stopping cannabis help me plz !!!

[savemoney]

hello again im here to ask a few qeustions about my problems i will tell you y im stopping weed first .
i have one child at the moment and not long ago found out im goin to b a dad again its hard for me to keep smoking as it cost so much so i decided to stop so as of last week i stopped first day i smoked what i had left on my trey then the second day nothing third day nothing all mornin and after noon then i was eattin my tea when all ov a sudden i just felt sick and off my food i said to my gf i dont feel right then about an hour after me tryin to relax i felt i was getting worse so i thought it was the weed i felt horrible so i went out and got some weed came home and made a joint and put in a normal amount as i would and start to smoke it i felt very sick and neverse i just didnt feel right i didnt even get half way threw my joint and thats not like me so i tryed to play some computer games to try and forget what i was feeling like i was feeling sick like at the bottom of my stomach my heart didnt feel right like it was nerverse if you no what i mean so i decided to go to bed when i got in bed an lay down all these thoughts was goin round in my head and my heart was racing i was finding it hard to breath and swollow i tryed to stop thinking and relax then when i was just drifting of i was woken by myself coz i felt like i had stopped breathing now this has scared me like mad . now i have been feeling dizzy and sick and pannicy since i didnt eat much when i was stoned i would just have my tea no breakfast no dinner nothin till i had tea so i thought my dizzyness was because i wasnt eatting so i have been eatting alot more and im still feeling dizzy so i thought i will try a little joint c if it goes away but i cant seem to relax with the weed no more it seems as if the weed is making me worse the dizzyness is still there after a joint so i havent smoked no where near as much as i was lets say a 20 bag would have lasted me an my gf 2 an half day depending when i bout it so i was goin threw nearly 6g a week i bought this 20 bag a week today i still got bout 4 joints left i have been testing to c if these feeling was coming from the weed but it doesnt look that way the weed might be bringing the pannics out but thats because im thinkin its the weed . the dizzyness is when i stand and walk about and seems to get worse the longer i stand then the pannics come coz i dont no y im dizzy then that starts me off worrying i dont feel very dizzy when im sat down or watching telly or on my computers just when im thinking or walking about or doing both i have no problems stopping weed as i have done this twice before but have had pannics of stopping but have gone away after a few weeks never dizzyness i was a bit of a couch potato when i was on the weed always on games as the weed help me think wot i was doing i drank i few coffees a day none after tea tho has any1 got any thoughts on this thanks

[Goodbuddy]

Can you slow down a little and talk in paragraphs pls :)

[bigbongs]

Go see your doctor mate if it's that bad. Get some proper advice of a qualified professional mate not us stoners.

[savemoney]

ill try i feel very dizzy after stoppin weed pannicy and sick i have a joint and still feel the same the dizzyness doesnt seem to be as bad when im sat down but i notice it when im stood up or walkin about im not sure if its because i stopped or wot im not very good at writing things and i dont no wot a paragraph is i didnt go to school much and hated english sry if you cant understand me

[savemoney]

this is wot i think is happening to me i stopped the weed now i feel somethin is missing witch has made me pannicy the pannicing is stressing me out witch is putting stress on my heart witch is making me feel the dizzyness im trying to work out why im feeling like this and its startin me to pannic again witch is setting the dizzyness off and so on im goin round in one big circle i belive this is just in my head and i can cure it myself but to be on the safe side im going to the doctors weed IS a very powerful drug and every1 knows that if your pannicing when you smoke it you have a bad reaction to it like i have this all started when i didnt feel right then i smoked a joint to try to get rid off it thn it hit me with a pannic attack does this sound right ??? AND i didnt feel right because i wasnt stoned but i didnt feel right coz i still felt stoned after stopping it doesnt make sense lol its very hard to explain THATS WHAT WEED DOES TO YOU

[katy]

could be your blood pressure mate, go see a doctor.

if you have panick attacks on and off the weed, it's not going to be the weed.

dealers often sell weed that has not been left long enough to mature, and this causes really high and panicky symptoms as well some times

if you are concerned about your mental health, do not use cannabis at all for the time being, it is never beneficial to underlying problems, unless it has been perscribed by a pro.

and try and improve the composition of your posts, it is difficult to read cramped text, especially when one is old and stone sighted

[savemoney]

hi katy i never noticed this dizzyness when i was smoking the weed and i no its not the weed making me pannic its me worrying about this dizzyness that making me have panic attacks i have stopped a few times for a day when i cudnt be bothered goin out at like 11 at night when i ran out so i gone till next morning fine not noticing feeling dizzy

[katy]

you are hyperventilating when this happens, sit down calm and breathe into a paper bag (any bag (crisp bag)), and just breathe in and out for a few moments.

your body is going into panic and taking in too much oxygen, when you breathe into the bag, you re-absorb some co2, and this will help you calm down.

this condition is common and usually passes after a few days or weeks .

[savemoney]

and the dizzness ?

[katy]

and the dizzness ?

hyperventilating or blood pressure/sugar,

i don't really know bud, i'm a carpenter ! lol

[savemoney]

ok thanks anyway

[thunderfeck]

if you would like to stop smoking weed, then first you should stop smoking fags with your weed (if you do) and see how that feels.
since i quit using fags in a joint i never get the feeling that i NEED a joint anymore. i dont think your problem is to do with you quitting smoking weed, but you should definately go see a doctor.

[savemoney]

yer i will its not the fact that i need a joint i can stop just like that i just think im doing it for my daughter so i can just stop its the dizzyness i cant handle i feel it then im thinkin bout it all day dizzyness is a horible feeling

[Goodbuddy]

Really sounds like either Anxiety or Blood pressure.
As you are going through a lifestyle change giving up weed and more importantly expecting another bairn, it is easy for this (anxiety/panic attack)to happen.
Get yourself down the GP's as you do sound like you are suffering a bit for it and he will be able to check your Blood Pressure straight away to eliminate/confirm that.
If anxiety then you CAN take pills for it or not depending on how you handle things. Sounds to me like you need some medication :)

I would probably get down the doctors anyway as you may well be suffering from something else altogether and the giving up toking etc,. is just a co-incidence fella :)

Peace

[illearth67]

if you would like to stop smoking weed, then first you should stop smoking fags with your weed (if you do) and see how that feels.
since i quit using fags in a joint i never get the feeling that i NEED a joint anymore. i dont think your problem is to do with you quitting smoking weed, but you should definately go see a doctor.

Yes that's a very good point.
I have stopped smoking everything several times during my life and if you smoke Tobacco with your joints then you are addicted to Nicotine and that's no joke.
I too struggled to give up until I realised the cravings I was getting were for Nicotine not Cannabis so the answer for me was to use Nicotine patches to get me through the first few weeks then I was able to give up easily.
It's a fact that Nicotine is much, much more addictive than any chemical found in Cannabis and the withdrawal symptoms are not to be taken lightly.
One of the symptoms of Nicotine withdrawal is severe anxiety possibly accompanied by panic attacks so it does fit what you say.
Wether or not this is the main cause of your symptoms I can't say for sure but it's something anybody trying to stop toking should be aware of.
In any event, you need to get round to your Doctor asap in case you are seriously ill.

[StonedAsFuck]

i have bad anxiety my head feels like its gonna pop and my blood feels like it bubblin all the time :smokie:

[Forest]

i think you defo need to see the doc! m8 and quickly you sound in a mess dude and stop the weed it aint doing you no good right now with so much going on in your head!
i know when you give up any drugs you brain can play dirty tricks on you to get you to carry on with the drugs but if it didnt stop like you when you smoked then it isnt that!
get so pro help as been said or you going to drive you self crazy!

[white widow]

Go to the doctors mate and tell him what you've told us, that's what I would definately do, no messing about.

[topyramid]

If you are that serious about stopping cannabis, do what i did and get sacked from your job, or ask them for a couple or few weeks off without pay, this is assuming you buy your cannabis, then you won't have enough money to buy cannabis, this is what i did and it cut me off for 6 months, now im only a moderate smoker.

[savemoney]

been to the doctors today they sed its anxiety the dizzyness is comin from this aswell coz of the breathing when im having an attack they put me on propanol 10mg 4 a day when required i told them i had stopped weed but been smoking it for a few years they asked why i was smoking and they sed the weed was probly maskin my anxiety now i have stopped its come back they were'nt sayin i have done any damage or anything just tryin to help me with this i knew it wasnt the weed anyway just thought i'd put it on here what is wrong with me thanks for the replys ppl

[Master Poet]

If you are that serious about stopping cannabis, do what i did and get sacked from your job, or ask them for a couple or few weeks off without pay, this is assuming you buy your cannabis, then you won't have enough money to buy cannabis, this is what i did and it cut me off for 6 months, now im only a moderate smoker.

Sorry but telling someone to get sacked from their job is fucked up especially in this climate, who knows if he will be able to get another job later. If hes that bad he needs to seek medical help from a professional.

[white widow]

Totally agree with the above.

[Up_in_smoke]

Just sounds like Nicotine withdrawal to me.
And a serious case of, you don't actually want to give up.

Something I found through smoking weed and having kids. Before you have the kids you are determined to give up for em, but when they get here you realise life isn't actually that different, and you still cluck for the weed. You feel guilty through the money it costs and so always have anxiety. I get the same when i'm buying.

I literally used to say I was giving up weed nearly every day for like a year or two, then one day, I thought, fuck it. I just don't want to, so I won't. Then looked into growing my own, now I have no plans at all to give up. If I smoke my whole life, then I'm fine with that, and my mrs finally understands, it helps that she smokes fags like they're going out of fashion. I have a lot less stress/anxiety/panic levels that I used to have when it was draining my money.

[relto]

just go buy some origano job done

[ladygarden]

been to the doctors today they sed its anxiety the dizzyness is comin from this aswell coz of the breathing when im having an attack they put me on propanol 10mg 4 a day when required i told them i had stopped weed but been smoking it for a few years they asked why i was smoking and they sed the weed was probly maskin my anxiety now i have stopped its come back they were'nt sayin i have done any damage or anything just tryin to help me with this i knew it wasnt the weed anyway just thought i'd put it on here what is wrong with me thanks for the replys ppl

Nice one fella, take it easy for a bit, try to work out what the underlying cause it is that you are worried about and try to resolve it. For a while there it sounded like you were gonna be sectioned. But good on you for a) being honest on here, and b) taking the advice to see a GP :) peace :p

[jok3r]

propanol or propranolol - them things can become addictive .your dr is a prick giving you such pills.you will have to come of them slow when giving up. round 2

[Forest]

good on you for going to the docs and i looked up propranolol its a beta blocker( the first ever one made that worked) and theres no mention of being addictive heres the link http://www.mentalhealth.com/drug/p30-i02.html#Head_4
but there maybe other places that say that but i cant find them can you find one jok3r ? i would be interested to read some more

it was the first ever Olympic doping case using this drug a koren shooter was stripped of two golds when caught using this drug its used for stage fright and the like
it seems it could work well for what you said you had
hope it helps dude
regards G-Man

[Forest]

here a even better link for you dude it has personal experiences if you look on on of the tabs on the page and it tells you more about the drug in a better way imo
http://www.patient.co.uk/medicine/Propranolol.htm

regards G-Man

[piggyback]

m8 u need sectiond in ur local cookoo nest fur a week
and ul be as good as new

[Goodbuddy]

m8 u need sectiond in ur local cookoo nest fur a week
and ul be as good as new

Must be speaking from experience :)

[piggyback]

ay lad dun me good
canny beat the liquid cosh a few times a day and wach ur feet do 360s

[savemoney]

after a few days on these propranolol and there 10 mg i havent had i proper panic attack like were i feel im goin to pass out or go mad but my stomach has butterflys alot i feel very down im not blaming it on the weed either but im defenitly depressed i feel tired all the time on edge and genrly ill its not the fags either i just dont want to be taking drugs for the rest of my life and i dont want to feel down every minute of the day i cant work out if these tabs are helpin or makin it worse not sure wot to do

[flatlander]

The more you think you have something wrong the more exaggerated the symptoms will be. I had medical problems years ago and the more I thought something was wrong the more symptoms I thought I had. I am not saying it is all in your head, just the more you worry about it the more you will notice them. Its easier said than done to ignore it but now your doc has you on medication you should be able to relax and things will get better. Its not easy going to the docs for this sort of thing, so pat yourself on the back for getting there and starting to get yourself better.

[flatlander]

The more you think you have something wrong the more exaggerated the symptoms will be. I had medical problems years ago and the more I thought something was wrong the more symptoms I thought I had. I am not saying it is all in your head, just the more you worry about it the more you will notice them. Its easier said than done to ignore it but now your doc has you on medication you should be able to relax and things will get better. Its not easy going to the docs for this sort of thing, so pat yourself on the back for getting there and starting to get yourself better.

[Goodbuddy]

Fuck me I need some propranolol, I've got double vision :)

[mrGfunk1980]

Try some Green tea..

[savemoney]

been back to doctors the otha day he has refered me to see a metal health team he sed the tablets i was on are not much they are more palcibo effect then anything i have got my pannic attack under some sort of control i am just going to sleep after i have had a pannic attack because its putting my body under alot of stress its making me very tired when i wake i have a few hours when im feeling ok then it starts again my gf has had enuff i think im not helping her y im feeling like this and she not happy with it all im stuck in a ditch ! im not eating much i feel dizzy not sure if it from not eatting much but im trying as much as i can i will let you know how im getting on in a few days as i dont feel like doing much so i will get on here when i can thanks for the replys

[The Lost Soul]

Fuckin shame mate, hope it all works out for you, keep in!!
Cheers

[pedro sanchez]

U need to replace ur weed addiction with something else.(exercise) don't take pills unless nothink else works.get your running shoes on and sweat it out bro

[fent11]

i don't really know bud, i'm a carpenter ! lol

so was Jesus - thats not a fucking excuse ; )

[Dam High]

been back to doctors the otha day he has refered me to see a metal health team he sed the tablets i was on are not much they are more palcibo effect then anything i have got my pannic attack under some sort of control i am just going to sleep after i have had a pannic attack because its putting my body under alot of stress its making me very tired when i wake i have a few hours when im feeling ok then it starts again my gf has had enuff i think im not helping her y im feeling like this and she not happy with it all im stuck in a ditch ! im not eating much i feel dizzy not sure if it from not eatting much but im trying as much as i can i will let you know how im getting on in a few days as i dont feel like doing much so i will get on here when i can thanks for the replys

Hey mate, sounds like your having a bit of a hard time. Ive dealt/dealing with what you describe for a while now. All i can say is a feel for ya and know how tough it can be.

Ive gotta say your doc sounds pritty clued up. Most blame the problem on cannabis but realistically, most times the problems were there, just being masked. Propanalol is a really good drug! basicially i lowers your heart rate, which calms you down. Hence why its used alot in sport doping. The only bad things id say (from experiance) is at high doses 60mg) it can cause breathing problems. But other than it's a really good short term treatment, but tolerance builds up quickley so dont rely on it for too long.

Being referred to a specialist is the best idea. They can really help if you allow them too. But at the end of the day theres no majic fix so it might take some hard work. If youve got kids im sure you'll find the strength buddy.

Have you though about growing? Street weed isnt the best, but you can grow specific strains to help your symptoms, which are better than any pill! and ive tried most of them lol.

[Dam High]

Oh aye, excersize is also really good. it gives a better feeling than propanalol ( about the same as diazpam), stops a lot of aches and helps sleep.

[Rockster]

m8 u need sectiond in ur local cookoo nest fur a week
and ul be as good as new

Don't take the piss out of mentally ill people please, not funny son.

[conman]

i'd say you need to get your mind of the weed and get your body more active next time you are feeling like that go for a jog around the block or somit it'll get your heart working for somit and take your mind of things for a bit

for the record im not a health freek and dont do the whole running thing unless im in a fucked up mood it realy help to clear the head

[eelman1102]

hello again im here to ask a few qeustions about my problems i will tell you y im stopping weed first .
i have one child at the moment and not long ago found out im goin to b a dad again its hard for me to keep smoking as it cost so much so i decided to stop so as of last week i stopped first day i smoked what i had left on my trey then the second day nothing third day nothing all mornin and after noon then i was eattin my tea when all ov a sudden i just felt sick and off my food i said to my gf i dont feel right then about an hour after me tryin to relax i felt i was getting worse so i thought it was the weed i felt horrible so i went out and got some weed came home and made a joint and put in a normal amount as i would and start to smoke it i felt very sick and neverse i just didnt feel right i didnt even get half way threw my joint and thats not like me so i tryed to play some computer games to try and forget what i was feeling like i was feeling sick like at the bottom of my stomach my heart didnt feel right like it was nerverse if you no what i mean so i decided to go to bed when i got in bed an lay down all these thoughts was goin round in my head and my heart was racing i was finding it hard to breath and swollow i tryed to stop thinking and relax then when i was just drifting of i was woken by myself coz i felt like i had stopped breathing now this has scared me like mad . now i have been feeling dizzy and sick and pannicy since i didnt eat much when i was stoned i would just have my tea no breakfast no dinner nothin till i had tea so i thought my dizzyness was because i wasnt eatting so i have been eatting alot more and im still feeling dizzy so i thought i will try a little joint c if it goes away but i cant seem to relax with the weed no more it seems as if the weed is making me worse the dizzyness is still there after a joint so i havent smoked no where near as much as i was lets say a 20 bag would have lasted me an my gf 2 an half day depending when i bout it so i was goin threw nearly 6g a week i bought this 20 bag a week today i still got bout 4 joints left i have been testing to c if these feeling was coming from the weed but it doesnt look that way the weed might be bringing the pannics out but thats because im thinkin its the weed . the dizzyness is when i stand and walk about and seems to get worse the longer i stand then the pannics come coz i dont no y im dizzy then that starts me off worrying i dont feel very dizzy when im sat down or watching telly or on my computers just when im thinking or walking about or doing both i have no problems stopping weed as i have done this twice before but have had pannics of stopping but have gone away after a few weeks never dizzyness i was a bit of a couch potato when i was on the weed always on games as the weed help me think wot i was doing i drank i few coffees a day none after tea tho has any1 got any thoughts on this thanks

What you described is what happens to me when i take canna-butter on my crumpets, not for the fainthearted is it. The bit that hits the nail on the head is where you said i woke myself up because i thought i had stopped breathing, and not being able to swollow, so many times i thought i was going to die, just manage to take a gulp at the last minute,scary stuff..........p.s i find it takes about 6 hours for the crumpets to kick in.

[relto]

sounds like anxiety to me...had loads of panic attacs...and no i never touched weed in them days....try a milder strain...that canna butter is a strong un....go see ya G.P then get o the root of the problem

[cyanpotdog]

m8 u need sectiond in ur local cookoo nest fur a week
and ul be as good as new

Your a dick.

[higherthanthesk]

Just to rule it out can you tell us how much your actually eating. Do you have a sedentary, un active lifestyle. Do you drink a lot of coffee or alcohol?

It may well be a subconscious thing that the idea that your having another child may be causing this. The mind likes to distract rather than face the problem.
Its like when people who have been loners or bullied in their childhood finally get adult and sleep with everyone around or take shit loads of other drugs, its all about distracting you from the real issue at hand

[Dlight]

i dont think its got anything to do with the weed my self, 2-3 days isnt really long enough to go without a joint to fell withdrawl effects, i regularly do this between dole days much to my discomfort.

personally mate id go an see a doctor, you sound like you have anemia

[higherthanthesk]

I forgot to add and what do you eat. as well as do you eat a lot of salt?

[TheCandyManCan]

Sorry to hear about the way you currently feel mate.

The dizziness is from you thinking that you cant breathe properly so you then breathe too much and this is the effect you end up with (dizziness).

Learn to control your breathing and going to see a psychiatrist would be a huge help.

I personally do think pills are the answer to problems and have never taken them myself but if they help you that is great. Pills would probably take about 4-8 weeks to kick in properly before starting to make the changes that are needed.

I hope you get your issues sorted and remember that your anxiety is all in your head.... You are fine

Peace