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joker_the_smoker
23-06-16, 12:31 PM
how we doin THC Tokers :bong:

Thought i would start a a diary, i have just finished me 1st grow on a normal photo period strain (super iced grapefruit) and it went pretty well better then i thought it would tbh. so while thats all curing i have setup my 1st auto grow to fill in some spare time before i decide what my next photo period strain will be.

the strains i am growing are 1 x VIP Afghani Autoflowering Feminised Seed
1 x VIP Northern Delights Auto Autoflowering Feminised Seed
1 x Advanced Auto NYCD Autoflowering Feminised Seed (Cup Winner) all from Herbies seeds


Current set up will be pretty much same as me last grow except am using airpots.

My current set up is :

DS90 Grow Tent
3 x 10L Air pots with just COCO Plus
5inch extractor fan with a 5inch carbon filter
4inch S&P TD silent intake fan
400w light mh & 600w Dual Spec
Omega Dimmable digital ballast (250w, 400w & 600w).
120w tube heater
1 x humidifier
1 x clip on 6inch fan
1 x Gse Humidity Temperature + negative pressure controller (controlling both fans)

PH reader, cf reader, ( as i will be keeping the PH around 5.7 to 6.0 using tap water also which is in a very soft water area
Using Shogun range of nutes still have plenty from last grow so want get them used and also using the great white root additive.

few pics below. They started in mini pots and i transplanted them in the airpots on Thurs 16th. took these pics last nyt so they are about a week in.

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Done alot reading up on the autoflowers before started just so i dont start treating them the same way as normal photo plants.

Light schedule is 19/5 all way through (chose this mainly due to it being summer so lights go off at 12 in the afternoon and come back on a 5)

Plan to do some LST training. wont be topping or scrogging etc.

how long do you wait to swap the bulb to HPS first sign of flowering or ??

Also whats the ideal temps & RH to stick to during veg and flower? at moments temps are like 28 and RH 45/ 50%[/B]

thanks peeps :party:

M_C
23-06-16, 12:34 PM
Swap to the HPS bulb when the stretch starts to slow right down mate :)

...your temps & RH are fine as they are :)

joker_the_smoker
23-06-16, 12:58 PM
Swap to the HPS bulb when the stretch starts to slow right down mate :)

...your temps & RH are fine as they are :)

thanks MC appreciate the info from you any time mate.

was just reading thru that northern light big bud you did. fookin beast that mate. any tips and tricks you can recommend for getting best out of an auto??

thanks bro

M_C
23-06-16, 01:25 PM
Yeah, bit of a beast, weren't she ;) That one was topped but you can achieve similar results using LST, just keep the growing tip down & allow the lateral branches to catch up so that you gain an even height on all the new growing tips which will form your canopy :)

joker_the_smoker
23-06-16, 02:38 PM
Yeah, bit of a beast, weren't she ;) That one was topped but you can achieve similar results using LST, just keep the growing tip down & allow the lateral branches to catch up so that you gain an even height on all the new growing tips which will form your canopy :)

dam rite she was :laugh: from what i was reading topping was a no no with auto plants? yea i hear what your saying ther bro with the growing tip. am still a noob but will be cracking on with it ha

M_C
23-06-16, 05:27 PM
I've had great success from topping autos, it was Loki that got me curious about it after seeing his results :)

It's just a case of topping them just at the right time :)

joker_the_smoker
23-06-16, 06:47 PM
I've had great success from topping autos, it was Loki that got me curious about it after seeing his results :)

It's just a case of topping them just at the right time :)

hmmm now you got me thinking mc. wud u giv us heads up wen you think its time to top?? shit if it worked on yours am willin try it after seein the results you had mate :headbang:

M_C
23-06-16, 07:00 PM
You top at the third true node mate, this is exactly the time that she starts to flower too :)

joker_the_smoker
23-06-16, 07:14 PM
sweet mate think i mite go 4 it. topped on me last grow bu they weren't no auto plants like.different rules for different tools an tha :laugh:

joker_the_smoker
28-06-16, 11:37 AM
quick up date with few pics. went away on friday came back sunday and was shocked how fast its grown. think i might FIM them soon getting close to the time to do it, as per M_C advice :headbang:

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MrChedHead
28-06-16, 03:40 PM
Plants a lookin perfect in there mate, real nice .... mon the coco 👍

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joker_the_smoker
29-06-16, 10:21 AM
Plants a lookin perfect in there mate, real nice .... mon the coco ��

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thanks Lowkey mate, first run on these autos so see what happens ay :laugh: :bong:

joker_the_smoker
29-06-16, 11:28 AM
ok peeps so i gave them the FIM hopefully dun it right, as i havent tried this before , i topped on me last grow. will get some pics up of the damage soon :laugh: hopefully this works ay

Loki
29-06-16, 05:00 PM
Hey Joker, looking great so far mate. Any plans on topping or going natural? :D

joker_the_smoker
29-06-16, 05:40 PM
yo loki bro. i did fim them last night. will have sum pics up later. well think i fim lol.

joker_the_smoker
29-06-16, 05:53 PM
also what kind ec we need be at this stage matey

Loki
29-06-16, 06:00 PM
Hey Joker,

Ec will depend on your background EC mate. Soft water would be close to 0.2, so a feed of 0.7 after all nutrients are added would be fine for now.

joker_the_smoker
29-06-16, 06:23 PM
Hey Joker,

Ec will depend on your background EC mate. Soft water would be close to 0.2, so a feed of 0.7 after all nutrients are added would be fine for now.

my water very soft mate. dont get no reading on me ec stick

B.A.BARACUS
29-06-16, 06:28 PM
Moved To mentoring Section as requested & Sorted Joker with student cap :)

joker_the_smoker
29-06-16, 06:32 PM
Moved To mentoring Section as requested & Sorted Joker with student cap :)

nice 1 B.A :headbang:

joker_the_smoker
30-06-16, 10:45 AM
couple pics from last night, also pic or 2 of the damage from the FIM. hopefully done it right

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temps are around 27/28 and RH is about 50ish. is it ready to start some lst training yet

Loki
01-07-16, 12:06 AM
Hey Joker, looking sweet as mate, give it a few days to see how the new growth goes. Once the new growth starts growing, you can start to gently pull it downwards.

joker_the_smoker
01-07-16, 09:57 AM
Hey Joker, looking sweet as mate, give it a few days to see how the new growth goes. Once the new growth starts growing, you can start to gently pull it downwards.

Ok mate no worries. few questions Loki just so i no am on right track.

1 - Current lights on time is 19/5 do i stick with this time all way through or switch to 24/0 ?
2- am using 1.5ml A+B to 1 litre water that ok at min? also i am still using a root booster in the feed?
3- do you use calmag every feed or every other feed? The ec stays nice and low with a+b and root booster but soon as calmag added ec shoots up

nice 1 bro :bong:

Loki
02-07-16, 12:10 AM
Ok mate no worries. few questions Loki just so i no am on right track.

1 - Current lights on time is 19/5 do i stick with this time all way through or switch to 24/0 ?
2- am using 1.5ml A+B to 1 litre water that ok at min? also i am still using a root booster in the feed?
3- do you use calmag every feed or every other feed? The ec stays nice and low with a+b and root booster but soon as calmag added ec shoots up

nice 1 bro :bong:

Hey Joker, I would switch it to 24/0 when you start to notice flowers, normally from weeks 3-4

The A+B sounds like a good level at the moment, what is the EC?

For the cal/mag, I would make a solution up with 2-4 ml per litre, & use it as a foliar spray rather then added to feed, this spray should only be applied during the veg stage & very early flower stage (before any buds come out).

joker_the_smoker
02-07-16, 02:08 PM
ok mate will switch to 24 when flower starts.

thing is Loki i fed last night with only a+b ( 1.5ml of each to litre and the EC is working out at 0.9 thats with out calmag. does this seem ok? maybe my nutes are tad stronger coz dont get why EC high with just 1.5ml) i also added in some great white for the roots this didnt effect the EC.

so you only use calmag in a spray at this stage? how often you think i should feed them as i am doing it every 2 days.

back plant on the right (afghani) growing way faster then other two. did bit of LST on it expose sum other areas to light. will post some pics mate an see what you think.

joker_the_smoker
02-07-16, 02:23 PM
few pics below

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joker_the_smoker
02-07-16, 07:43 PM
dont think pics uploaded. try again. :banghead:

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Loki
03-07-16, 11:13 AM
Hey Joker, plants look sweet so far mate.
Just use the cal/mag as a foliar spray while in veg, it will only need to be added to the mix while in flower.
If needed during flower, mix up first at 2 ml per litre, then add A+B to bring the EC to where it needs to be. At this stage every 2 days is fine but just keep an eye on temperatures as coco is unforgiving if it gets too dry.

joker_the_smoker
04-07-16, 10:55 AM
Yea that Afghan is flying man never seen plant grow so quick. other two NYC and Northern are lil slow. also on them two i think i FIM a bit to early i have put few pics below as you can tell on the leaves? would it be to late to top them to now? or will that just slow them both down even further now?

fed last night A 1.5ml + B 1.5ml only EC was 0.9 that ok? gona do the calmag spray tonight as me spray bottle broke. yea these airpots seem to dry out faster then normal pots wonder if worth watering everyday??

Nice 1 mate.

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joker_the_smoker
17-07-16, 03:31 PM
are these ready for flower? been around 6 weeks since they first popped through the coco. startin get smell on them. just not sure when to swap the bulb to the hps one with it bein autos

joker_the_smoker
17-07-16, 03:42 PM
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Loki
18-07-16, 12:25 AM
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They look really nice mate, definitely ready for flower, will likely double in size.

joker_the_smoker
18-07-16, 08:12 AM
double in size i hope not ha. runnin out space already
will put 600 hps in tonight.
shall i start with flowering nutes also? just ordered some advanced nutes big bud aswel. so will have a+b .pk9-18 an big buda. how you want me go with these loki?

joker_the_smoker
18-07-16, 08:16 AM
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back right is the afghani it a monster compaired to the other two

CaRtz TokeMonkey
18-07-16, 08:43 PM
Subbed for this one best of luck Joker

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19-07-16, 11:59 AM
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cheers mate

joker_the_smoker
20-07-16, 09:08 AM
double in size i hope not ha. runnin out space already
will put 600 hps in tonight.
shall i start with flowering nutes also? just ordered some advanced nutes big bud aswel. so will have a+b .pk9-18 an big buda. how you want me go with these loki?

Loki any update on this bro ???

Loki
20-07-16, 04:26 PM
Loki any update on this bro ???

Give it around 10 days before starting with flower nutrients, just a quick pm boost to start

joker_the_smoker
20-07-16, 04:35 PM
shit i already gave it a feed before with the big bud in. shall i just jump back on to a + b till next next week?

so leave the big bud an pk alone for now?

Loki
20-07-16, 04:39 PM
shit i already gave it a feed before with the big bud in. shall i just jump back on to a + b till next next week?

so leave to big bud an pk alone for now?

Nah, give it a boost of pk then go back to a+b, then next week start on the flower schedule

joker_the_smoker
20-07-16, 04:42 PM
Nah, give it a boost of pk then go back to a+b, then next week start on the flower schedule

sound mate next feed will be the PK boost then will just feed a an b till nxt week. wrote that info ya pm'd me from the other site while this was down. need get the ec to 1.4 ?

Loki
23-07-16, 10:08 AM
sound mate next feed will be the PK boost then will just feed a an b till nxt week. wrote that info ya pm'd me from the other site while this was down. need get the ec to 1.4 ?

Hey Joker, I will always try to push the plants to the limits, but if they seem happy & are growing without problems, keep the EC the same & keep doing what you're doing. I do like to push the EC up for the first week or so of flower as they demand a lot of energy to kick start the production of buds, I normally boost the PK by adding it at full strength to the A+B for the first week of flower, then bring it back to 1/4 strength & work the normal schedule for the remainder.

joker_the_smoker
23-07-16, 01:17 PM
yo loki. i gave the pk boost in a feed on weds. just been feeding just a+b since then. do you wana start the week of full strength pk from this monday or tues? what ec shud i aim for with this?
currently feeding 2ml ab/litre ec is about 1.3. also feeding every 12hours due to airpots dryin fast lately.
noticed few calmag issues on couple leaves so been adding calmag in to feed that ok??

Loki
23-07-16, 10:38 PM
yo loki. i gave the pk boost in a feed on weds. just been feeding just a+b since then. do you wana start the week of full strength pk from this monday or tues? what ec shud i aim for with this?
currently feeding 2ml ab/litre ec is about 1.3. also feeding every 12hours due to airpots dryin fast lately.
noticed few calmag issues on couple leaves so been adding calmag in to feed that ok??
Hey Joker, start the week of boost from the day you put the pk in. You should be sweet for 1 last foliar feed, could you upload a few pictures just to confirm what's happening.

joker_the_smoker
24-07-16, 08:18 PM
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joker_the_smoker
24-07-16, 08:25 PM
since i had move groom to garage. i bought new tent yesterday. they now in a 1.2x1.2x200 tent. so got extra bit room they stretched like crazy mainly the back right plant the afghani it kinda towers the other to :laugh: looks like the stretch has finished anyway. gave calmag foliar feed this mornin.
will start the pk tomora mate. what ec shud i go for? an how much a+b? when do you use the big bud also?. still a noob ere me ha wil have explain in simple terms :laugh:

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Loki
25-07-16, 12:39 PM
since i had move groom to garage. i bought new tent yesterday. they now in a 1.2x1.2x200 tent. so got extra bit room they stretched like crazy mainly the back right plant the afghani it kinda towers the other to :laugh: looks like the stretch has finished anyway. gave calmag foliar feed this mornin.
will start the pk tomora mate. what ec shud i go for? an how much a+b? when do you use the big bud also?. still a noob ere me ha wil have explain in simple terms :laugh:

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Hey Joker, you want to aim for around an ec of 1.2 - 1.5 for the first week of flower. I normally use 100ml each of a+b per 50 litres to get an ec of around 1.8. Start out with adding 10ml of each & checking what changes, this will lead you to knowing what mls change what & how it will affect the overall ec.

joker_the_smoker
25-07-16, 12:58 PM
last feed i did last night mate was about 2ml a+b to litre. am feeding 6litres between the 3 plants every 12 hours ec was 1.3
will start the pk on tonights feed it says on the bottle - Add at a rate of 0.5 – 1.0ml/L what do you recommend i should go with?

joker_the_smoker
26-07-16, 02:52 PM
also got leaves going bit strange
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temps are ok they at around 25 26. RH around 58%
not close to the light either:confused::confused:
its only on one plant also

Loki
26-07-16, 06:35 PM
also got leaves going bit strange
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temps are ok they at around 25 26. RH around 58%
not close to the light either:confused::confused:
its only on one plant also
I've had that on a few of my leaves too Joker, never worked out what caused it, but will do some research about it & get back to you.

As for the PK, go in at a full strength dose for a week then drop it back to 1/4 strength. Aim for an EC of around 1.0 above your background. Mix the pk first then add a+b till you hit the ec level.

joker_the_smoker
26-07-16, 06:57 PM
seems like heat stress but temps are ok.
it says 0.5ml to 1ml litre on pk. shall i go with 1ml to litre??? ok mate will go to 1.0 ec. it was 1.3 on last feed so will drop it.
also loki since am feeding every 12 hours shud i keep each 12hour feed as 1.0 ec. wont be over kill on nutes or pk?

joker_the_smoker
28-07-16, 09:47 PM
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went with 1ml pk to litre mate hope tha was ok.
the back left plant in the pic barely jus startin to flower now tho by looks of it

Loki
28-07-16, 10:31 PM
Hey Joker, sorry for the late reply mate, yeah starting to look good in there dude. What is your overall ec? Some of the lower leaves look a little faded. 1ml per litre is cool. The fist week of flower uses a lot of energy to start the process, a PK boost during that time really helps. Aim for an EC of around 1.4 for then next week or so.

joker_the_smoker
28-07-16, 10:48 PM
no sweat bro.overall ec on last feed was 1.3. yea mate i noticed that aswel. what you think that is? come tuesday they would have had 1 full week of full strength pk.so will i drop pk strength cum nxt week??
lights have been on 24/7 also

joker_the_smoker
30-07-16, 03:14 PM
loki so cum monday i will cut the pk down ?? so i will do 1/4 of ml pk to a litre?? doing 1ml to litre at the min.

ec is 1.3 /1.4
PH 6.0
temps 26 27. RH 50% (Iput a 10litre dehumidifier in so that working a treat on the humidity)

will we also start using the bottle of big bud i have??

Loki
31-07-16, 02:53 PM
loki so cum monday i will cut the pk down ?? so i will do 1/4 of ml pk to a litre?? doing 1ml to litre at the min.

ec is 1.3 /1.4
PH 6.0
temps 26 27. RH 50% (Iput a 10litre dehumidifier in so that working a treat on the humidity)

will we also start using the bottle of big bud i have??
Hey Joker, 1.5ml per litre is full strength for pk, 15ml per 10 litres is the dose on the bottle. Drop it down to 0.5ml per litre instead of the 0.25ml.
Make up a solution with Bigbud first then the pk, then add the a+b to get the ec up to 1.8. pH to 6.0 & the odd 6.2.

My general mix would be 2ml per litre of Bigbud,

The pk would range from 0.5 to 1.5ml per litre, depending on what week of flower.

A+B varies also depending on week of flower .

It's a bit long but if you test the ec at all the different stages of mixing, you will quickly find out what amounts of nutrient will raise the ec & how it will affect the pH. In my water 10ml each of a+b brings it up 0.2.

joker_the_smoker
01-08-16, 11:38 AM
you said 1ml per litre is cool :laugh: gerin wires crossed :laugh:
started the above feed you said mate today.
2ml/litre bigbud
0.5ml /litre PK
then A/B till it was EC 1.8 ph 6.0. feeding this twice a day as pots dry out fast

what about calmag at this stage Loki??? cheers bro :headbang:

Loki
01-08-16, 12:03 PM
you said 1ml per litre is cool :laugh: gerin wires crossed :laugh:
started the above feed you said mate today.
2ml/litre bigbud
0.5ml /litre PK
then A/B till it was EC 1.8 ph 6.0. feeding this twice a day as pots dry out fast

what about calmag at this stage Loki??? cheers bro :headbang:
Hey Joker, :rolleyes: lol yeah this super lemon haze is a mind blower lol.
Normally with the cal/mag I would use as a foliar spray, but during flower I would use it as a drench instead, I'd have to double check the bottle but I think it's 1-2 ml per litre for coco/hydro drench. I would feed normally then as you're feeding every 12 hours, swap the second one for a cal/mag drench instead.

joker_the_smoker
01-08-16, 12:19 PM
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

yea was using it as foliar before, think will my water being super soft 1ml litre is about right. maybe every other feed?
what you mean by drench feed bro? just mixing it with the feed??

Loki
01-08-16, 07:17 PM
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

yea was using it as foliar before, think will my water being super soft 1ml litre is about right. maybe every other feed?
what you mean by drench feed bro? just mixing it with the feed??
A Cal/Mag drench is just cal/mag mixed with water without the rest of the nutrients. I was thinking over my last post & it's better to give them the drench first, about an hour after lights on, then give the the normal feed.

joker_the_smoker
02-08-16, 11:25 AM
the lights dont go off they are on 24/7 bro

so i would give them this calmag drench then straight after that i would give them the normal feed ??

so feed schedule be something like this:

Morning AM : calmag Drench followed by the usual feed.

Evening : just the usual feed keep repeating this?

can the calmag not be mixed with every utha feed?

my head startin to hurt ere :laugh:

joker_the_smoker
02-08-16, 11:35 AM
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02-08-16, 11:40 AM
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duno what going on with this Northern Delight. either slow as fook or shit seed

Loki
02-08-16, 01:11 PM
the lights dont go off they are on 24/7 bro

so i would give them this calmag drench then straight after that i would give them the normal feed ??

so feed schedule be something like this:

Morning AM : calmag Drench followed by the usual feed.

Evening : just the usual feed keep repeating this?

can the calmag not be mixed with every utha feed?

my head startin to hurt ere :laugh:
Lol, your heads hurting, I thought these were photo period lol.

Right, drench them first, then give it an hour then feed as normal. You can mix it with the normal feed but it's better served as a separate feed. You don't normally need to give it to the plants very often, I go for once in veg & once in flower if needed.

Most of the pictures aren't showing for me . I'll check back on my phone when I get back.

joker_the_smoker
02-08-16, 04:08 PM
photo period:omg: that lemon haze you smokin must be sum serious bud bro :laugh::laugh:
the feed we been doing still ok for the autoflowers??? 1.8ec 0.5ml pk etc etc

could i get away with doing the drench say once per week mate? or does it need be like every day or other day. ??
only reason i ask is coz landlord served notice so i had move grow room to garage and dont wana be going in and out making myself look suspect if ya get me. hope these be ready by 4/5 weeks :laugh:

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joker_the_smoker
04-08-16, 04:11 PM
did the calmag drench on Tuesday night anyway mate followed by feed hour later
2ml litre bigbud
0.5ml litre PK
then added AB till i got to EC 1.8 PH 6.0 /6.2
Temps - 25 26 27 hard get them any lower at min. RH is 45% > 52%

Picked up bottle this the other day also just incase you might wana use it ??
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when will i need to do another calmag drench??

what will be the feeding plan for next week also???

Loki
04-08-16, 05:32 PM
did the calmag drench on Tuesday night anyway mate followed by feed hour later
2ml litre bigbud
0.5ml litre PK
then added AB till i got to EC 1.8 PH 6.0 /6.2
Temps - 25 26 27 hard get them any lower at min. RH is 45% > 52%

Picked up bottle this the other day also just incase you might wana use it ??
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when will i need to do another calmag drench??

what will be the feeding plan for next week also???
Hey Joker, that overdrive is good stuff mate, I used some in a few of my grows. Use for the last 2 weeks before flush. 2ml per litre if I remember right, but judging by the fact I thought your plants were photo period, I will double check.

The feed for next week should be slightly less PK as the initial boost need for start of flower will level off a bit. Drop the pk down to 0.25ml per litre, keep the rest the roughly the same or till you hit 1.4ec, ph the same too.

joker_the_smoker
04-08-16, 06:38 PM
ok cool well let me know when you wana use it bro.
so next week will be as follows
pk 0.25ml litre
bigbud 2ml litre
then AB till hit EC 1.4 . an ph 6.0

what about the calmag drench in the post above bro??

cheers loki :headbang:

Loki
04-08-16, 07:46 PM
ok cool well let me know when you wana use it bro.
so next week will be as follows
pk 0.25ml litre
bigbud 2ml litre
then AB till hit EC 1.4 . an ph 6.0

what about the calmag drench in the post above bro??

cheers loki :headbang:
I would only add the cal/mag if it's required, I used it 3 times in my last grow, twice in veg, week 3 then again in week 6. Then once in flower, but I mixed it with the big bud & a+b. Leave it 2 weeks & if the leaves are nice & green, then leave it.

joker_the_smoker
05-08-16, 10:57 AM
i think its needed mate. check the pic of the leaf below. its only on NYCD plant like. slowly worked its way up plant. seems like calmag issue but did the calmag drench the other day.......

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joker_the_smoker
08-08-16, 12:24 PM
started the feed you recommended for this week.

2ml/litre big bud.
0.25ml/litre PK
then add A+B till hit EC 1.4 - ph 6.0

temps on high side like 28s RH IS 45/50%

Loki
09-08-16, 09:34 AM
started the feed you recommended for this week.

2ml/litre big bud.
0.25ml/litre PK
then add A+B till hit EC 1.4 - ph 6.0

temps on high side like 28s RH IS 45/50%
Hey Joker, all looks good from the last shots. The back left looks like it may go longer then the rest but they all look good mate. Temps & RH are ok, I've knocked on the door of the high 30's, as long as it's not for extended lengths of time.

joker_the_smoker
10-08-16, 10:17 AM
yea seems that it might go bit longer. high 30s wow ha. weather gone cooler at min which is great but got feeling might go hot next week.

what kinda feed schedule do we start next week?? also is to late to remove any leafs so it not so bushy in there? already tidy underneath but would be good to expose these buds more


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Loki
12-08-16, 12:50 AM
Hey Joker, looking real nice in there dude. Keep the feed mostly the same, just bring up the pk to 0.5 ml per litre & adjust the A+B accordingly. PH is good to stay where it is. Seems like it's a smooth ride so far mate, should be a good result.

joker_the_smoker
12-08-16, 11:57 AM
ok mate so as below

pk back up to 0.5ml / litre
2ml big bud / litre PH will be same 6.0 odd 6.2 we still keepin EC 1.4??? (my background ec is about 0.2/0.3)

when do you use the overdrive mate??

330143 NYCD had take it out while i fitted dripper system

will get few more pics that slower grower is packin on sum bud now . will get some more pics over weekend

JB
12-08-16, 12:28 PM
Looking nice in there mate.

Plenty o' bud. :)

joker_the_smoker
16-08-16, 09:18 AM
yo Loki u there bro? any info on the last post?
also had look at the trichs through the loupe last night and seeing mostly cloudy. not started the new feed schedule yet just want double check with you incase you do wana start using the overdrive? buds looked to have kinda stalled on growth at the min.

thanks :headbang:

Loki
18-08-16, 07:41 PM
yo Loki u there bro? any info on the last post?
also had look at the trichs through the loupe last night and seeing mostly cloudy. not started the new feed schedule yet just want double check with you incase you do wana start using the overdrive? buds looked to have kinda stalled on growth at the min.

thanks :headbang:
Hey Joker, yeah sorry for the absence mate, my little sister had a baby & it's been a bit mad the last week or so.

Right, well they really look great dude, you're smashing it. The overdrive goes in for the last 2 weeks before flush, 2ml per litre. As it's a booster, add it first with the pk & bring the ec up to the desired level with the a+b. Wait for the first signs of amber trichomes before adding the overdrive.

Loki
18-08-16, 07:50 PM
Drop the bigbud down to 1ml per litre during the last 2 weeks while using the overdrive. Also drop the overall ec to 1.0 over the 2 weeks of overdrive use. The flush will do the rest, don't be alarmed by the yellowing during flush, it completely normal.

joker_the_smoker
19-08-16, 09:51 AM
no probs mate bit good news for ya there mate congrats bro.

ok mate so when i start seeing amber i will use the below feed. How much PK??
bigbud 1ml/litre
overdrive 2ml/litre
PK __ per litre????
top it off with AB til hit ec 1.0

what feed should i do next week till i see ambers? feed at present is:
2ml/litre bigbud
0.5ml/litre pk
AB till hit EC 1.4 - PH6.0

THANKS BRO

joker_the_smoker
19-08-16, 09:25 PM
few pics from tonight
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joker_the_smoker
20-08-16, 08:18 PM
seein amber now mate so gona start with overdrive. just need know how much pk use. knockin up fresh barrel for nxt weeks feed. let me no asap matey

Loki
20-08-16, 09:22 PM
seein amber now mate so gona start with overdrive. just need know how much pk use. knockin up fresh barrel for nxt weeks feed. let me no asap matey
Hey Joker, pk should be at around 1/4 strength at this stage mate.

2ml per litre Overdrive
0.25ml per litre PK
1ml per litre of the other booster(bigbud)???
A+B up to 1.4ec

Bosh

joker_the_smoker
20-08-16, 10:25 PM
haha nice1 bro.
thought ec was gona be 1.0 as per the previous post?

Loki
20-08-16, 11:12 PM
haha nice1 bro.
thought ec was gona be 1.0 as per the previous post?
I meant that you should drop the ec to 1.0 over the course of 2 weeks. If you're knocking up the whole weeks worth at once, then add a little water & ph back to 6ish.

joker_the_smoker
21-08-16, 12:08 AM
ah ok bro am with ya. nice1 mate :headbang:

joker_the_smoker
21-08-16, 10:45 AM
woke up to branches had fallin bud seems be gettin to heavy so tied them up.
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Loki
21-08-16, 11:44 AM
Fat buds can sometimes do that , not too sure if it's a bad thing yet lol. Still looking good bro

joker_the_smoker
21-08-16, 01:24 PM
Fat buds can sometimes do that , not too sure if it's a bad thing yet lol. Still looking good bro

lol probs not mate.
them leaves lookin shitty now though.even more so on the smallest plant. is it worth doin a small drench on them??
also how do you go about flushin when you do your grows mate? number days? plain none ph tap water etc.

joker_the_smoker
23-08-16, 08:34 PM
guttered man just seen mould on one the colas . checked the rest they sweet...for now. duno why tho RH is kept below 55. temps high enuff. plenty air movement in there aswel. i just chopped below the mould but should i remove it all from base of stem??

joker_the_smoker
23-08-16, 08:37 PM
330846
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330848 after i hacked below the mould duno if should just remove it all

:banghead::banghead::omg::omg:

JB
23-08-16, 08:50 PM
Farrrkkk!!!

Dutchcourage
23-08-16, 08:56 PM
Take a bit more than you think is needed to be taken, how close to harvest are you, close enough to get some decent bud?

joker_the_smoker
23-08-16, 09:58 PM
gona be flushing in like a week or so. all others are sound it wernt one me biggest like bu still

ERBURT
23-08-16, 10:03 PM
Yeah cut it all out mate.
An keep an eye on wots left if you get anymore
Which you probly will.cut the lot down before you
Lose too much.sometimes it happens wotever you
Do.jus do a real good daily check an get em as far
As poss.

ERBURT
23-08-16, 10:04 PM
As long as thier milky your get blazed so all good : )

joker_the_smoker
23-08-16, 10:05 PM
nice1 erb mate.i will go bak in an chop. gutterd. yea they on amber am using overdrive atmin
beta then loosin any more

joker_the_smoker
23-08-16, 10:18 PM
jus chopped it then. bloody cut wrong 1 aswel bein a stone cunt haha FML

Loki
23-08-16, 10:23 PM
Fucking gutted mate, the advice above is right, cut it out & hope that it doesn't spread.

joker_the_smoker
23-08-16, 10:27 PM
330863 deed been done gutted like had sum weight init aswel!
plus choppin a healthy one by mistake :laugh: fml

joker_the_smoker
23-08-16, 10:29 PM
Fucking gutted mate, the advice above is right, cut it out & hope that it doesn't spread.

hope not mate. duno why RH been low loads air movement. gona av keep out on these even more

joker_the_smoker
24-08-16, 10:16 AM
yo Loki bro.

checked this morning after the butchering i did last night, still licking me wounds off it haha. all other buds seem tip top bro. fat and heavy. still i hope it dont go tits up.

thing is am due to move in couple weeks so running outta time. might need to start the flush either sunday or early next week dont wont to but need time for flushing plus drying so time is key here.

whats your procedure for flushing bro? also the leaves are getting real shitty already usually like they would during the flush.

HaveAGoHero
24-08-16, 12:29 PM
Well that was a good read. Sticking around for the end of this one!

Take everything I say with a massive pinch of salt.... idk what I'm doing yet

Loki
24-08-16, 01:34 PM
yo Loki bro.

checked this morning after the butchering i did last night, still licking me wounds off it haha. all other buds seem tip top bro. fat and heavy. still i hope it dont go tits up.

thing is am due to move in couple weeks so running outta time. might need to start the flush either sunday or early next week dont wont to but need time for flushing plus drying so time is key here.

whats your procedure for flushing bro? also the leaves are getting real shitty already usually like they would during the flush.
Hey Joker, 7 days is fine in coco for a flush mate, 5 at a push. As for the actual flush, I would put enough through to get 20-30% runoff every day. Don't ph the water either, straight from the tap is fine. The reason for not ph'ing is you want the plant to use up any nutrients in the medium & leaves. Having the pH out if range will force the plant to cannibalise itself of any leftover nutrition.

Sorry to hear about the bud rot mate, it's a right cunt when you get it. Hopefully you'll see it through to the end without any more popping up.

joker_the_smoker
26-08-16, 04:40 PM
yo loki.

thinking of starting the flush one day this weeknd. would like give them another week on the over drive get them even more fatter but running out time with moving house.
so was thinkin if start flush this weekend i should be good for the chop come next weekend? what you think bro?

Loki
26-08-16, 06:19 PM
yo loki.

thinking of starting the flush one day this weeknd. would like give them another week on the over drive get them even more fatter but running out time with moving house.
so was thinkin if start flush this weekend i should be good for the chop come next weekend? what you think bro?
Hey Joker, if it's a penned in deadline then I would start the flush, you'll need to give yourself time air out as chopping will stink your place something different. You'll also want to chop as close to your move date, as you don't want to have you freshly chopped buds in a box too long.

If you can give them another week, without causing a problem, then I would give them the week.

joker_the_smoker
26-08-16, 06:46 PM
yea mate am cuttin it fine tbh. wud rather go extra week but that cud fuck up flushin time. will need week flush. then chop/trim. get them back in tent for 3-4 days dry? probs gota be out current gaff b4 mid sept.

could start the flush tues chop on sunday or that not enough flush time?

joker_the_smoker
27-08-16, 11:22 AM
ballast also decided to go pop on me the other nite aswel lol. has been running 24.7 since flower. so had buy this bad boy.
331061 1000w adjustable digi dimable ballast.
also the smell is just takin the piss even with this added in before the outtake vent 331062

JimJam69
29-08-16, 07:39 AM
Well that was a good read. Sticking around for the end of this one!

Take everything I say with a massive pinch of salt.... idk what I'm doing yet

Totally agree, this has been a great diary to read guys. One of the best I've bin through, full of great info plus the added on the edge of your seat suspense... will it all be done in time for the move...can't wait for the next installment.

Loki
29-08-16, 11:29 AM
Hey Joker, if you start Tuesday & chop Sunday, that gives you 5 days worth of clean unph'ed water. That should be fine mate. Pissed about the ballast, but you got yourself a good replacement.

joker_the_smoker
29-08-16, 01:27 PM
started it this afternoon mate. with being off work thought it be good idea get the ball rollin today.so should be good to chop on sat?? yea spoke to the shop that got it from they gona replace it. but was after a bigger one anyway so happy days. thanks for help so far bro. whats you drying procedure loki if ya dont mind me askin bro.

joker_the_smoker
29-08-16, 01:32 PM
Totally agree, this has been a great diary to read guys. One of the best I've bin through, full of great info plus the added on the edge of your seat suspense... will it all be done in time for the move...can't wait for the next installment.

haha thanks bro.has been smooth sailin till near the end. an yea plenty info on here mate. am gona put all this info together so can refer to it for future auto grows.best plants i have had so far but that down to a great mentor.

HaveAGoHero
29-08-16, 01:47 PM
'Mon the autos! Lol.
Been a good toe dip in to autos. Which has been the best of the 3 strains? I'm ordering round 2 already!

Dutchcourage
29-08-16, 02:03 PM
Hi Joke the Bloke, been a week since the voldemould mate, how they looking??

joker_the_smoker
29-08-16, 07:18 PM
'Mon the autos! Lol.
Been a good toe dip in to autos. Which has been the best of the 3 strains? I'm ordering round 2 already!

:laugh: autos surprised me tbh. would say the NY or afghani. your crackin on with autos aint ya bro

joker_the_smoker
29-08-16, 07:20 PM
Hi Joke the Bloke, been a week since the voldemould mate, how they looking??

goin on dutch mate:thefinger: arr dont remind me :laugh: they all lookin sweet yano bro. keepin close eye tho mate

Dutchcourage
29-08-16, 07:37 PM
goin on dutch mate:thefinger: arr dont remind me :laugh: they all lookin sweet yano bro. keepin close eye tho mate

good news bro good news :dance2:

HaveAGoHero
29-08-16, 07:46 PM
:laugh: autos surprised me tbh. would say the NY or afghani. your crackin on with autos aint ya bro
Yeah man. 3 of the same type tho. VIP dwarfs. Not sure how they're gunna do, was worried about height in my grow space but with the lst on these autos think I'll be OK with something bigger. I'll see how these ride first tho!

joker_the_smoker
29-08-16, 08:14 PM
i will keep poppin in bro see how you crack on mate.its that stretch thats catches ya out :laugh: glad i had move in to garage for the end coz that allowed me upgrade to bigger tent.

HaveAGoHero
29-08-16, 08:21 PM
i will keep poppin in bro see how you crack on mate.its that stretch thats catches ya out :laugh: glad i had move in to garage for the end coz that allowed me upgrade to bigger tent.
I'm thinking I might get a taller cupboard to convert. I have all the stuff so just waiting for something good with the right dimensions to pop up on Gumtree for a bargain.

joker_the_smoker
31-08-16, 11:32 AM
I'm thinking I might get a taller cupboard to convert. I have all the stuff so just waiting for something good with the right dimensions to pop up on Gumtree for a bargain.

sounds like a plan mate, never have to much space :bong:

B.A.BARACUS
31-08-16, 11:56 AM
Hey joker, nice diary mate.. Chopping the wrong bud its summats i'd do lol...

Can i ask whats that 120w tube like for keeping lights off temps??

joker_the_smoker
31-08-16, 12:03 PM
Hey joker, nice diary mate.. Chopping the wrong bud its summats i'd do lol...

Can i ask whats that 120w tube like for keeping lights off temps??

oi oi BA. nice 1 mate. :laugh: arr man i smoked fat joint super silver was mega stoned and decided i was Edward scissor hands for the night :laugh:

i used it in the winter and tbh its nothin spesh it will keep the floor area nice warm but it only adds couple degrees i would say. i had that on with lights off and also a small mini oil rad on outside tent with intake suckin the warm in. i reckon two of them could be good though.

Loki
01-09-16, 08:27 PM
Hey Joker, hope all is well mate, any update in how the flush is going?

Dutchcourage
01-09-16, 08:32 PM
Yeah Joke the Bloke, gissa update :-)

joker_the_smoker
01-09-16, 10:02 PM
sorry guys been bit busy. been flushing them alot since sunday afternoon. nearly that chop time :harvest:
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joker_the_smoker
01-09-16, 10:04 PM
Hey Joker, hope all is well mate, any update in how the flush is going?

how do you go about drying your buds mate? wana follow same way you do bro

HaveAGoHero
01-09-16, 10:38 PM
Looking really frosty dude! Bet it stinks in there! 😎

joker_the_smoker
01-09-16, 10:53 PM
Looking really frosty dude! Bet it stinks in there! ��

nice 1 bro. it smells unreal . get paranoid opening tent door :laugh: hopefully get chop the weekend :harvest:

Loki
01-09-16, 11:40 PM
Hey Joker, I hang them by the stalks after trimming, make sure you leave a long stem, you can cut then down a bit when hanging them. Aim for temps around 21°c, 50-60 RH. Keep your extraction on & have a desk fan blowing but not directly at the buds. Leave for 4 days then check if a decent sized stalk snap cleanly, if not check back daily. If it does, it's time for the jars mate. Burp the jars 2-3 times daily for a week then once a day for the next week. Once the bud starts to really stink, check RH, aim for around 60% in the jars. Test small buds after the second week for smoothness and flavour. Also be vigilant for mould, it's very unlikely but it's better to be safe then sorry. The main thing is that the buds are fully dry & the stems snap clean before jarring, they will start to go airy but will tighten back up as they dry. They will also lose around 2/3rds of the weight.

joker_the_smoker
02-09-16, 11:12 AM
nice one loki pretty similar to how i did it on me 1st run. more concerned on the temps with the time of year.will just have to roll with it i guess
got all me jars mate and have these mini hygrometers 331428 stuck under neath the lids on the inside of them.
bloody mold been pain in ass, so will be keeping eye out man

joker_the_smoker
04-09-16, 10:29 AM
so chop all done. started at 9am sat morn finished at 10.30pm :laugh: hard work that shit lol. got the mrs to chip in every now an then. :laugh:
never grown buds like this before some of them were friggin huge man.
also lost another two half decent sized colas to mold! they were at back of tent air flow at back mustnt have been good enough.
had think bout why this happened i had good temps an RH thru flower with plenty fans..but i upgraded tent size from 90x90 to a 1.2mx1.2m half way through and didnt upgrade the intake and outtake so wondering if the air change wasnt good enough??
all drying out now temps are around 21.22 RH is 50/55
just hope weather dont go hot as i wont have much control of tent temps goin up

joker_the_smoker
04-09-16, 10:45 AM
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wernt sure if pics uploaded shitty 4G

Loki
04-09-16, 12:08 PM
Smashing result by the look of it mate. Well played Sir. It's been a pleasure.

HaveAGoHero
04-09-16, 12:10 PM
Nice harvest dude!!!! Congratulations!

JB
04-09-16, 12:28 PM
Nice work Joker.

Looks like you'll be in decent smoke for a good time to come.

joker_the_smoker
04-09-16, 01:55 PM
Smashing result by the look of it mate. Well played Sir. It's been a pleasure.

cheers loki mate. been great havin you as mentor on me 1st auto run. learnt alot bro. :mr: :mr:

joker_the_smoker
04-09-16, 01:56 PM
Smashing result by the look of it mate. Well played Sir. It's been a pleasure.

cheers loki mate. been great havin you as mentor on me 1st auto run. learnt alot bro. :mr: :mr:

Dutchcourage
04-09-16, 02:07 PM
Nice one Joke The Bloke, that should last yer a week ha ha, well done Loki :-)

JimJam69
04-09-16, 06:17 PM
Looking awesome dude, I hope my first grow comes close. Again a fantastic diary to read, I'm growing in soil but this has been a wonderful lesson to watch and to see how its done, nice one Joker and Loki :)

joker_the_smoker
05-09-16, 10:16 AM
Nice one Joke The Bloke, that should last yer a week ha ha, well done Loki :-)
haha if am lucky Dutchy :thefinger:



Looking awesome dude, I hope my first grow comes close. Again a fantastic diary to read, I'm growing in soil but this has been a wonderful lesson to watch and to see how its done, nice one Joker and Loki :)

thanks buddy. still learning me mate. but has be a good grow (mold issues aside) and should be decent yield for auto plants.
good luck on your mate, i will swing by if you got diary up

joker_the_smoker
12-09-16, 04:24 PM
last up date on the diary. fews pics if it all jarred up.
331997 331998
331999 332000

200g off Afghani
114g off Northern Delight
129 NYCD

Really happy with what i pulled, cudnt believe how well the afghani done it was beast from the get go though. granted i lost couple colas at back tent so would have had more but i didnt bother keeping them. probs got about 2 an half oz of airy kinda bud. rest are pretty compact. didnt help having high temps during flower with the hot weather.

looking forward to setting up again in next couple weeks once moved home.

peace out - JTS

Joe Dirt
12-09-16, 04:58 PM
Nicely done Joker! Nice buds! Enjoy the fruits of your labour.

Dutchcourage
12-09-16, 05:06 PM
Nice one Amigo, well done you and Loki, enjoy mate

JB
12-09-16, 05:20 PM
Nice haul mate and a fair bit over a g/w.

Congratulation. Looks like great smoke too. :stoned-smilie:

HaveAGoHero
12-09-16, 05:40 PM
Great result mate, I'll be trying that afghan on my next run.

Pretty serious grow for the joker;)

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Dandy1990
13-09-16, 12:31 PM
BOOOM!!

Nice one joker thats an impressive haul buddy �� been waiting on this diary update to find out what you achieved and its a banging result man i bet your over the moon, i know i would be ��

Good job brother��

Peace
Dandy ✌️

joker_the_smoker
13-09-16, 12:38 PM
Nicely done Joker! Nice buds! Enjoy the fruits of your labour.

nice one Joe already have been doing! hope that fruit punch treatin you good.


Nice one Amigo, well done you and Loki, enjoy mate

cheers Dutchy bro. Loki knows he shit for sure.


Nice haul mate and a fair bit over a g/w.

Congratulation. Looks like great smoke too. :stoned-smilie:

nice JB yea mate would more if hadnt lost few :( still pleased though. yea smokes great, the northern Delight is super tasty :weed:


Great result mate, I'll be trying that afghan on my next run.

Pretty serious grow for the joker;)

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i would defo recommend it mate, plus its heavy smoke knocks ya off feet man :laugh: The joker rarely get serious lool


BOOOM!!

Nice one joker thats an impressive haul buddy �� been waiting on this diary update to find out what you achieved and its a banging result man i bet your over the moon, i know i would be ��

Good job brother��

Peace
Dandy ✌️

goin on dandy bro, thanks buddy yeah am happy with it mate. you will have your haul soon enough bro

Blue
13-09-16, 08:13 PM
Nailed it joker, nice work mate.... Enjoy the fruits of your labour :)

B.A.BARACUS
13-09-16, 08:22 PM
Good result joker Mate :)

Moved this to completed diaries Bud.. Ohh whats next lol ?

joker_the_smoker
13-09-16, 08:27 PM
Nailed it joker, nice work mate.... Enjoy the fruits of your labour :)

thanks blue mate.them fruits always taste the best.


Good result joker Mate :)

Moved this to completed diaries Bud.. Ohh whats next lol ?

thanks BA bro. haha hmmmm we shall see matey :) cant wait though.

Viz
13-09-16, 08:46 PM
Nice one Joker, kicking some butt and taking names. Enjoy mate and looking forward to seeing what you do next.

joker_the_smoker
13-09-16, 08:59 PM
Nice one Joker, kicking some butt and taking names. Enjoy mate and looking forward to seeing what you do next.

cheers viz bro! your grow next mate . am looking forward to next one soon as am moved . hopefully set up nxt month

laaacheese
22-09-16, 03:06 PM
Nice

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SmobyToker#1
14-10-16, 09:47 AM
sorry guys been bit busy. been flushing them alot since sunday afternoon. nearly that chop time :harvest:
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331414
331415

That looks a lush smoke buddy. Wish it was in my empty jar 😣

Hedonistic Hippy
14-10-16, 09:52 AM
Missed your diary Bro ... Some damn fine looking bud in those jars ...Well done mate ....I'll try catch the start of your next diary. ..

Peace out. ..


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joker_the_smoker
14-10-16, 10:14 AM
That looks a lush smoke buddy. Wish it was in my empty jar ��

:laugh: mate i have been blastin my way through them jars :laugh: all has been nice smoke :) cheers smoby mate


Missed your diary Bro ... Some damn fine looking bud in those jars ...Well done mate ....I'll try catch the start of your next diary. ..

Peace out. ..


Sent from my mind to yours

oi oi MrD matey. cheers for teh words bro. hopefully my next one will be as good without a mentor. we will see lol. next diary be coming soon for sure :headbang: