Run from the cure

[bubbs]

check this out there are 7 video's all in all...interesting i dunno if it is that good or if its a advertising gimic, i have only watched 1 so far, lol im not sure its a cure for all though, so what do ya think ? thought i'd put it up for a debate :D
http://www.geocities.com/runfromthecure

[Riff Raff]

Good post Bubbs.

I've just watched all 7 episodes and it turns out to be a very interesting set of vids.

The point about hemp oil not being a money spinner for any of the drug companies certainly has some substance.

Since its highly probable that Goverments and drug companies are sucking each others dicks, due to the huuuuuuuge amount of money that can be made from pharmacuticals,its no wonder they want to keep marijuana illegal.
Why would they want that to happen when they can sell you a drug that might help with your cancer treatment, but unfortunately it may have some side effects, but luckily, they have more drugs that will help with the side effects.

Anyhow, that's my 2cents, for what its worth.

I wish i'd had more knowledge of this a few years ago when my mother was dying of cancer, who knows, things could have turned out differently for her. :(

[Hazza]

excellent vids just watched all seven
a think we should all stop calling it weed and start calling it the medicine.(im growing my own medicne) (or i could do with a fat medicine joint) if ya get me !
do what the goverment have done they called it weed,ganja,ect from hemp to brain wash ppl and make it sound like a bad drug!
if we all called it the medicine dont ya think more ppl will be will be more likely to try read more about it.
when we speak about weed its automatic that ppl think stoners!!!!

goverments suck dirty scumbags no wonder a dont vote! or join the army.ect corrupt fuks!GRRRRR makes me friggin angry

so many ppl can be helped. they neeeds to be broadcasted on bbc1 straight after eastenders image what the public would think then.

anyway rant over ! FUK THE GOVERMENT!!

keep growing or get growing stand up for your rights!!!!!!

[bubbs]

lol i have also now gotten round to veiwing these vids, i have to say it does get you thinking...

[Manny]

Hi folks, I emailed Ron Simpson last night & got a great reply from him & his team..Check out this link..

http://www.phoenixtears.ca/wwip.html

[bubbs]

Hi folks, I emailed Ron Simpson last night & got a great reply from him & his team..Check out this link..

http://www.phoenixtears.ca/wwip.html

hey Manny, i think this bloke is great, what do you think of the oil as a medicinal drug as a whole, do you think it would work? im realy interested in what of people's opinions on this.

[Manny]

Bubbs me & the better half are going to try & produce it come harvest time, in-fact we have just ordered a good quality rice cooker on the net & are going to source the other bits & bobs over the next few weeks..She is a diabetic amongst several other complications & her life is governed by insulin which is a major pisser..
So yeah we do think it will work & if its breaking the shitty law of this country then so be it..I love my wife & will do anything to help her alleviate her pain & suffering:greet:

[bubbs]

nice one Manny good luck with it, let me know how you get on mate ;) and i hope it works for your lovely lady

[cannydathat]

that's why its illegal no profit for the drug companies, or the D.E.A. I watched all 7 and its hard to dispute. I wish governments would wake up and look at the evidence about the benefits marijuana has to offer.
Thats the reason why the plant is in closet and not the back yard. They don't want you access to the amount it takes to make one little tube.
I think everybody should watch this

[Manny]

Well we are going to do it & will post reports as to how it affects her diabetes & in controlling the pain from extreme fibromyalgia..She suggests that all us guys take it & see if it stops us being total idiots 90% of the time:wtf:,someone is sleeping in the shed tonight:D

[bubbs]

Well we are going to do it & will post reports as to how it affects her diabetes & in controlling the pain from extreme fibromyalgia..She suggests that all us guys take it & see if it stops us being total idiots 90% of the time:wtf:,someone is sleeping in the shed tonight:D

hehehe i like your lady already :D :laugh:

[Hazza]

did manny produce some oil and try it out ?

[grassmaker]

Great video and thanks for the link bubbs.Now iam going to produce it at harvest time,i have a rice cooker,medicinal seeds as well(black domina).

[bubbs]

hey Grassmaker i wish you all the luck in the world mate, please be carefull though mate as the extraction of the oil can be very dangerous. ive not tried it myself and i do not know if it will work, hey but it cant hurt either.

please let us know how your sister is doing, and i hope it works for her and she gets better soon,

best wishes
Bubbs

[grassmaker]

shes doing fine m8y thanks for asking.has the doctor tomorrow see what he says.got the seeds i need today 16 black domina.just hope i can get 14 oz form them.

[John Smith]

YouTube - RUN FROM THE CURE - The Rick Simpson Story (Part 1 of 7)

YouTube - RUN FROM THE CURE - The Rick Simpson Story (Part 2 of 7)

YouTube - RUN FROM THE CURE - The Rick Simpson Story (Part 3 of 7)

YouTube - RUN FROM THE CURE - The Rick Simpson Story (Part 4 of 7)

YouTube - RUN FROM THE CURE - The Rick Simpson Story (Part 5 of 7)

YouTube - RUN FROM THE CURE - The Rick Simpson Story (Part 6 of 7)

YouTube - RUN FROM THE CURE - The Rick Simpson Story (Part 7 of 7)

[Ironlung]

aaww coulda linked the one from my channel :( :laugh: JK m8 , Great doc :D

[John Smith]

aaww coulda linked the one from my channel :( :laugh: JK m8 , Great doc :D

hey up Ironlung, is there anywhere you can download this as a whole peice instead of like 7 parts, without having to use a torrent or similar, dont trust bit torrents.


wasnt sure if anyone had put this up before so apologies for double threading if I have.....still a good watch though.

[iTz-Tee_H_See]

bit confuzed...
whats this actually for??
saying weed can cure cancer??

[John Smith]

bit confuzed...
whats this actually for??
saying weed can cure cancer??

Yep!:)

listen to the parts explaining the patenting of Cannabis and the wealth made by anti-cancer drug specialists and it will all fit into place.
profit not prevention.

Cannabis is dirt cheap to grow my friend.
It will grow between ya toes if there enough dirt there!

[wert]

just to add if anyone could catagorically refute this statement they would have been all over this story and rubbished the claim in every way they could.this just makes me think that there must be some truth in the claim because i am sure if it were complete unfounded rubish we would have been told many many times from different government sources to "protect"the general public.

[iTz-Tee_H_See]

even though there is still 100s of chemicals that cause cancer in it? just like in tobacco? i cant imagine anything like that being actually good for your body

[truthseeker]

Hi this is my 3rd post. Sorry I didn't check this thread out! My post does link the 7 together by the way.

Yes there are many cancer cures out there you just need to do the research and be open minded enough to see the global control which locks down these from the media. I've come onto the forum just purely to find out the legalities of growing the stuff and I'm sure if people who grow it started selling the oil some people not interested in getting high would start to buy it... I think you have a larger market with cancer patients and the health market BTW than you do with people wanting to get high from it... As cancer is now up to ~1 in 3 who get it. Getting high will be a nice side effect of the 'health drug'

I wish I'd know about this 1.5 year ago when my Dad was dyin of lung and brain tumurs then he'd be here today on Fathers day.

I also found out about Gerson therapy and Rife technolgy and Dr Bob Beck all too late for my Dad's very agressive cancer. There is also MMS miracle mineral suppliment and collidial silver.

Does anyone sell this :thcleaf: oil at a reasonable price?

[allthegoodnamesrtaken]

even though there is still 100s of chemicals that cause cancer in it? just like in tobacco? i cant imagine anything like that being actually good for your body

Most of the chemicals are added to tobacco by humans, cigs are about 30% paper with loads of shit soaked into the paper. Pure tabbaco aint that bad for ya.

[iTz-Tee_H_See]

Most of the chemicals are added to tobacco by humans, cigs are about 30% paper with loads of shit soaked into the paper. Pure tabbaco aint that bad for ya.

i didnt say tobacco BAD for you, even though it iz...
i said that i cant see smoking weed would be "Good" for you
and i say that because there is many cancer causing chemicals in weed
so it dosent make sense too me

[dekay]

Which cancer causiing chemicals in pure homegrown weed are you on about then or u on about the fact when anything is smoked it has cancerous properties but cannabis has ingredients that will fight cancer rather than cause it. If u eat weed, seeds, plant material, u would be very healthy.

[iTz-Tee_H_See]

Which cancer causiing chemicals in pure homegrown weed are you on about then or u on about the fact when anything is smoked it has cancerous properties but cannabis has ingredients that will fight cancer rather than cause it. If u eat weed, seeds, plant material, u would be very healthy.

... Cannabis smoke has more cancer causing chemicals than tobacco smoke...

[dekay]

See cannabis smoke......There isnt cancer causing anything in weed if u DONT smoke it and in fact it is good for you if u DONT smoke it, absolutely any plant burnt and smoked will be cancerous. Why u struggling to understand that if NOT smoked cannabis can actually be beneficial. I mean u could have read my post properly and then u wouldnt have needed to post anything at all no one is claiming smoking anything is a cure or good for you and they couldnt. Take away cannabis smoke replace it with cannabis then its a whole different ball game.

[iTz-Tee_H_See]

See cannabis smoke......There isnt cancer causing anything in weed if u DONT smoke it and in fact it is good for you if u DONT smoke it, absolutely any plant burnt and smoked will be cancerous. Why u struggling to understand that if NOT smoked cannabis can actually be beneficial. I mean u could have read my post properly and then u wouldnt have needed to post anything at all no one is claiming smoking anything is a cure or good for you and they couldnt. Take away cannabis smoke replace it with cannabis then its a whole different ball game.

all u put to do with eating weed was "If u eat weed, seeds, plant material, u would be very healthy." if u put... "if u eat weed, seeds, plant material, there is no cancer causing chemicals" then in that case, your right, i wouldnt have had to put anything. no1 here has said anything to do with eating weed for this, just taking weed, and the most popular way to ingest weed is by smoking it. and nah its not "Healthy" to eat weed at all, seeing as thc is not healthy for you... fact

[iTz-Tee_H_See]

and also when you put "Which cancer causiing chemicals in pure homegrown weed are you on about then" if you look it up, you will find many.

[John Smith]

even though there is still 100s of chemicals that cause cancer in it? just like in tobacco? i cant imagine anything like that being actually good for your body


I can.

Can you please show me where to find information on the 100s of cancer causing chemicals in Cannabis oil you've stated, this would greatly benefit this thread.

If your prefered method is smoking then yes! you are correct! but its no different for any plant material burned at over 800c and is why smoking anything is a flawed method to acheive medicinal goals, ingestation, topical application and smoking are three totally different ways of getting THC into your bloodstream, your lungs are simply not designed to inhale any smoke from what ever source.
Barbequed Chicken and steamed chicken.... are both cooked chicken, one will have more carcinogens present due to the process/method of cooking chosen, this can be applied to vegetable matter also.


It is also worth mentioning that there are 400 ingredients added to tobacco that when burned contribute to many heat caused chemical & gas changes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_additives_in_cigarettes
One significant issue in reply to your post is that while all these chemical compounds have been approved as additives in food, they were not tested by burning.
Burning changes the properties of chemicals. More than 4,000 chemical compounds are created by burning a cigarette.


MJ if fed on Organic matter through its life, when cropped should not hold a great deal of additional unwanted elements or chemical constituents and the oil extraction method described in the video locks out 99% of the water based plant elements in favour of oil based plant materials, theses are then ingested or used topically not smoked.

[iTz-Tee_H_See]

www.highbeam.com - "Scientists have identified more than 150 cancer causing chemicals in marijuana smoke and tar. Marijuana smoke contains cancer-causing chemicals such as benzopyrene, which occurs 70 percent more in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke"

[iTz-Tee_H_See]

www.cannabisheaven.co.uk - "It's hard to know for sure whether regular cannabis use causes cancer. But it is known that cannabis contains some of the same, and sometimes even more, of the cancer-causing chemicals found in tobacco smoke. Studies show that someone who smokes five joints per day may be taking in as many cancer-causing chemicals as someone who smokes a full pack of cigarettes every day"

[John Smith]

good stuff iTz-Tee_H_See!!!


This clarifies my point made earlier, and raises another question...

Are these same harmful chemicals that are prevailant in Cannabis smoke also in the oil made in this video - or better still - are these chemicals created by the very process of burning the Cannabis at very high temperatures only???

It would be difficult to know for certain, without unbaised testing, what chemicals are actually present in the Cannabis oil and if these are metabolised into more chemicals by the body.
I already know from my own Oil making exercises that certain brands of IPA leave a residue behind after evaporation but this is only because here in England its very hard to get hold of 100% alcohol to acheive this oil extraction and de-natured alcohol is the next best thing (which the guy in the video does actually mention)

THC is metabolised into many varients of similar partical structure by the human liver, the main one being 11-Hydroxy-9-THC which is not psychoactive but still plays a role in the analgesic and anti-inflammatory effects of cannabis.

after more research I will post up my findings.
I hope We are all now in agreeing that smoking is indeed detrimental to the human body.

[John Smith]

Here's why smoking weed isn't enough to help you live a cancer free life.
What Is Cancer?
First we must understand what most cancerous types are. They are renigade
cells. Cells have preset instructions imposed on them by RNA. RNA is in
essence of how the body communicates on a Cell to Cell bases. The brain
can also communicate with cells directly through nuro-cell pathways. This
means that the brain has a kill switch inbedded in every "normal
functioning" cell. Cells typically know how to degernate, and die through
it's preliminary coding, and as messages of RNA become less frequent the
cell initiates a termination sequence. Once a cell becomes a certain age
and has not terminated the brain will communicate through the pathways
and terminate the cells of mature age.
Cancer is what happens when the cell has evolved to turn off it's kill
switch, and fails to intiate it's termination sequence. This evolution or
mutation if you will causes the cell instead of receiving signals through
the pathways to issuing it's own signals to surround cells. So not only
does the cell refuse to die, and continue to grow, and divide, but it
tells the cells around it to forum resource networks to feed it's
capacity. It in essence cancer is a rouge cell who refuses to listen to
the instructions provided by the brain.
Now this rouge cell once started eliminates competition by telling the
surround cells to direct resouces to it instead of it's self, it also
will manipulate plateletes organization to direct the construction of
viens for more immediate resouce delivery (blood). The surround cells are
under provisioned and in turn are harmed and die as they were trained to
do. Through rapid division cancer is encouraged through the ability to
surquester an almost unlimited amount of resources the rouge cell now has
a grouping. So now the process multiplies exponetionally to a horric
extent as all the dividees are deviders and the cycle is continued
perpetually. These GROUPS of Cancerous cells can sometime break apart as
Iceburgs in the ocean can. So a piece is carried away in the blood stream
and it is carried to another part of the body where it bunkers down and
continues it's division and in essence it's draining the body of
resources. The greed of the Cancer, is unsurpassed. It wants everything.
Ever last drop of essence.
So Cancer does not die through traditional cell management systems.
Cancer is self provisioning, meaning it can direct the operation of
surrounding cells, through broadcasting signals. Cancer also spreads and
depletes the surrounding by redirecting resource networks and sometimes
developing from scratch it's own resource networks which causes death of
normal cells which in turn causes the inoperation of vital systems.
So that is what Cancer is; clumpings of rouge cells who control vast
networks draining their surroundings for their own gain at the cellular
level.
How has THC been Shown to help fight Cancer
Through Clinical Animal testing and ANNIDOTAL Human testing researches,
scientists and doctors around the world have discovered many exciting
properties of THC when introduced to a cancerous body. First and foremost
it is important to know the limitations people encounter when trying to
reasearch Cannabis and THC is countries with prohibitionist policies. In
the USA one Univeristy of Mississippi hold the exlusive rights to produce
Cannabis in the USA. All researchers must gain permission frist through
the government federally and then request supplies through the
University. The federal government only allows research to animals, for
harm research. Human testing is allowed but only on psycoactive
properties, nothing pertaining to health testing in humans is approved.
So getting a permit in the USA to research the health impacts of patients
with human patients for cancer is impossible. However it has been done
outside the government approved Double-Blind policy which was only
established in the medical community in the 1960's. That's not that long
considering practitioners and researchers have existed for a very very
long time. But I digress. And when double blinded clincal trials are able
to be done it's only on animals. Mainly Mice and Chimps.
So here's the genious of modern day science. Research's can't test on the
health effects of THC on the body, atleast in the USA. But they can test
on Human cells, either in dishes or in live hosts like mice. Researchers
have used mice to house all sorts of cancerous cells from human cancers
and subjected the mouse to various THC treatments using mainly THC
synthetics.
However many many research articles posted in very reputable scientific
journals has found that THC does impede the growth of Cancerous regions.
When THC is introduced through the blood by means of ingestion and
digestion the cancerous growth is reduced in size and productivity It
appears that THC reinables the kill switch function through the nuro
pathway. So THC incaptures or encircles the cancerous cell and restricts
it's communication systems. It re-enables the receiving of nuro signals,
and disabled the sending of signals out. This impact is two fold. First
the cancerous region lose control of the resource network and resources
go back to funding healthy cells. This limites the reproduction of of
cancerous cells.
So we know cancer are cells that don't die just divide and expand. So
cutting off the resource network need to fun division would just stop the
rapid rate of division if that alone was THC's only role. However by THC
re-enabling the kill switch system, cells reduce in numbers. Now it's
safe to say that if the resouce network is funding healthy cells and not
rouge cells, and the thc introduced is enabling the brain to pull the
switch and reduce the numbers of the cells, the process of RINSE LATHER
REPEAT would lead to the complete destruction of cancerous cells
outright.
Thats pretty DAMN important I think.
Why does Smoking Cannabis not keep me cancer free?
The answer to this question is in the science of smoking and in the
biology of the lungs.
First and foremost 95% of the harm from smoking tobacco is from inhaling
the COMBUSTED PLANT MATERIAL. So in essence by lighting the plant on fire
you are combusting that material, that combustion creates dangerous
chemical concoqutions that enter the lungs. The same is true of smoking
cannabis. THC is attracted to degenerate cells. Cells show age or
maturity by their cell wall. Their cell wall become damages as a shield
does in battle, microscopic dents, diviots, gashs that have been sealed
all distort the cell wall, enabling THC to suction to it. If you are
inhaling THC and chemicals that cause cell mutation at the same time the
main effort of the THC will be binding to the damaged cells in your lungs
and not be evenally spread through out the body.
Also when Combusting the plant material you are in essence losing some
THC through side smoke, BONG, BOWL OR JOINT.
Here is the other reason smoking THC is ineffective for medication when
medication is aimed at disease treatment and not sympton treatment. All
one needs to do is look up the science of breathing through Human Lungs.
The Human lung is terribly inefficeint. Ambient "AIR" as we call it has
about 22% oxygen in it. Of that 22% Oxygen that is inhaled through
breath. about 15%of exhailed. Meaning only about 7% was absorbed.
Cannabis Content is on average according to Seedbanks I have looked at
around 20%. Now how they are getting this is questionable. If they are
using the Canadian Governments standard of measuring THC content then in
essence what they are doing is making OIL and then testing the THC
content of that oil. So since I don't know how the seed banks are testing
this we will have to use this standard for now.
Here is the link that outlines the process if you want to read it;
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/pubs/.../sec_1-eng.php
So here's the thing.... 20% is not 20% of the plants weight, or the
flower weight or the leaf rate, its 20% of the trichome. 20% of that
trichomes chemical composition is THC. On average when making oil 1 LB of
Cannabis flowerheads, manicured will get you about 3 oz of oil.
Lets do the math, 453.5 grams of Cannabis gets dedouced to about 85 grams
of oil. Thats a removal of almost 80% of the base material. So in essence
trichoms make up about 20% of the Manicured Flower Heads. However THC is
not the only Chemical in oil I remind you.
So you have 85 grams of Oil, and 20% of that oil is THC. So in actuality
of your original 453.5 grams of Cannbis bud 17 grams are pure
concentrated THC. 3.75 percent of your flower head is concentrated THC
compaired to weight. That percentage decreases when you look at the WHOLE
PLANTS MASS of course.
lets break this down to real terms. You smoke 1 gram of Dried Plant
Material Cannabis. 0.2 of that Bud is Trichome (you hope LOL) and 0.2 of
the 0.2 is THC. So in reality you are smoking 0.04 actual THC.
Now lets factor in the science of smoking which is going to show that
there is THC burned that is not inhaled from the 1 gram base. Meaning
some is wasted in burn off. And the science of the lungs and their
inefficeint nature. lets say only a modest 10% burn off is wasted.
0.04 THC with 10% burn off equals 0.036 THC inhaled from 1 gram dried and
manicured. Ontop of this the Human lungs are on average only going to
absorb 7% of that 0.036 which means you will only get 0.0025 THC in your
system per gram smoked.
You don't need to be a genius to realize that isn't going to be enough to
supply all of the sources that use THC or take THC away from the blood
stream. First impact is with the damaged cells that naturally occur in
the lungs caused by smoking hot burning plant material.Second after being
passed into the blood and sent directly to the brain you have a depletion
of THC levels from the CB1 and CB2 receptors which give you the high.
Then the THC that managed to not come in contact with Aged cells is
passed through the blood to the cancerous region. Unfortunatly at this
time the level of THC introduced to the body is and finally to the
cancerous regions is not enough to over come the divisions of cancer
cells that went untouched by THC.
So what I am saying is that smoking will kill cancer, just not in the
doses needed to sercumvent the cancer's networks and numbers.
So EAT IT... that way from 1 gram of bud eatten it's 0.04 not 0.0025. Or
eat Oil which is better. beause then it's not 0.04 injested it's 20% of
the core amount eatten. so 1gram of eatten oil would be .2 THC and
introduced to the blood and organs before going straight to the brain.
__________________
Would you grow Cannabis to save your life? Your family's?
Under Any Charter - You have a Right to Life
Http://www.PhoenixTears.ca
http://www.sethgroup.org/videos.html

[iTz-Tee_H_See]

Here's why smoking weed isn't enough to help you live a cancer free life.
What Is Cancer?
First we must understand what most cancerous types are. They are renigade
cells. Cells have preset instructions imposed on them by RNA. RNA is in
essence of how the body communicates on a Cell to Cell bases. The brain
can also communicate with cells directly through nuro-cell pathways. This
means that the brain has a kill switch inbedded in every "normal
functioning" cell. Cells typically know how to degernate, and die through
it's preliminary coding, and as messages of RNA become less frequent the
cell initiates a termination sequence. Once a cell becomes a certain age
and has not terminated the brain will communicate through the pathways
and terminate the cells of mature age.
Cancer is what happens when the cell has evolved to turn off it's kill
switch, and fails to intiate it's termination sequence. This evolution or
mutation if you will causes the cell instead of receiving signals through
the pathways to issuing it's own signals to surround cells. So not only
does the cell refuse to die, and continue to grow, and divide, but it
tells the cells around it to forum resource networks to feed it's
capacity. It in essence cancer is a rouge cell who refuses to listen to
the instructions provided by the brain.
Now this rouge cell once started eliminates competition by telling the
surround cells to direct resouces to it instead of it's self, it also
will manipulate plateletes organization to direct the construction of
viens for more immediate resouce delivery (blood). The surround cells are
under provisioned and in turn are harmed and die as they were trained to
do. Through rapid division cancer is encouraged through the ability to
surquester an almost unlimited amount of resources the rouge cell now has
a grouping. So now the process multiplies exponetionally to a horric
extent as all the dividees are deviders and the cycle is continued
perpetually. These GROUPS of Cancerous cells can sometime break apart as
Iceburgs in the ocean can. So a piece is carried away in the blood stream
and it is carried to another part of the body where it bunkers down and
continues it's division and in essence it's draining the body of
resources. The greed of the Cancer, is unsurpassed. It wants everything.
Ever last drop of essence.
So Cancer does not die through traditional cell management systems.
Cancer is self provisioning, meaning it can direct the operation of
surrounding cells, through broadcasting signals. Cancer also spreads and
depletes the surrounding by redirecting resource networks and sometimes
developing from scratch it's own resource networks which causes death of
normal cells which in turn causes the inoperation of vital systems.
So that is what Cancer is; clumpings of rouge cells who control vast
networks draining their surroundings for their own gain at the cellular
level.
How has THC been Shown to help fight Cancer
Through Clinical Animal testing and ANNIDOTAL Human testing researches,
scientists and doctors around the world have discovered many exciting
properties of THC when introduced to a cancerous body. First and foremost
it is important to know the limitations people encounter when trying to
reasearch Cannabis and THC is countries with prohibitionist policies. In
the USA one Univeristy of Mississippi hold the exlusive rights to produce
Cannabis in the USA. All researchers must gain permission frist through
the government federally and then request supplies through the
University. The federal government only allows research to animals, for
harm research. Human testing is allowed but only on psycoactive
properties, nothing pertaining to health testing in humans is approved.
So getting a permit in the USA to research the health impacts of patients
with human patients for cancer is impossible. However it has been done
outside the government approved Double-Blind policy which was only
established in the medical community in the 1960's. That's not that long
considering practitioners and researchers have existed for a very very
long time. But I digress. And when double blinded clincal trials are able
to be done it's only on animals. Mainly Mice and Chimps.
So here's the genious of modern day science. Research's can't test on the
health effects of THC on the body, atleast in the USA. But they can test
on Human cells, either in dishes or in live hosts like mice. Researchers
have used mice to house all sorts of cancerous cells from human cancers
and subjected the mouse to various THC treatments using mainly THC
synthetics.
However many many research articles posted in very reputable scientific
journals has found that THC does impede the growth of Cancerous regions.
When THC is introduced through the blood by means of ingestion and
digestion the cancerous growth is reduced in size and productivity It
appears that THC reinables the kill switch function through the nuro
pathway. So THC incaptures or encircles the cancerous cell and restricts
it's communication systems. It re-enables the receiving of nuro signals,
and disabled the sending of signals out. This impact is two fold. First
the cancerous region lose control of the resource network and resources
go back to funding healthy cells. This limites the reproduction of of
cancerous cells.
So we know cancer are cells that don't die just divide and expand. So
cutting off the resource network need to fun division would just stop the
rapid rate of division if that alone was THC's only role. However by THC
re-enabling the kill switch system, cells reduce in numbers. Now it's
safe to say that if the resouce network is funding healthy cells and not
rouge cells, and the thc introduced is enabling the brain to pull the
switch and reduce the numbers of the cells, the process of RINSE LATHER
REPEAT would lead to the complete destruction of cancerous cells
outright.
Thats pretty DAMN important I think.
Why does Smoking Cannabis not keep me cancer free?
The answer to this question is in the science of smoking and in the
biology of the lungs.
First and foremost 95% of the harm from smoking tobacco is from inhaling
the COMBUSTED PLANT MATERIAL. So in essence by lighting the plant on fire
you are combusting that material, that combustion creates dangerous
chemical concoqutions that enter the lungs. The same is true of smoking
cannabis. THC is attracted to degenerate cells. Cells show age or
maturity by their cell wall. Their cell wall become damages as a shield
does in battle, microscopic dents, diviots, gashs that have been sealed
all distort the cell wall, enabling THC to suction to it. If you are
inhaling THC and chemicals that cause cell mutation at the same time the
main effort of the THC will be binding to the damaged cells in your lungs
and not be evenally spread through out the body.
Also when Combusting the plant material you are in essence losing some
THC through side smoke, BONG, BOWL OR JOINT.
Here is the other reason smoking THC is ineffective for medication when
medication is aimed at disease treatment and not sympton treatment. All
one needs to do is look up the science of breathing through Human Lungs.
The Human lung is terribly inefficeint. Ambient "AIR" as we call it has
about 22% oxygen in it. Of that 22% Oxygen that is inhaled through
breath. about 15%of exhailed. Meaning only about 7% was absorbed.
Cannabis Content is on average according to Seedbanks I have looked at
around 20%. Now how they are getting this is questionable. If they are
using the Canadian Governments standard of measuring THC content then in
essence what they are doing is making OIL and then testing the THC
content of that oil. So since I don't know how the seed banks are testing
this we will have to use this standard for now.
Here is the link that outlines the process if you want to read it;
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/pubs/.../sec_1-eng.php
So here's the thing.... 20% is not 20% of the plants weight, or the
flower weight or the leaf rate, its 20% of the trichome. 20% of that
trichomes chemical composition is THC. On average when making oil 1 LB of
Cannabis flowerheads, manicured will get you about 3 oz of oil.
Lets do the math, 453.5 grams of Cannabis gets dedouced to about 85 grams
of oil. Thats a removal of almost 80% of the base material. So in essence
trichoms make up about 20% of the Manicured Flower Heads. However THC is
not the only Chemical in oil I remind you.
So you have 85 grams of Oil, and 20% of that oil is THC. So in actuality
of your original 453.5 grams of Cannbis bud 17 grams are pure
concentrated THC. 3.75 percent of your flower head is concentrated THC
compaired to weight. That percentage decreases when you look at the WHOLE
PLANTS MASS of course.
lets break this down to real terms. You smoke 1 gram of Dried Plant
Material Cannabis. 0.2 of that Bud is Trichome (you hope LOL) and 0.2 of
the 0.2 is THC. So in reality you are smoking 0.04 actual THC.
Now lets factor in the science of smoking which is going to show that
there is THC burned that is not inhaled from the 1 gram base. Meaning
some is wasted in burn off. And the science of the lungs and their
inefficeint nature. lets say only a modest 10% burn off is wasted.
0.04 THC with 10% burn off equals 0.036 THC inhaled from 1 gram dried and
manicured. Ontop of this the Human lungs are on average only going to
absorb 7% of that 0.036 which means you will only get 0.0025 THC in your
system per gram smoked.
You don't need to be a genius to realize that isn't going to be enough to
supply all of the sources that use THC or take THC away from the blood
stream. First impact is with the damaged cells that naturally occur in
the lungs caused by smoking hot burning plant material.Second after being
passed into the blood and sent directly to the brain you have a depletion
of THC levels from the CB1 and CB2 receptors which give you the high.
Then the THC that managed to not come in contact with Aged cells is
passed through the blood to the cancerous region. Unfortunatly at this
time the level of THC introduced to the body is and finally to the
cancerous regions is not enough to over come the divisions of cancer
cells that went untouched by THC.
So what I am saying is that smoking will kill cancer, just not in the
doses needed to sercumvent the cancer's networks and numbers.
So EAT IT... that way from 1 gram of bud eatten it's 0.04 not 0.0025. Or
eat Oil which is better. beause then it's not 0.04 injested it's 20% of
the core amount eatten. so 1gram of eatten oil would be .2 THC and
introduced to the blood and organs before going straight to the brain.
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Would you grow Cannabis to save your life? Your family's?
Under Any Charter - You have a Right to Life
Http://www.PhoenixTears.ca
http://www.sethgroup.org/videos.html

Woooo, Thats Where I Stop :banghead: Lolz.
This Topic Seemz To Be Done With Lmao
Peace.

[united hemp]

thc hemp oil cure's more than cancers!
history calls it a cure all!
here is a link to help you re understand that hemp is the most medicinal plant on earth
and we need to support ricks work not just with words but with some money,this great work is for all humanity.
if anyone would like research on hemp.
i can help just email me at
[email protected]

here is a link that should be link every where!
http://antiquecannabisbook.com/

[AllAboutM.E]

Finally watched Run From The Cure, interesting stuff. If I am being really really picky, they needed to shine up the video a bit, in places it was a bit cringey. By no means is it a convincing film, but it really is enough to spark interest and thought. If nothing else, it has very honourable intentions and I support Rick Simpson for what he is doing!! I know some cancer sufferers, you can bet your arse I'm recommending them try hemp oil, it won't hurt them!

Hairy Guerilla, COME BACK YOU INSANELY BEARDED MAN! You really do need to come back, please?!

[GrassHopper]

just to add if anyone could catagorically refute this statement they would have been all over this story and rubbished the claim in every way they could.this just makes me think that there must be some truth in the claim because i am sure if it were complete unfounded rubish we would have been told many many times from different government sources to "protect"the general public.

Wey Hey! :D wert me old mate, where've you been? when did you come back? :mr: :headbang:
:bump::bump::bump::bump::bump::bump:


I have to say, I'm a bit sceptical about the whole thing. £$000,000s have been spent on cancer research, surely cannabis would have been tested a long time ago, surely no-one gonna hide a cure for cancer just because of money :confused:



ingestation, topical application and smoking are three totally different ways of getting THC into your bloodstream,

Has anyone ever tried it as a suppository? :rvmp:

[a13x]

idunno about a cure but it would certainly improve quality of life for someone going through kemo or radiotherapy, burn any plant and itll give you cancer but if you eat cannabis it can be beneficial, there has even been cannabis found in the stomachs of dead pregnant women from ages back in history and some suggestions that if ingested can help with pregnancy

[teacup75]

Rick Simpsons new interview / video

rick gets into some topics i have not heard him talk about before,such as false flags and much more, i do not want to say to much in case i spoil it.Enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYMQ4huEqK8

[JellyBomb]

It is cool explaining the patenting of Cannabis

[Macky]

Hi chat. I wonder if cigarettes make bad for lungs, heart and erection, what cannabis do? I want to know, cause I started to feel pain in prostate. I am a smoker for 10 years. I use a lot of pills now and even viagra australia to have sex, so I need to know, can I use cannabis instead of cigarettes without health loss?

No links outside the forum please mate. Smoking anything is bad for you. Even cannabis. It will clog your arteries and cause heart disease, and other health problem. Take ganja the healthiest way by eating it.