Major Whitey?

[Boar]

Evening ladies and gents

Have been smoking weed for about 3 years socially, about 1 year ago i drank some mushroom tea (about 100 shrooms :stoned-smilie: ) and me and me mate decided to roll up a double skinner with it packed about as far as the paper would stretch :stoned-smilie::stoned-smilie:. Midway through the joint i felt like time would freeze for a aplit-second, then carry on - almost as if I was blacking out for a split second at a time. I went inside and lied down, but then i blacked out and woke up with me mates gathered around me. i think i said 'i dont want to die' which I was really embarrassed about afterwards! lol.
After a few hours i was felling better and the next day felt ok. A few weeks later i gave the shrooms another go and didnt black out but basically had a whitey for about 4 hours and was ill for about 3 days afterwards.

I find that smoking too much weed now makes me start to worry about it and then it gets worser and worse, if i tell myself its all ok and try and concentrate on something else i am usually ok.

Trouble is, i even start feeling it when i drink too much alcohol now! Anything that affects me mentally like drink or weed and i feel like im tripping out.

Anyone else had this or have this? any suggestions?

Currently have a lowryder #2 on the grow and should be ready in about 4 weeks - I am hoping to build up my tolerance really slowly and see if that works - good idea?

Any input is appreciated

[up2nogood]

you shouldn't be taking magic mushrooms and cannabis at same time mate..no wonder you had a whitey..I had 200 mushrooms in a cup of tea what my mate made me and I didnt even know he put them in..I was spaced out in 15 mins and was like that for 8 hours...panicking for ages..haven't touched them for over 27 years..just slow down and take it easy..

[Master Poet]

I do shrooms over the summer usually about 4/5 times and ALWAYS smoke while I'm on them and never had a problem with it. To be frank (and I don't mean the twat on the talk to frank ads) I would take a break for a while. When the Lowryder is ready cure it first before you start to smoke it. When you do, just start off with a tiny amount maybe a 1/4 of what you would usually put in or less and just take a couple of tokes and put it down, give yourself 10 mins and if you're feeling ok take another couple. Half way through put it down for an hour and see how you feel. If your feeling bad just put it to one side, also I would suggest not drinking if your having a smoke, with some people the 2 don't mix well, either 1 or the other but not both together. Just one other thing, DON'T do shrooms again. If you find that weed is making you feel that bad then it's best to steer clear of it and likewise with the booze. Hard to do? Then you have a problem and need to get it sorted out ASAP.

Your health and sanity MUST come first.

[Bobby Digital]

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Smoking weed is a must when you tripping out on shrooms :laugh:

To reiterate what poet said take it easy for a while and wean your way back outa reality, slowly.....

































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[dazed-n-confuzed]

I do shrooms over the summer usually about 4/5 times and ALWAYS smoke while I'm on them and never had a problem with it. To be frank (and I don't mean the twat on the talk to frank ads) I would take a break for a while. When the Lowryder is ready cure it first before you start to smoke it. When you do, just start off with a tiny amount maybe a 1/4 of what you would usually put in or less and just take a couple of tokes and put it down, give yourself 10 mins and if you're feeling ok take another couple. Half way through put it down for an hour and see how you feel. If your feeling bad just put it to one side, also I would suggest not drinking if your having a smoke, with some people the 2 don't mix well, either 1 or the other but not both together. Just one other thing, DON'T do shrooms again. If you find that weed is making you feel that bad then it's best to steer clear of it and likewise with the booze. Hard to do? Then you have a problem and need to get it sorted out ASAP.


Your health and sanity MUST come first.

That my good man, is some sound advice!

[Boar]

Cheers guys - Smoking a joint when you are 'coming down' off the shrooms gets you fired right back up, like coming up on an E - amazing feeling! but as i have found out, you can only take it so far :(
I used to roll my joint with a small amount of baccy in just to help keep it burning, might start making it 50/50 for a while, see how i get on.

I dont think i have a problem with weed/drink, just almost a mini panic attack every time - stop being such a woman and get on with it i suppose, as with most things, its 99% psychological.

[cannamancan]

My m8 got some flya geric from the lakes for me , how much do u take of them? I'm dying to try them but not touching shot until I know wots wot .

[Boar]

Dont eat it raw - make sure you dry it first.
Have only ever had liberty caps myself as they grow literally in their thousands in the fields near my house.
The best way to prepare fly agaric is to grind it in a coffee grinder, boil it in a tea strainer, than drink the water when it is all boiled. Then lie down and go to sleep. Your dreams will be much more vivid and extremely intense, and you may feel upon awakening that you are lucid dreaming. Then hold on tight and prepare for an extremely wild ride!

Another, but much more taboo, way of getting the psychoactive qualities out of it is to eat them and drink a lot of water with it. Then urinate into a cup and drink your own urine. This method has been done for thousands of years by shamans. You will definitaly trip major fucking balls, if you have the stomach to drink your own piss.

And dont smoke any weed, if you do, have a small joint when your sure you are coming down off of it.

Found this on another website (i know mods dont like linking to other sites e.t.c so copy and paste time :))

Preparing Fly Agaric

This method is not something simply read from a book and passed along. It is a tried and true method (by myself an many others). This wonderful carpophore has a oddly dangerous "taboo" surrounding it which is undeserved. Granted, it does contain some toxins. These have been HIGHLY overemphasized, *PLUS* there has been a great deal of misinformation about this mushroom (and its species cousins.). This is due to a number of reasons which I will try to make clear here.
First; the procedure. Make sure the cap to stem ratio is kept about 3:1, the same as it is found per mushroom in the natural state. Dry on screen in the oven on the lowest setting with door cracked open. This only takes an hour or so at most. Render into a powder in a small electric coffee or spice grinder/mill; the finer the better. I try to attain a powder size like baking powder and certainly finer than coffee. This WILL NOT affect the activity of the end product, it only makes ingestion more difficult. Use around 1 cup water per dose and start with a bit more than this to allow for evaporation during processing.
The lower end dose/person is 8 grams dried and the upper end is 15 to 20 grams dried. What follows is the most important part of the entire ritual of preparation. Bring the water up to within a few degrees of 190 degrees (F). Use a high quality candy thermometer or better yet, a lab thermometer. This temperature shouldn't vary more than 22 degrees on the upper end. A little simmering won't kill it, but it is an indication that one has reached at least 212. You'll find stirring lowers the temperature very quickly, but it's best to keep a close eye on things throughout. Once 190 has been reached, stir in the powered material and leave to steep at least 30 minutes. I usually leave it there for at least 1/2 hour to 3/4 hour, stirring frequently.

Allow to cool until warm enough to drink. That's all there is to it!

The active principle in Amanita muscaria was, until quite recently, thought to be muscarine. Dr. Albert Hofmann and Dr. Richard Schultes have discovered, in tandem with Dr. Eugster in Switzerland and Dr. Takemoto in Japan, MAINLY ibotenic acid and muscimole as the active principles. The ibotenic acid fraction is converted, via the refluxing in water, into muscimole. Inconsequential amounts of other alkaloids ARE present, but largely inactive mentally.

Muscarine is also present in this mushroom in tiny amounts and is converted to muscimole during the reflux as well. It remains intact in the raw mushroom, however!

Part of the reasons behind the medical misinformation surrounding Amanita muscaria is due to the fact that many people who have presented to physicians with stated "mushroom poisoning" were generally thought to have ingested A. phalloides. They then usually promptly administer atropine, which would be fine if one HAD INDEED ingested this toxic mushroom. But it only exacerbates toxic effects of the raw Amanita muscaria several hundred fold, sometimes resulting in the death of the patient (and this only infrequently..) Known deaths recorded from it are rare. These have usually been children who ate HUGE amounts of the RAW mushroom. One child died only after eating almost two dozen large raw specimens.

Abstain from ALL OTHER drugs for 24 hours previous to ingestion, with the exception of sativa/indica or tobacco. Likewise during the entire experience and 8 or so after. From 1/2 to 1 1/2 hours after ingestion (preferably on an empty stomach) you will begin to get drowsy. You may notice (on higher doses), slightly blurred vision, watery eyes and/or a bit of a runny nose. One will begin to feel increasingly relaxed. At this point it is important to lie down in a area where you will not be disturbed and sleep.

This stage is critical. I find a alchemical analogy of the body, in this case being the alembic, in which the crude product is transformed into the purest soma. Dreaming can be EXTREMELY intense, and sometimes the transition from dreaming to what seems a clear and lucid dream upon awakening presents itself. Awakening and arising is like a caterpillar metamorphosing into a butterfly. This is not like anything else.

It is most certainly NOT like psilocybin! The more you become familiar with the glorious qualities, the better the symbiosis between the two of you will be. Superior pain relief, floating euphoria, effortless movement and general feelIngs of peace and well beIng. Another thing I noticed is the almost complete and effortless quieting of the "internal chatter" inside my mind. My friend, Triple Six, and I both agreed that it lends itself perfectly to long periods of meditation. These are all at the 8 to 10 gram level.

Above that (which one should have a non-ingesting guide; but I suppose if I need to be telling anybody that, they shouldn't even be contemplating this anyway) one may experience out-of-body experiences, seeing and communicating with preternatural entities, unity with the object of ones attention, ESP, feelings of flying and many differing types of ecstasy.

Today, this mushroom is totally legal. Don't frivolously abuse it, and it will probably remain that way. It is unique in that it doesn't lend itself to abuse by ignorant, impulsive, impatient and/or irresponsible people. It seems to have a built in safeguard in that it requires the user to follow a few more rules and attend to more detail in order to achieve success. If not used correctly, it screens out others by making them so sick, they are in no hurry to repeat the experience. Used incorrectly, it is uncomfortable at best and dangerous at worst.

Used correctly, it is pleasurable at its worst and limitlessly creative, intensely ecstatic, universally beneficial and incredibly healing at its best!



- i know this kinda contradicts my previous posts but id rather someone know what they're on about than walk into it wanting....

[Dirk Gently]

I don't want to be the party pooper but isn't 'shroom talk a no no on the forum? I only say because:

a) don't want you guys getting modded and

b) If it's OK, I wanna know about 'shrooms.

[cannamancan]

shit, i didnt even think man, wr gonna get a bollockin .

[Dirk Gently]

I hope it's ok to say pm me about shrooms. I want to learn how to identify them. Anyone.

[FourTwoZero]

If you're in the UK then you just missed the season anyway, I'm afraid. They die out when it starts getting frosty in the mornings, usually early November. For next year look up identifying liberty caps on Google. They have a few distinctive features that set them apart from look alikes. :)

[Eggbox]

Thread locked. Too much class A talk, and too many people who look as if they're about to poison themselves with Fly Agarics, lol