been giving them 20ml of water each twice a day. Roughly 12 hours apart.

Dunno what else I can do for my temps. Suppose I could get my cool hoods back up?

Jesse Pinkman
05-02-16, 08:19 PM
Even with ur 8" rvk u cant keep temps in control? Grooms insulated aint it? Would of thought in ur loft u would be strugglin with low temps this weather not the other way round. Where are you extracting to and sucking air in from mate?

Dirty_badger
05-02-16, 08:23 PM
Sucking in from in the loft and out through a hole in the wall dude. I've got em on 400w each now and temps are at 22ish.

Dirty_badger
07-02-16, 09:31 AM
Everything seems to be going ok.

Lights on temps 26°C
Lights off temps 20/21°C

Giving each plant 20ml of nute solution in the morning then again in the evening.

I'll try and get some more pics later on

Jesse Pinkman
07-02-16, 01:07 PM
Everything seems to be going ok.

Lights on temps 26°C
Lights off temps 20/21°C

Giving each plant 20ml of nute solution in the morning then again in the evening.

I'll try and get some more pics later on

All sounding good. Gonna be a struggle when u fire up to 600w aint it then badger.

Hope theybare settling in well

Dirty_badger
07-02-16, 01:13 PM
I know ahh yeah :/ hopefully the HPS bulbs run a little cooler than these MH's

Dirty_badger
08-02-16, 10:18 PM
Not really much to report yet http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160208/87228878e70911a75512d8923562ab42.jpg

Got the temps dialled in now though.

BHOmb
11-02-16, 05:42 AM
Love the setup it's nice and neat.

Dirty_badger
11-02-16, 01:46 PM
Love the setup it's nice and neat.

Cheers dude :)

Dirty_badger
11-02-16, 04:38 PM
They've been in the system for a week now. Do I need to drop the res out Mr P or am I ok to leave it?

Jesse Pinkman
12-02-16, 02:19 AM
They've been in the system for a week now. Do I need to drop the res out Mr P or am I ok to leave it?

Nah leave it dude. Whats the res sayin, been pretty stable other than ph rising yeah?

How we looking on the root front, any signs yet?

Dirty_badger
12-02-16, 02:26 AM
pH had risen by 0.1 when I checked last night and the EC hasn't budged.

Roots are just out of the net pots now

Need to sort my air pump out though, air stones keep squealing like mad. Think it's because I have them suspended and they are working lose on the tubing.

Jesse Pinkman
12-02-16, 10:59 PM
Everythings going to plan then badger :) keep doing what ur doing and we'll wait for some more root growth and drop a res change on em

Dirty_badger
12-02-16, 11:06 PM
Yeah man I'm gonna get some pics tomorrow as I'm off work :) need some names for them as well.

The cuts probably aren't far off needing topping as well.

Dirty_badger
13-02-16, 09:59 PM
Might have powdery mildew in my tent :/

Jesse Pinkman
13-02-16, 10:04 PM
Powdery mildrew????? Wtf is causing that mate, humidifier possibly. Bet some shots up mage so we can have a look. Doesnt sound good though

Dirty_badger
13-02-16, 10:10 PM
My plants don't seem to have anything on them but there's a white chalky substance on the wires in my groom and on the floor. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160213/3410ac8ddb61ba0e6f5ac6ce56c0199f.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160213/81dd61b3d831dc5c13f1a19d1adb17e2.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160213/45b65d19d72b990549cc42a17f5e1340.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160213/9fb7ab3000a51adffb40b8fe28b7f9d4.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160213/f637b19e115a20fc2e2846e1b55e39b8.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160213/9c54cdb3e6d6b2011519dd8880df3e31.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160213/8dec3cf54914044956c243ec364c1080.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160213/e2f119620071ad8b28ac4762f2121eab.jpg

Jesse Pinkman
13-02-16, 11:34 PM
Ok thats deffo ur humidifier dude. Looks like calcium stains out the water. If u was using reverse osmosis in u probably wouldnt be getting it

Dirty_badger
13-02-16, 11:37 PM
Oh sweet then. Nothing to worry about?

Jesse Pinkman
13-02-16, 11:39 PM
Oh sweet then. Nothing to worry about?

Nah bro i get it in my res in my loft, on my airline tubes to airstones and pumps ect. Its fuck all to worry about other than looking messy dude. Dont get it with my RO system. Just give it all a good clean down after grow

I dont use humidifiers so never get out on walls ect. Use RO water in ur humidifier if it bothers u dude

Dirty_badger
13-02-16, 11:41 PM
I've not got an RO filter :/

Jesse Pinkman
13-02-16, 11:45 PM
Dont worry u dont need one either with a background of 0.4

Once the plants get a few weeks down the line u wont need to run ur humidifier anyway because the plants will transpire and it will sort itself out. Id just stick with it for the next couple of weeks then knock it on the head and give everything a good clean down. Got groom OCD like me aint ya :)

Dirty_badger
13-02-16, 11:48 PM
Yeah man it's blagging my head 🙃 it didn't happen last run. Background is 0.3 dude.

Dirty_badger
13-02-16, 11:52 PM
We've got roots in the res now as well dude

Jesse Pinkman
13-02-16, 11:58 PM
Didnt happen last run? Thants weird but thats deffo whats causing it mate id bet my left bollock on it.

Roots in res.... Epic. Give em a day or two more and we'll res change bro

Dirty_badger
13-02-16, 11:59 PM
Yeah man. Tuesday is good for me :)

Yeah I ran a humidifier last run but it didn't happen :/

Hobbit
15-02-16, 12:12 PM
Looking good mate, really keen to see this go boom. Some top tips your getting there as well mate. Should be an awesome diary.

Dirty_badger
15-02-16, 12:59 PM
Looking good mate, really keen to see this go boom. Some top tips your getting there as well mate. Should be an awesome diary.

Cheers dude, pull up a chair and enjoy the ride :)

Dirty_badger
16-02-16, 06:39 PM
Evening all, it's time to drop the res out tonight and stick a fresh mix in. I'll get some more pics up for you all in a bit once I've been up to the girls.

Dirty_badger
16-02-16, 07:41 PM
What shall I set the EC to Mr P?

Jesse Pinkman
16-02-16, 10:01 PM
Sorry mate gimme 5

Jesse Pinkman
16-02-16, 10:03 PM
Ok stick to around the 0.8 mark looking at them on ur last update.
1ml per litre of silicon
1ml per litre of rhizo

And make rest up with grow

As before add silicon first then ph to 7. Leave on this for 10 mins then add the rest

Dirty_badger
16-02-16, 10:05 PM
No worries dude :) here's some pics for the mean time

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160216/ac1a41eb95be6430e924200a22ab51aa.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160216/7a8717439a325c54d4d521f7e3af4231.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160216/b54b774bc7905d3c14c2ecf6fa98cec6.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160216/d670d344124ddab4567d5214c4f98fa0.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160216/32a95acbf34adada02c79fde50bdc9cf.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160216/df9810b61e9c1d75eb9882f7e6316c2a.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160216/bda9f71f71e0d583969a541087428797.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160216/791c14f285c935110991d809d91e51af.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160216/306a13be02d39ee55a4fd3a02dc903d8.jpg

Dirty_badger
16-02-16, 10:06 PM
Ok stick to around the 0.8 mark looking at them on ur last update.
1ml per litre of silicon
1ml per litre of rhizo

And make rest up with grow

As before add silicon first then ph to 7. Leave on this for 10 mins then add the rest

I'll get it made up tomorrow dude, waters been standing for 24 hours now.

Dirty_badger
17-02-16, 07:00 PM
Res change complete.

13 days in the system.

Silicon 70ml
Rhizo 70ml
Grow 100ml

EC 0.8 (background 0.3)
pH 5.5

Dirty_badger
17-02-16, 07:22 PM
I lied pH was 5.7

Dirty_badger
17-02-16, 07:23 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160217/fdf16466dced2eb0ba5b54ab13c8b061.jpg

Decided this grow I'm actually gonna keep a hand written diary as well :)

Jesse Pinkman
17-02-16, 08:09 PM
Looking sweet dude, while they are so young and with small roots swap the plants around daily for the next week or so. Good call on the diary

Dirty_badger
17-02-16, 08:24 PM
Yeah dude I will do

Dirty_badger
19-02-16, 01:53 PM
What's the rough date of chop down dude? Need get a holiday books and don't want it over lap.

Jesse Pinkman
19-02-16, 06:29 PM
:laugh: fuckin hell dunno mate. Ur growing in a system uve never grown in before, with different strains so its fuckin impossible to predict chop day now dude.

Best thing u can do just allow urself enough time so its not a issue. Shouldnt be a long vegg with these though dude

Now the roots are down they will start growing fast, when u start to top up dropping water level during the week just add more grow to get ur EC back to where it needs to be. Try and keep the ph inbetween 5.5 - 6.2 as per

Dirty_badger
19-02-16, 06:31 PM
So don't put more Silicon or Rhizo in then dude?

Yeah I've allowed plenty of time dude :) plus got a good friend on standby to step in when I'm away if needs be.

Jesse Pinkman
19-02-16, 08:54 PM
So don't put more Silicon or Rhizo in then dude?

Yeah I've allowed plenty of time dude :) plus got a good friend on standby to step in when I'm away if needs be.

Sound then mate should be fine :)

Nah mate if or when the ec does start dropping with water top ups just give it grow only to make it back up. Only use the other two at start of week or use the silicon as a ph up if need be :)

Dirty_badger
19-02-16, 08:58 PM
Oh sweet then. What's the reasoning behind this?

Last run I used to make like a 20l mix at the same strength and put that in.

Hobbit
19-02-16, 10:06 PM
Sound then mate should be fine :)

Nah mate if or when the ec does start dropping with water top ups just give it grow only to make it back up. Only use the other two at start of week or use the silicon as a ph up if need be :)

This is a question i often asked myself , couldnt seem to get an answer b4. You do weekly res changes dont you Jesse. Looking spot on Badger. I hope you dont have problems with diff strains in the system. My last one I had 3 strains was a bit tricky. Roots are looking tip top should get manic soon boys.

Dirty_badger
19-02-16, 10:08 PM
How come you had problems dude?

Dirty_badger
20-02-16, 11:59 PM
Few pics of my clones
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160220/f7d0c784f4dc466d03b7fa3fb6655651.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160220/ef1aacf6abe0a7f81729f3f7bc0ff274.jpg
Are these ready to be topped?

Hobbit
21-02-16, 04:35 AM
How come you had problems dude?

They had different feed requirements mate was a bit tricky trying to keep them all happy.

Dirty_badger
21-02-16, 07:46 PM
So this happened http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160221/5e51b7274b8dee366a2f4dc7fc220242.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160221/3c36a2a96cd73e8a1d264de31fa61b96.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160221/25b89ba5284cc2d7158cb4f17962a2f0.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160221/e677b5ae4fe13a5e0bcb9c9db4385d10.jpg

Jesse Pinkman
21-02-16, 09:55 PM
Oh sweet then. What's the reasoning behind this?

Last run I used to make like a 20l mix at the same strength and put that in.

You can do that if you wish bro no worrys, i find the amount of silicon and rhizo i give em at the start of the week is more than enough to see em through the week and as they eat i just give em more grow.


So this happened http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160221/5e51b7274b8dee366a2f4dc7fc220242.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160221/3c36a2a96cd73e8a1d264de31fa61b96.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160221/25b89ba5284cc2d7158cb4f17962a2f0.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160221/e677b5ae4fe13a5e0bcb9c9db4385d10.jpg

Bang tidy dude, booming now yeah :) sorry wasnt online yesterday but would of said yeah top the fuckers lol. Gonna be huge in a few weeks dude

Dirty_badger
21-02-16, 09:59 PM
Does it look like I've topped em right this time?

I've only done the clones as I'm not sure the seedlings are ready.

Jesse Pinkman
21-02-16, 11:42 PM
Does it look like I've topped em right this time?

I've only done the clones as I'm not sure the seedlings are ready.

Ha

Yeah looks good to me dude, running three clones and two seedlings yeah? How they gettin on

Dirty_badger
22-02-16, 07:40 AM
3 clones and 3 seedlings dude. I get some more pics later on :)

Dirty_badger
22-02-16, 08:40 AM
Gonna have to get my net built this week. How high above the level of the pots would you set it at?

Jesse Pinkman
22-02-16, 01:44 PM
Gonna have to get my net built this week. How high above the level of the pots would you set it at?

Just enough to give you room to work under mate, depends on headroom aswel. Around 15" is usually ok but like i say just make sure u have enough room to get under for training and so on

Dirty_badger
22-02-16, 02:44 PM
Will do :)

Dirty_badger
22-02-16, 06:46 PM
Undecided on what to make my net out of.

I've got my eye on some wire mesh. It's 50mm squares which is perfect and 0.6 X 0.9m

So I'll only need a few of them to cover the area and I'll be able to use them again.

Failing that it'll be a case of weaving my own again :(

Hobbit
23-02-16, 11:01 AM
Not sure what its called mate but I got plastic mesh same size squares. Should be able to get it from any garden center. Wouldnt mind a few pics of the roots mate if ya get a chance. Ive come across a few negatives here for blokes using wire. Can cut into your plants it seems and harder to work with .

Dirty_badger
23-02-16, 11:21 AM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160223/23e076ff80c4e93d4b01a90fed23188f.jpg
It's not a thin wire and it's pvc coated.

Dirty_badger
23-02-16, 11:26 AM
How much and where did you buy that green plastic mesh from dude?

Jesse Pinkman
23-02-16, 12:59 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160223/23e076ff80c4e93d4b01a90fed23188f.jpg
It's not a thin wire and it's pvc coated.

Looks like the same stuff i use that does. Should work fine

Dirty_badger
23-02-16, 01:02 PM
Just Gotta find a way of supporting it now. I was thinking 2 batons running along the length of the groom and then just sitting them on. Dunno if they will have to be joined in the middle some how.

Dirty_badger
23-02-16, 04:31 PM
Here's a few pics of the seedlings

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160223/bfb1781c578286ca7269d29c9b7ce079.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160223/949b6218fe781996e6f7795938e73243.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160223/497a625061ce02f16607f20fcbe74188.jpg

And a group shot

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160223/348b4e7377e525d569e10f706e991960.jpg

Jesse Pinkman
23-02-16, 08:41 PM
All looking gravy dude

Dirty_badger
23-02-16, 08:55 PM
Yeah boy :) don't think the seedlings are ready to be topped yet though.

Jesse Pinkman
24-02-16, 11:34 AM
Yeah deffo not, wait for a few more nodes :)

Dirty_badger
24-02-16, 11:56 AM
Yeah I'll hang on :)

Hobbit
24-02-16, 10:30 PM
I got it from the our version of house and hardware conglomerate. Its cheap as chips mate. Looks similar to your pic really.

Dirty_badger
25-02-16, 06:07 PM
Res change tonight. We sticking to EC 0.8?

Dirty_badger
25-02-16, 08:38 PM
The net is installed :) it's so much easier with having a door at the back of the groom now. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160225/8eeffd1759b38597cb748d4ad1fac9c2.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160225/5b4ce1c8528c4138a9fde34f710a27e4.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160225/607c54eff25147bb8ed7a5b3f080db32.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160225/6c0d58455623754b0a87e5d3733c34e7.jpg

Jesse Pinkman
25-02-16, 09:55 PM
Lookin sweet bro

Up em to 0.9 now but no higher, we wanna keep em on the side of hunger rather than overfeeding. This Will make em drink more water searchin for food, transpire more and fill that screen quick :)

Looks like they are living the feeding regime dude

Dirty_badger
25-02-16, 10:16 PM
No worries dude. I'll up it tomorrow :) can't be arsed to go back up to them now.

Jesse Pinkman
25-02-16, 11:30 PM
No worries dude. I'll up it tomorrow :) can't be arsed to go back up to them now.

Yeah no worries, just stick to what your doing dude keep swing between 5.6 -6.2

Im gonna be offline all weekend dude so speak to ya next week. If any heads pop through net just let em grow 3 or 4 inches then train the cunts :kill:

Hobbit
26-02-16, 01:16 AM
Looking the nuts Badger, I love a good scrog. How big is that screen mate. I like the look of the reflector your using as well mate looks like you get good coverage with that one. All up mate its a beautiful sight there.

Dirty_badger
26-02-16, 07:17 AM
Yeah no worries, just stick to what your doing dude keep swing between 5.6 -6.2

Im gonna be offline all weekend dude so speak to ya next week. If any heads pop through net just let em grow 3 or 4 inches then train the cunts :kill:

Yeah man I will do :) would you top the clones again at lower nodes or not?

Also how much longer until the seedlings need topping you think?

Dirty_badger
26-02-16, 07:18 AM
Looking the nuts Badger, I love a good scrog. How big is that screen mate. I like the look of the reflector your using as well mate looks like you get good coverage with that one. All up mate its a beautiful sight there.

It's about 1.8 X 1.8m dude. Think the reflectors are called mantis pros.

Dirty_badger
27-02-16, 08:25 PM
Finally managed to drop the res out tonight.

Fresh batch was made up yesterday.

Silicon 70ml
Rhizo 70ml
Grow 120ml

E.C. 0.9
pH 5.6

Jesse Pinkman
01-03-16, 03:37 PM
Back in the land of the living now bro :)

How we doing?

Dirty_badger
01-03-16, 03:40 PM
Things are looking sweet dude. E.C hasn't budged since I dropped the 0.9 mix in :)

Jesse Pinkman
01-03-16, 10:06 PM
Things are looking sweet dude. E.C hasn't budged since I dropped the 0.9 mix in :)

Probably wont much at this stage untill they are drinking loads of water dude. You should have some decent roots down on em all now so very soon will be drinkin like piss heads

Dirty_badger
02-03-16, 07:11 PM
Yeah man things are looking good :)

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160302/6bb4cd8c129fa42d93d51679a94c17fa.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160302/336356644431526b1cba99a64ddcc9e7.jpg

Would you give the clones a topping now dude?

Jesse Pinkman
03-03-16, 02:37 PM
How many nodes they on? If they are on 5 or so yeah topp em dude. I cant tell from pics

Dirty_badger
03-03-16, 02:48 PM
I'll have a check later dude :)

Dirty_badger
04-03-16, 07:23 PM
They were tall enough so I've given them a topping :)

E.C has dropped to 0.8 and pH is slowly rising. First time I've seen either of them budge.

Gonna drop the res tomorrow what should I make the mix to dude?

Jesse Pinkman
04-03-16, 09:22 PM
Set em up on exactly the same as last week not exceeding 0.9 dude, they are responding well to it :)

Hobbit
10-03-16, 09:44 AM
Hows it all going Badger?

Dirty_badger
10-03-16, 09:57 AM
Hows it all going Badger?

Seems to be going orate dude :) I'll get a few pics tonight when I go up to them. They've just reached screen height now

Dirty_badger
10-03-16, 09:08 PM
Everything seems to be running smoothly still.

E.C. 0.9
pH 6.0

Here's a few pics http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160310/42aedd997a8702cadd021673988aeab2.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160310/0c830313228ff3141bac1f65682e022e.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160310/396fc05491ca47d78432cc0608bcd067.jpg

Hobbit
11-03-16, 08:02 AM
Like teacher, like student. Looking bang bloody tidy in there man, coming on a treat now as well. Thats 2x 600 you got in there isnt it? Mon the scrog gives me a woody the old scrog lol. Can you get any root shots up for the vinegar stroke mate? Sure with Jesse beside you they look tip top as well.

Dirty_badger
11-03-16, 08:17 AM
Yeah dude I'll get a couple at the next res change. Now they've hit the screen things will start to get good. It's boring waiting for them to hit it.

Mon the fluff I'm saying

Jesse Pinkman
11-03-16, 01:35 PM
Looking good badger! Its a game of patience now dude, just keep doing what ur doing and training em outwards, once that screens 80% full it will be flip time

Dirty_badger
11-03-16, 01:37 PM
Sweet then dude :)

Dirty_badger
11-03-16, 07:41 PM
Had a little tucking session tonight and taken a few more pics. The root pics will follow on Sunday. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160311/a80ec0a86babfc96b9f833f863bb5814.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160311/321586d340c54cb3cda72332df6a0385.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160311/8bca5ee52a5868b19e256d173eb9198e.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160311/44c6771614abbed60643d55b1e2c1f34.jpg

Dirty_badger
12-03-16, 05:54 PM
Am I keeping things the same with the fresh batch of nutes tomorrow?

Jesse Pinkman
12-03-16, 09:05 PM
Am I keeping things the same with the fresh batch of nutes tomorrow?

Yeah dude roll em the same. You can get away with 7-10 day res changes during veg cuz ur running a chiller dude so hasnt gotta be banged out every 7 days but up to you mate.
Yeah keep em on same EC you dont need to go heavy, esp in vegg, will make em drink more water searchin for food

All going well though dude

Dirty_badger
12-03-16, 09:36 PM
Yeah man things are looking good :)

Jesse Pinkman
12-03-16, 09:50 PM
Yeah man things are looking good :)

How we doing with root mass's? Thats my one and only concern with ur system mate, the buggers blocking up your chiller and dump pipe.

They still well away from it?

Dirty_badger
12-03-16, 10:54 PM
Have no fear, I'm a genius :) (well I hope it works)

100 micron filter sock cut up and jubilee clipped in place
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160312/758c0f58e865046253bb8b1258fbf41d.jpg

Jesse Pinkman
13-03-16, 02:41 AM
Epic dude! Thats what i like to see :D

Those searching roots give me a hard on :mr:

Dirty_badger
13-03-16, 11:01 AM
I'm trying to do a video for you guys now

Dirty_badger
13-03-16, 11:06 AM
Let me know what you think.

https://vimeo.com/158795184

queequeg
13-03-16, 09:29 PM
Nice video and setup you've got there. Plants look great and are growing really fast.

Do you have a heater in your felxi tank outside your groom or does it not get that cold?

Dirty_badger
13-03-16, 09:39 PM
I haven't bothered with one dude. Didn't even know that it would be an issue.

Dirty_badger
15-03-16, 08:24 PM
Just dropped a fresh batch of nutes in and things are looking good.

70L mix

Silicon 70ml (1.0ml per L)
Rhizo 70ml (1.0ml per L)
Grow 120ml (1.7ml per L)

E.C. 0.9
pH 5.7
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160315/71c6dce63e3adc65ad4ed315e5de6376.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160315/e7355737c04d2c3d4cf252b8488941d6.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160315/e4fd2096a39afcd45d872af30aa4a68c.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160315/0f23ed171c6f486236afd93a8f1bc555.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160315/ceb9660a4014474ae861d1b349208f84.jpg

Hobbit
15-03-16, 10:30 PM
Oohh yeah boi, tip bloody top Badger. Loved the soundtrack.

Dirty_badger
15-03-16, 10:37 PM
Oohh yeah boi, tip bloody top Badger. Loved the soundtrack.

Baxter Dury - Picnic on the edge is the song dude. The album it's off is called Happy Soup should have a listen, there's some bangers on it.

You finally got your root pics 😜

Dazmandaz
16-03-16, 11:23 AM
looking good dirty ;) :joint:

Dirty_badger
16-03-16, 11:24 AM
looking good dirty ;) :joint:

Cheers dude :) mon the flip

Jesse Pinkman
16-03-16, 04:20 PM
Looking gold mate, i havnt got no worrys with em, all is going to plan. Nice roots shots :) wont be long before that screen is rammed and its flip time badger :kill:

Dirty_badger
16-03-16, 04:37 PM
Yes yes. I'm estimating 10-12 days and it'll be full

Dirty_badger
20-03-16, 07:47 PM
We sticking to 0.9 for the next res change as well?

Jesse Pinkman
20-03-16, 10:20 PM
Yes mate looking at em that will be fine bro, are you allowing em to grow through mesh a good 3/4 inches before training?

Dirty_badger
20-03-16, 11:10 PM
Yeah man :) I'll get some pics tomorrow

Dirty_badger
21-03-16, 09:21 PM
Just had a good tucking session on the girls. I've snapped a main stem though :( just hope she pulls through.

Before the tuck
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160321/e03e261a3498da5205d9ff00e5175b32.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160321/73f3dd8c639a66b841be22d54510304a.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160321/68e1d7cc5d1ff612cf1519aaa3cc8cd0.jpg

The snapped stem
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160321/f778dfaf2348b18204436450788c0baf.jpg
First aid administered
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160321/1ba51dbeac62d5a4428403f88d8a2829.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160321/3d2697b8c75a2cca320b38304ea08732.jpg

After the tuck
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160321/32bd8ea3241c6f92cf70d513c630f2c5.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160321/c919df105fb5b7ab373cb5546727ff97.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160321/5fc3f03a2c500f2d74bd63ad91238d37.jpg

Fan leaf
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160321/5ef5fe8227e8725ea174fe14a241bdf7.jpg

Jesse Pinkman
21-03-16, 11:23 PM
Lookin the bollocks dude.

You rough bastard snapping the stem :laugh: get a cable toe around it dude and pull it up tight, will work better than that stuff uve put around it, just try and pull it together as best you can. Hopefully she recovers fine and forms a nice big nuckle :D

Dirty_badger
21-03-16, 11:39 PM
I'll get one around it tomorrow dude :)

I know yeah tried to be lazy and tuck it from above :( won't be doing that again.

Dirty_badger
22-03-16, 08:27 AM
I posted in the canbabis infirmary section too and Thor recommended that I dripped some honey over the split.

So I've put a cable for on and dripped a bit of honey on her :) fingers crossed now.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160322/ddf9e91a0df7e77a94a0d019bd94daab.jpg

Dirty_badger
23-03-16, 07:18 PM
Res change tonight things seem to be going well other than that break I had the other day

This is how she's looking now. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160323/2e027c91a00590393b4c39a6738ef5c4.jpg

Doesn't really seem to have formed a knuckle yet :/ what you guys think?

Jesse Pinkman
23-03-16, 10:09 PM
Res change tonight things seem to be going well other than that break I had the other day

This is how she's looking now. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160323/2e027c91a00590393b4c39a6738ef5c4.jpg

Doesn't really seem to have formed a knuckle yet :/ what you guys think?

Wont form a knuckle yet dude a good week easy for that. Shes lookin wounded but hopefully recovers well bro fingers crossed

Dirty_badger
23-03-16, 10:11 PM
Sound I'll keep my fingers crossed then :)

Jesse Pinkman
28-03-16, 12:52 PM
Hows she looking now badger?

Dirty_badger
28-03-16, 01:00 PM
No knuckle has formed but it doesn't seem to have gone any browner and the new growth is still growing so I'm guessing she'll be ok :)

I'll get some more pics when I go up to them later. Think it's almost flip time as well

Dirty_badger
28-03-16, 08:08 PM
As promised here are a few more pics of the girls.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160328/9abef78aec8c7317923df6b11e42c2f5.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160328/eb69098e47e0ad9f756cd41d8eadb841.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160328/4d750ff449b59e5f2b2cfea362b8ca82.jpg
I'll give them another tucking sesh tomorrow after work then the screen will be pretty full.

Here's a pic of the snapped bitch, she seems to have pulled through.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160328/a5d6092ebb6b23889cdc3395ff74066e.jpg

Dirty_badger
29-03-16, 11:59 AM
So Mr Pinkman after this tucking session tonight/tomorrow (dunno if I can be arsed tonight) do you think it could be flip time? If so do I flip straight away or do I let them grow through a bit first? Cheers.

Dirty_badger
30-03-16, 07:43 PM
Forgot to take a before pic as I'm a massively stoned fucktard tonight haha

Here's a few pics of the after though
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160330/fe9858eac96f8eefcfcb532cc878f976.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160330/1b58dbff89ba35badbe54bdd83615855.jpg

Dunno if it's flip time yet, what you lot think?

Dirty_badger
31-03-16, 07:32 PM
Just dropped a fresh res in. It's day 57 of veg now. I really wanna flip these girls soon.

Silicon 80ml
Rhizo 70ml
Grow 120ml

E.C 0.9
pH 5.8

Jesse Pinkman
01-04-16, 12:17 AM
Sweet mate, whats ur off temps sitting at now, got much of a swing between on & off?

We can flip now when u want realy. Id give em another day or so and flip saturday. Gonna be a good one in there dude

Dirty_badger
01-04-16, 06:27 AM
Not got much off a swing really, saying that though I've still gotta crank em up to 600w I'll sort it out later and flip em tomorrow :)

Dirty_badger
01-04-16, 07:43 AM
Also what's the craic after I flip??? Just let them go wild or have I still gotta pull them back under the screen?

Dirty_badger
01-04-16, 01:10 PM
Another one. What bulbs shall I use for flower Mr P? I'm going the grow shop later today so may as well grab them

Jesse Pinkman
01-04-16, 01:38 PM
Sunmaster dual specs are good 600 bulbs dude. Id keep em under the MH for first two weeks of flip though to reduce stretch.

And yeah carry on training for a few days after flip to try and fill screen and get a even canopy as possible then let them fuckers rip. Would be good if u knew how much the strain stretches. But we'll just playbit safe and fill the screen to 100% with stretch and see what gwarn :)

Dirty_badger
01-04-16, 01:40 PM
Sweet then. I'll get pics up every day once they start stretching and I'm still training. Don't wanna do anything wrong haha.

I've already got some of them they've done 2 grows is it worth buying new?

Jesse Pinkman
01-04-16, 01:42 PM
Up to you realy dude if u can afford it why not, good to swap em out every few grows for efficiency

You'll be fine mate we'll just access it as we go along

Dirty_badger
01-04-16, 01:48 PM
Yeah man I'll grab 2 more then :) only 20 quid each.

Sweet then :D

Hobbit
02-04-16, 07:57 AM
Wow i been locked out for a week, they are looking the business badger. 57 days mate that went fast, mon the flip. Top work boys.

Dirty_badger
02-04-16, 08:04 AM
Didn't it just haha. I didn't really wanna do anything over 7 weeks but hey ho never mind

Jesse Pinkman
02-04-16, 02:17 PM
Flip time tonight then dude. Dont know about you but i run my lights on at night :)

Dirty_badger
02-04-16, 02:20 PM
Shall we go 9-9?

Jesse Pinkman
02-04-16, 03:12 PM
Shall we go 9-9?

Yeah bro or 9pm till 10 am if u wanna go 11/13, tried the 13 hour flower cycle on my last run and it went well

Dirty_badger
02-04-16, 03:15 PM
Sweet then I'll go for that :) should be the coolest period

Jesse Pinkman
02-04-16, 06:05 PM
Yeah man sweet badger, mon the flip

Dirty_badger
02-04-16, 06:11 PM
Timer has been changed just, so they'll come on at 9 and go off at 10am :) I'll just have to get the temps dialled in ASAP haha

Dirty_badger
02-04-16, 06:22 PM
I'm also gonna build a mother/seedling/early veg room :) where shall I stick the thread for that?

Hobbit
03-04-16, 12:17 AM
Woop woop mon the flowers.

Sadface
03-04-16, 05:48 AM
fook me badger..what a smart and tidy set up you have ..awsome grow

Dirty_badger
03-04-16, 09:10 AM
Check on temps this morning and they're sitting at 25°C with both lights running at 600W :) happy days

Jesse Pinkman
03-04-16, 03:56 PM
Check on temps this morning and they're sitting at 25°C with both lights running at 600W :) happy days

Exellent dude thats good news, lets try and keep light off temp as close to that as possible. Dont leave it to long inbetween training now as u'll have some decent stretch dialy dude. Keep training em outward for a good few days and hopefully that screen will be near enough full

Dirty_badger
03-04-16, 04:24 PM
Sweet then. I'll hit em with a training sesh in the morning. How many days should I carry on training for?

Jesse Pinkman
03-04-16, 04:48 PM
Sweet then. I'll hit em with a training sesh in the morning. How many days should I carry on training for?

We will play it by ear with that one, depending how little or how much they stretch and how quick screen fills. Just drop pics on throughout the week so we can access them and act accordingly.

We want the screen as full as possible but a decent stretch above screen aswel to allow for some nice colas :D

Dirty_badger
03-04-16, 05:54 PM
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Don't wanna use all the stretch on filling the net and then end up with 2" colas haha

Dirty_badger
04-04-16, 07:18 AM
They've stretched enough through the screen for another tucking sesh, so when it's lights on tonight I'll get tucking.

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Jesse Pinkman
04-04-16, 10:57 AM
Yeah thats cool mate, as long as they have grow enough to be moved to the next hole in mesh thats sweet

ReeferDankness
04-04-16, 11:07 AM
Loving the set up mate and those bushes look very healthy :D good job!

Dirty_badger
04-04-16, 11:29 AM
Yeah thats cool mate, as long as they have grow enough to be moved to the next hole in mesh thats sweet

Yeah that's what I was going to do with them anyway.


Loving the set up mate and those bushes look very healthy :D good job!

Cheers dude. Pull up a chair and watch the buds grow

Dirty_badger
04-04-16, 07:34 PM
Mr P is the light that comes off the chiller anything to worry about during lights off?

Dirty_badger
04-04-16, 10:34 PM
Had another tucking sesh tonight :) http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160404/4859c7fb385cab8607a6ec1b90fda80a.jpg

Jesse Pinkman
04-04-16, 10:51 PM
Mr P is the light that comes off the chiller anything to worry about during lights off?

Yes in flower boi, get some tape or summat and make a lil flap for the bastard so u can still inspect the temp

Jesse Pinkman
04-04-16, 10:52 PM
Had another tucking sesh tonight :) http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160404/4859c7fb385cab8607a6ec1b90fda80a.jpg

Looking bangin this is mate well done man

Dirty_badger
04-04-16, 10:54 PM
What length do I want the colas to be ideally?

Dirty_badger
06-04-16, 04:20 PM
Gonna make up my fresh batch of nutes tonight, are we sticking to the same as we have been for a few weeks?

Jesse Pinkman
07-04-16, 02:10 AM
Gonna make up my fresh batch of nutes tonight, are we sticking to the same as we have been for a few weeks?

Yes exactly the same dude this will be there last res on grow nutes dude as were still in very early 12/12 they will still need that extra N.

Just run with that res, topping up water and nutes as required to maintain figures. Let me know if anything changes in the feeding or ph will you.
As soon as we signs of flowering a week or so down the road then it will be bloom time regarding the res

Dirty_badger
07-04-16, 06:06 AM
EC had risen slightly last night so I just added a bit of water to pull it down.

I'll get them made up tonight and drop it out :)

Will the light off the chiller be causing any issues?

Jesse Pinkman
07-04-16, 03:32 PM
EC had risen slightly last night so I just added a bit of water to pull it down.

I'll get them made up tonight and drop it out :)

Will the light off the chiller be causing any issues?

Yeah ha read post 218 :laugh:

Bulls
07-04-16, 03:39 PM
You're doing grand job on these ones fellas. Keep going :) Will be fun once they flowered.

Dirty_badger
07-04-16, 04:24 PM
Yes in flower boi, get some tape or summat and make a lil flap for the bastard so u can still inspect the temp

Only just read this I'll get on it tonight 👍🏾

Dirty_badger
10-04-16, 09:15 PM
I've covered up all little lights within the groom now 👍🏾 gonna have another tucking sesh tomorrow then they'll have another weeks worth of stretch 😬 http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160410/e54f3a4f49e26053a562e654b180bf30.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160410/a430f1f3666090e55d1e0cddafb66109.jpg


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Jesse Pinkman
11-04-16, 02:15 AM
Bang on dude thats looking, yeah man that screens nealy full now aint it :)

Dirty_badger
11-04-16, 07:12 AM
Yeah not too far off :) mon the fluff


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Dazmandaz
11-04-16, 09:34 AM
looking sweet badger your doing a cracking job and of course jesse on the mentoring ;)

i can so see me modifying my wilma and having a bash at this .... Damn yous tempting me to change again lol keep it up lads ;) :joint:

Dirty_badger
11-04-16, 01:56 PM
looking sweet badger your doing a cracking job and of course jesse on the mentoring ;)

i can so see me modifying my wilma and having a bash at this .... Damn yous tempting me to change again lol keep it up lads ;) :joint:

What you running now, a standard Wilma set up? It's so much easier having it DWC. I hated the big pots :(

Cheers dude, I can't wait for the fruits to start showing.

Dirty_badger
11-04-16, 09:30 PM
Final tucking sesh complete :)
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Time to let them stretch, just hope they've got enough left in them to get some decent size colas. What do people recommend to help support the colas?

I've seen some people using pea netting, do I just simply drape this over them when they've stopped stretching or what?

Cheers


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Jesse Pinkman
12-04-16, 01:45 PM
You can use pea netting if u wish to help. Ive never liked the stuff just end up in a big tangled up mess and loose my patience with it. Can u screw a few hooks up to the ceiling?
Thats what i do with mine get a packet of 10 hooks for toolstation for about a quid.

Yeah just let em rip now and any proper run away colas you get just stem wank em to slow em down

Dirty_badger
12-04-16, 02:18 PM
You can use pea netting if u wish to help. Ive never liked the stuff just end up in a big tangled up mess and loose my patience with it. Can u screw a few hooks up to the ceiling?
Thats what i do with mine get a packet of 10 hooks for toolstation for about a quid.

Yeah just let em rip now and any proper run away colas you get just stem wank em to slow em down

Stem wank? Elaborate haha never heard that one used before.

Yeah I've got plenty of sky hooks dude so I'll be able have strings tying everything up :)

Will I be orate cutting the bits off that don't reach the screen and using them for clones?

Dirty_badger
12-04-16, 09:10 PM
E.C had risen to 1.1 and pH had called to 5

I've made a top up mix and got them back to where they should be


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Hobbit
13-04-16, 08:15 AM
its gunna be a jungle mate well done.

Dirty_badger
13-04-16, 08:16 AM
I'm hoping so :)


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Dirty_badger
13-04-16, 10:02 PM
Just checked on the girls and the EC and pH have stabilised since the top up last night :) mon the stretch, I hope they've got enough left in them


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Bushwacked74
14-04-16, 05:38 AM
Mate your garden is looking fully Hectic nice work

Dirty_badger
14-04-16, 04:43 PM
Mate your garden is looking fully Hectic nice work

Cheers dude :) pull up a chair and watch it get full of bud 😍

Jesse Pinkman
14-04-16, 05:01 PM
Stem wanking mate if u get a few run away colas just rub the stem and squeeze her some like when u supercrop, crackin em a little. That will slow em down a tad.
You will have nealy 20 days of stretch dude so dont worry about that. If u think they aint stretching enough you can always run your lights off temp abit cooler to create a bigger diff in lights on and off temps. I think u'll be fine though

Good news on the reaction to feed

Jesse Pinkman
14-04-16, 05:02 PM
Oh yeah leave all the undergrowth aswel dude, that will be stripped out in due time

Dirty_badger
14-04-16, 05:03 PM
Oh sweet then so if by Sunday I'm not happy with the stretch I'll reduce the temps a little at night 👍🏾 they just look so trapped under the net lol

I'll have to practice my wanking haha


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Jesse Pinkman
14-04-16, 08:20 PM
Yeah dude, how long they been on 12/12 for now?

Dirty_badger
14-04-16, 08:30 PM
Since the 2nd dude so 12 days


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Dirty_badger
14-04-16, 09:06 PM
EC has risen again and pH dropped gonna stick a fresh batch of nutes in tomorrow as the res is rather low


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Jesse Pinkman
15-04-16, 03:07 PM
EC has risen again and pH dropped gonna stick a fresh batch of nutes in tomorrow as the res is rather low


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Ok go with the bloom today then dude if ur res changing,
Knock the rhizo on the head but same dose of silicon and then just make up ec with bloom only. Take here to 1.0

Shiz didnt realise it had been that long since the flip. Yeah deffo reduce off temps and can ur groom handle the on temps of superlemens you reckon ti create more of a temp swing between on and off

Dirty_badger
15-04-16, 03:10 PM
What put the lights in overdrive? How much should I reduce the temps by?


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Jesse Pinkman
15-04-16, 03:51 PM
What put the lights in overdrive? How much should I reduce the temps by?


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Your lights are on 600w now yeah?

Dirty_badger
15-04-16, 03:54 PM
Yeah dude they've been on 600 for a while now. I'll just drop the heater down get it to about 18 lights off and 26 lights on 👍🏾


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