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Monty Bong
28-09-08, 08:35 PM
The table below is a rough guide to daylight hours per month in the UK.

Sep 1st to 13th approx 14 Hours daylight per day.
Oct 1st to 11th approx 11 Hours
Nov 1st to 10th approx 10 Hours
Dec 1st to 8th approx 8 Hours

This is why most strains start to flower in the UK around mid to late Sept, because our daylight hours have just dipped below 14 hours.

This table shows daylight hours in the new year.

Jan 1st to 8th approx 8 Hours daylight per day.
Feb 1st to 9th approx 9 Hours
Mar 1st to 12th approx 11Hours
Apr 1st to 13th approx 13 Hours

This is why it's pretty much pointless planting out most strains until late April, after we start to enjoy over 14 hours of light per day.

I sure you can all see the similarities in the two tables.

Next week I will be taking 4 cuttings, 2 off my Blue Cheese and 2 off my Lemon Stinkies. I will mist the cuts with water and then place them in the fridge until mid Dec. I have refridgerated cuttings before and successfully rooted them two weeks later. This time round they will in refridgerated "stasis" for about 9 weeks, but I am confident I will get them to root.

I intend to root them in a prop under a 125w blue enviro on a 20/4 light schedule. Once they have rooted they will remain vegging under the enviro until mid Jan.
At that time they will go under the enviro during the night and then be placed outside in an unheated greenhouse tent during the day. This will start hardening them off and they will still receive sufficient light to continue them vegging.

In February once they have sufficiently hardened off and become accustomed to the low temperature they will be left outdoors in the tent 24/7 to flower, this will give my plants 8 to 10 weeks flowering time before we reach late April when daylight hours go above 14 hours per day and vegative growth starts. I will be wrapping the pots and lower stems in cloth to avoid hard frosts.

I'm not expecting huge yields because the plants growth rate will be slower due to the lower temps we have in Feb and March than what we have in Oct and Nov, but I am expecting a worthwhile yield.

I will update this thread as I go.

In the meantime I'm open to comments, suggestions and discussion.

Thanks for listening

MB

dekay
28-09-08, 10:00 PM
Sounds like a plan mate and an interesting idea, it could just work due to our fucked up weather.

afriendinneed
29-09-08, 03:00 AM
I like your style! ... Go Monty go Monty go Monty :dj: :dance2:

allahu_akbar
29-09-08, 03:34 AM
yeah putting them in a greenhouse sounds good, hope they dont die from any frosts,
and when the days are getting longer your buds will just be getting more and more sun ,hopefully that duznt fuck u over and make em start ve-vegging when there like 6weeks in flower

sounds like u got it sorted tho, very nice plan monty boy

bubbs
29-09-08, 10:13 AM
ooh i will keep my eye on this MB nice one mate :D

Monty Bong
29-09-08, 02:46 PM
Thanks very much for all the replies everyone I appreciate your comments.

allahu

I'm hoping that if I can get them out 24/7 by second week of Feb this should give me enough time for them to finish before the daylight hours increase enough to start them re-vegging.

But this is just a first time experiment so who knows.

Cheers all

MB

leafman
30-09-08, 10:24 AM
Thats a reallt good idea monty I wont be pinching the idea and doin it myself i promise ha. It wil be good to see if it works mate and cant see why not as long as you harden them off slow but sure u, no the dance saggy pants lol. good luck pal and ill be watchin mate. :leaf:

syanlar
30-09-08, 04:49 PM
I love new experiments. Go Monty, I,m watching with keen interest.

Monty Bong
01-10-08, 07:18 PM
Thanks leafman and syanlar I appreciate your comments. :D

Update:

I have decided to take the cuts tonight, my young plants are coming on fine and I'm hoping to have everything harvested in my growroom by christmas. The doner plants will be flipped to 12/12 on saturday, this gives them just a couple of days to recover from the cuts being taken.

The doner plants, prior to the cuts being taken.

Lemon Stinky----------------------Blue Cheese---------------Lemon Stinky
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/lsbcls4.jpg

The cuts, 4 LS on the left, 2 BC on the right.
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/lsbcls1.jpg

All the cuts were misted with just plain tap water, then the inside of the bag was misted too. (airtight, ziplock, sandwich bag)

Cuts dropped inside the bag and sealed.
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/lsbcls2.jpg

The two bags placed in the fridge.
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/lsbcls3.jpg

If anyone is thinking of trying this, you must ensure the cuts do not become frozen...this will kill them.

They will now remain in the fridge until 1st or 2nd week of December. The longest I have done this for is about 2 weeks, I have a friend that got his to root after 5 weeks, so this length of time is an experiment but i'm confident it will work.

Next update December.

allahu_akbar
02-10-08, 02:47 AM
amazing monty boy,
Dr. Monty in a white lab coat, dealing with clones, storing em in fridges and shit!.
good work man, hope it all works out and cant wait till :xmas:december:xmas: for ya update

:DGOOD LUCK GOOD LUCK GOOD LUCK!!:D

Monty Bong
26-10-08, 11:46 AM
Thought I would do a little update. These cuts have been in my fridge for almost a month now and they look the same as they did the day I put them in there. Any other vegetable would be a soggy mess by now...not MJ. :D

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bag_bc.jpghttps://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bag_ls.jpg

I've not opened the bags because I think it's the fact they are airtight is what's keeping the plants alive.

Next update in about a month when the plants come out of stasis and go in the prop. ;)

popefull27
27-10-08, 01:38 AM
what is the best way to take clones without aeroponics or domes was just curious

lkdj2003
27-10-08, 04:42 PM
Awsome mate i have never seen this done before. :deviltoker:

Monty Bong
27-10-08, 05:17 PM
what is the best way to take clones without aeroponics or domes was just curious

I'm not sure what you mean by "the best way", I use neither aeroponics or domes, when I take cuttings I will usualy cut off a growing tip and about 4 or 5 inches of stem. I cut the stem again at a sharp angle with a scalpel, dip it in rooting hormone powder, then plant in to seedling compost in a small pot, then in a prop under the blue enviro 20/4, every couple of days the top of the pots get sprayed with water. I will do exactly the same with these.


Awsome mate i have never seen this done before. :deviltoker:


Thanks lkdj, I've rooted clones from the fridge before but only after 2 weeks of them being cut, so it will be interesting to see if it works after 8 weeks.
It would mean growers with limited space could veg a plant, take cuts a week before 12/12, flower the mother, then root and veg the clones that have been in the fridge, without out the need for seperate flowering / veg rooms. Or if a grower has a particularly good pheno but doesn't have the space to grow more out, take cuts, keep them in the fridge until more space becomes available in the growroom.

The spring flowering side of this grow is a real gamble, I've never seen it done but have been told its possible, the plants just have to be finished by mid April or they'll start to revege....thats if the cold, wind, rain, snow, frost, doesn't kill them first. :D

Thanks for looking in

PTB
27-10-08, 05:25 PM
I may have to try this. Nice work Monty :)

lkdj2003
27-10-08, 07:22 PM
Thanks lkdj, I've rooted clones from the fridge before but only after 2 weeks of them being cut, so it will be interesting to see if it works after 8 weeks.
It would mean growers with limited space could veg a plant, take cuts a week before 12/12, flower the mother, then root and veg the clones that have been in the fridge, without out the need for seperate flowering / veg rooms. Or if a grower has a particularly good pheno but doesn't have the space to grow more out, take cuts, keep them in the fridge until more space becomes available in the growroom.

The spring flowering side of this grow is a real gamble, I've never seen it done but have been told its possible, the plants just have to be finished by mid April or they'll start to revege....thats if the cold, wind, rain, snow, frost, doesn't kill them first. :D

Thanks for looking in

Wicked mate im really looking forward to this mate and i really hope it works out for you. :deviltoker:

This is what i love about growing, you learn something new everyday. :bump:

Monty Bong
11-11-08, 11:37 AM
Update.

Checked the cuttings yesterday and was concerned at what I found. The leaves on the Lemon Stinky's had gone very dark and looked like they were about to go rotten so I decided to start trying to root them earlier than planned.

4 Blue Cheese on the left, 2 Stinkies on the right. The Stinkies look in a really bad way but the Cheese don't look too bad.

They have been in the fridge for 41 days.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/exp1.jpg

I treat the cuts in exactly the same way as I do any other cuts, cut the bottom of the stem at an angle, gently scrape the outer tissue off of the last few mm, and then dip this bit in rooting hormone powder. I will also either remove or trim the lower fan leaves, leaving only the growing tip and maybe one or two fan leaves beneath it.

In this pic I have cut the stem at an angle, trimmed the tips off the lower fan leaves and i'm scraping the outer tissue off the bottom of the stem. (I believe this helps the cut to start new root growth)

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/exp2.jpg

The soil is Levingtons JI No1, once the cuts have been trimmed and the tips dipped in hormone, I make a small hole in the soil with a skewer, push the end of the cutting in and then gently squeeze the soil up around them stem to close up the hole. You don't want to push the tip through the soil as this would scrape the hormone powder off the sides off the stem.

All 6 plants potted. 4 Cheese at the front, Stinkies at the back. The Stinkies really don't look like they're going to make it.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/exp4.jpg

The soil is misted with plain tap water and so is the inside of the prop to help keep humidity high.

The prop in my makeshift veg box with my other vegging plants. The bigger light is a 125w Enviro, and the little one is a houshold cfl.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/exp7.jpg

The next couple of pics were taken this morning. The Stinkies have had it and been chucked in the composter, but the Cheese has amazed me. 41 days in the fridge and the day after being potted they are all already starting to change to a lighter green, indicating photosynthesis is taking place and two of them are actualy standing up and reaching for the light. :headbang:

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/exp5.jpg
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/exp6.jpg

I'm not really sure why the Stinkies died, I think it may be because the bag they were in was pushed up against the back plate of the fridge, if this caused the tissue to freeze at any time this would have damaged the plants cells and may have been why the cuts didn't make it. I'm guessing though.:confused:

bonsaiman
11-11-08, 12:24 PM
Nice work Monty, I've been looking forward to you getting these on the go. Shame about the stinkies. It could have been a couple of things, but there probably ain't much point speculating now. If it hadn't been for the stinkies, how long do you reckon they could have kept freash for? 41 days is pretty astounding as it is. Good luck with it m8. Bm

Monty Bong
11-11-08, 12:40 PM
Thanks Bm

I think I'm near to the maximum numbers of days this can be done for.
Maybe using more water in the bag, or finding an optimum temperature would increase the time, or having them in a fridge that isn't in daily use by a family of 7.
I'm sure they may have lasted longer if the fridge wasn't constantly being raided by the kids. :D

dekay
11-11-08, 11:24 PM
Absolutely brilliant mate, n i have just learned that my wreck cutting must have worked from what u said too (thought it had anyway like), always something interesting going on in your growing world and always expertly done.

Monty Bong
12-11-08, 11:35 AM
Thanks for the comments dekay, very much appreciated.

I going to put up daily pics of the cuttings until they show roots.

Taken this morning, the robustness of these plants never ceases to amaze me, 41 days in the fridge and this is day 2 of being potted.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/exp9.jpg

allahu_akbar
12-11-08, 12:57 PM
they looking very noice monty boy, will you repot when you can see roots at the bottom?

Monty Bong
12-11-08, 02:05 PM
Thanks allahu

Not the day I see roots appearing, I'll give it about another week after showing, then pot up to about 2.5ltr.

Monty Bong
17-12-08, 02:07 PM
Due to some personal problems I haven't been able to take care of my plants or keep regular updates. Of the original 6 cuttings all I have left is 2 of the Blue Cheese. These two were repotted about a week ago..(well over due). I had to cut off some of the lower fan leaves as they had died and for a while the new growth was appearing very twisted, as if the plant was re-vegging?

Now both seem to be growing normaly.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc111.jpg
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As I only have 2 plants left I think I will only try and flower 1 of them outdoors in sping and the other I will continue to grow indoors and take some more cuts. I've just finished curing the harvest I got off the doner plant and the smoke is sublime, so it's a pheno I want to keep for a while.

dekay
17-12-08, 02:19 PM
I would offer to look after ur plants for u mate while u get sorted, I am really missing the growing, but its a wee bit far away lol.

allahu_akbar
17-12-08, 02:24 PM
hey was that doner plant the one behind the 6 foot shed thing?? you woulda got a nice amount off that even if you halved it :D, hopfully one of them will do welel outdoors looking forward to it monty :D

Monty Bong
17-12-08, 02:25 PM
I would offer to look after ur plants for u mate while u get sorted, I am really missing the growing, but its a wee bit far away lol.

I know they would be in good hands mate but you're right, the smokey side of the moon is a tad too far, sounds like a nice place to get away from it all though.:D

Monty Bong
17-12-08, 02:41 PM
hey was that doner plant the one behind the 6 foot shed thing?? you woulda got a nice amount off that even if you halved it :D, hopfully one of them will do welel outdoors looking forward to it monty :D

Hi Allahu, no the plant behind mates shed was unknown, all I can say is, she looked very indica. Surprisingly the yeild off the beast wasn't as good as we hoped, although the buds looked big they weren't very dense and when dried shrunk down very small, it was still worthwhile growing but just did'nt deliver as much as we had hoped for.

This is the doner plant, she was chopped about a month ago. I think the first pic is about week 5 of flower and the 2nd very close to harvest time.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc7.jpg
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc9.jpg

allahu_akbar
17-12-08, 03:23 PM
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc9.jpg

loving this pic! :D keep it up monty!!!! :)

fat freddy
17-12-08, 11:05 PM
i hope you pull this off monty

re cuts in fridge - did you disable the fridge light? or keep the cuts in light proof bags?

the stinkies and their frozen tissue - when plant tissue freze's it generaly turns black as it dies (just as an indicator for future reference) much the same way as human tissue does when it has severe frostbite. their demise may just have been down to genetics.

once your plant is hardened off and planted out theres no harm in wrapping it in a white horticultural flece if theres any sign of frost, it lets light through but will keep the fost at bay for a while

best o luck

Monty Bong
18-12-08, 11:28 AM
Cheers ff

The light in the fridge only comes on when the door is open and this didn't seem to effect the cuts.

Thanks for the advice on the fleece.

MB

bubbs
18-12-08, 11:45 AM
Hey MB wow, i didnt know you could do that with cuts :D fab hehe im sorry you lost your LS mate, im sure the blue cheese will grow well for you, and i do hope you manage to sort out your probs dude, nice to see you about :D

Monty Bong
18-12-08, 11:58 AM
Thanks very much bubbs, I wasn't awair of the technique until a few months ago either but it has worked for me twice now, the first time they were in the fridge for 2 weeks and this time round 41 days, although I think 41 days is approaching the maximum number it can be done for.

Thanks for looking in. :D

Monty Bong
23-12-08, 08:23 PM
Update:

Both are doing fine and dandy,....Cuttings taken then put in the fridge for 41 days, this was taken today, 41 days after being taken out of the fridge and then rooted in Levingtons John Innes No1.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc16.jpg

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc15.jpg

fat freddy
23-12-08, 09:33 PM
Nice n healthy looking ladies they are too

Monty Bong
02-01-09, 11:30 AM
Due to a change in circumstances I will not be able to continue with the flowering outdoors in spring side of this experiment.

However I think I have proved that a clone can be taken, refridgerated while the doner plant is flowered, then after harvest the clone can be taken out of the fridge, rooted and then grown in the normal way. Thus eliminating the need for a seperate veg and flower area for growers with limited space.

So now I have two clones taken at the same time from the same plant, refridgerated for over 40 days, rooted and then grown in the exact same soil and conditions. What I plan to do now is when the time comes to put them in their final pots, 1 will go in to John Innes 2 and the other in to JI3, I'm just curious to see the difference in yeild, if any.

Update.

Repotted a few days ago in to a mixture of JI1, JI2 and perlite. I'm guessing but I think they are about 2lt pots.


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weed heed
04-01-09, 05:13 PM
still lookin great monty i think the point is proved any way i couldne see those babies not takin to the outside as they are very healthy lookin.and also the fridge cuttin exercise is proved too.good luck wi flowerin the plants pal.weed heed

dekay
04-01-09, 09:53 PM
Going to have to try the fridge thing with some cuts its such a handy thing to be able to do n cops never checked me fridge either although they probably would have thought they were salad anyways.

Monty Bong
09-01-09, 11:54 PM
More pics, new camera.

The both have a slight spider mite problem and a touch of powdery mildew, but on the whole, considering what they've been through, I think they're doing okay.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc21.jpghttps://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc20.jpg

DeathKnight
10-01-09, 12:32 AM
Nice grow m8 looking good :)

Bitterfly
10-01-09, 02:34 PM
i dont know how you do it monty but your plants always look immpecable,


awesome work mate :D

Tetra
11-01-09, 11:35 AM
Incredible to be able to fridge clones! Never thought that was possible, thought the cells would burst when freezed!

fat freddy
11-01-09, 02:54 PM
Incredible to be able to fridge clones! Never thought that was possible, thought the cells would burst when freezed!

thats exactly why they go in the refrigerator at approx 2 deg C as opposed to a frezer at -1 deg C lol

fresh sticky bud
11-01-09, 05:03 PM
Looking nice bud!
What type of bag's do you use to store them in the fridge?
I think this method will save everyone a bit of time and space.
Are those silver reflective car sun screen's you are using there?

Monty Bong
11-01-09, 07:16 PM
thats exactly why they go in the refrigerator at approx 2 deg C as opposed to a frezer at -1 deg C lol

Spot on ff, if they freeze they will die.



Looking nice bud!
What type of bag's do you use to store them in the fridge?
I think this method will save everyone a bit of time and space.
Are those silver reflective car sun screen's you are using there?


Thanks mate,

The bags I use are freezer bags, the type with the zip top, they give an airtight seal which is essential.
Yes they are car sun screens, they were lying around and I couldn't be bothered painting, they seem to do the job quite well. :D

Tetra
11-01-09, 07:32 PM
Ahh, makes sence :D Thanx

Monty Bong
11-01-09, 09:43 PM
i dont know how you do it monty but your plants always look immpecable,


awesome work mate :D


Sorry Bitterfly, I missed this post,

thanks for stopping by and the kind comments.:bigjoint:

HardcoreHorticulture
12-01-09, 11:26 AM
your work is pioneering, a friend of mine just took a shit load of clones and would have loved to have seen this technique before hand.............a lot has been learnt

greendog
12-01-09, 07:14 PM
Hi monty, awsesome experiment mate & and they are looking lush. Im gonna try this method with my next grow. Good luck with the mite problem, are they hard to get rid of?

Monty Bong
12-01-09, 07:35 PM
your work is pioneering, a friend of mine just took a shit load of clones and would have loved to have seen this technique before hand.............a lot has been learnt

Thanks very much HH, just to be clear though, this is a technique that I learnt off another grower and it has been diaried before on other forums so I'm hardly the pioneer. :)


Hi monty, awsesome experiment mate & and they are looking lush. Im gonna try this method with my next grow. Good luck with the mite problem, are they hard to get rid of?

Cheers greendog.

Unless you catch them early spider mite can be like the Borg, a fcking nightmare to get rid of, to be honest I'm not that worried about the mite, I only found a few and things don't seem to be getting any worse. The powdery mildew is a worry though, not something I have dealt with before.

Monty Bong
12-01-09, 11:14 PM
I know it's only been 3 days but i'm getting the hang of the new camera now.:)

Repotted in to about 5 or 6lt pots. I'm still out of JI2 so these two are now in a mixture of JI1, JI3 and Perlite, about 33% of each.

Most of the growing tips have been cut off as I need to keep these plants short and bushy while they veg as I haven't got much height to play with, and the flower room is full for at least another 4 weeks.

Few pics of where the growing tips have been cut off and the two new growing tips below taking it's place.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc22b.jpghttps://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc23b.jpghttps://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc24b.jpg
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc25b.jpg

Monty Bong
18-01-09, 09:17 PM
As I won't be trying to flower these outside now I asked for the name of the thread to be changed, cos it didn't really make sense.

Couple more pics of happy plants. :)https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc26a.jpghttps://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc27a.jpg

They will be potted up to 15lt pots next weekend, vegged for another week, maybe two. I'm giving these a long veg and large pots as my target is 4oz per plant.

Rizzah
18-01-09, 09:25 PM
Really healthy lookin plants there Montybong,

Picked up some blue cheese tonight its awesome stuff :D

greendog
18-01-09, 09:35 PM
looking good monty, their colour is so vibrant - excellent work mate look forward to seeing them in flower!

:smokie:

Monty Bong
18-01-09, 09:45 PM
Really healthy lookin plants there Montybong,

Picked up some blue cheese tonight its awesome stuff :D

Thanks Rizzah, totally agree, I finished smoking the mother of these two about 3 weeks ago and she was supurb, more cuts off these two will be taken before they are flipped, she's definatly a keeper. ;)


looking good monty, their colour is so vibrant - excellent work mate look forward to seeing them in flower!

:smokie:

Cheers greendog, thanks for looking in.

wozy
18-01-09, 10:30 PM
putting cuttings on ice, that is inspired, got a little stella fridge i was gunna chuck, think i may have just found a use for it

Monty Bong
27-01-09, 06:45 PM
putting cuttings on ice, that is inspired, got a little stella fridge i was gunna chuck, think i may have just found a use for it

Not on ice Wozy, if they freeze they'll die. A little Stella fridge should serve the purpose well. :)

As I have a powdery mildew problem in the flower room, I have to grow all those plants out, sterilise the room, only then can I safely start flowering the two Blue Cheeses.

Both plants were given a re-pot today, they are now in about 20lt pots, full of John Innes 3 and about 25% Perlite. They will remain vegging under the blue 125w enviro for about another 3 weeks, by that time their roots should have filled out the pots nicely and they'll be itching to flower. :D If the plants start showing signs of lack of light, which I am expecting as they are already quite big and a 125w isn't going to kick out enough lumens for both, the plan is to hang a couple of houshold CFL's off the reflector, every little helps. ;)

Target weight for these two is 4 oz per plant, should see me and the missus through the summer very nicely.

Oh and nearly forgot, the Cheese were also infected with the powdery mildew, as the plants were in veg I was able to spray them with a product called Multirose, it cost £3 from Focus and has cleared up the problem completely, problem is it can be only used during veg as it is systemic, which basically means it penertrates the leaves for up to 6 weeks, so not something to be used on flowering plants.

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Thanks for looking.

MB

Monty Bong
04-02-09, 12:43 AM
3 more weeks of veg to go , they're begging to be flowered. :D

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bcf2.jpg

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THOMAS CHONG
04-02-09, 10:28 AM
looking good monty as usual, ther going to be monsters m8,
TOMBONG.

PTB
04-02-09, 01:42 PM
They look mighty healthy monty :D

Monty Bong
06-02-09, 03:07 PM
looking good monty as usual, ther going to be monsters m8,
TOMBONG.

I hope so Tom, I've been nursing these girls for some time now, hope they repay me in the end. :D


They look mighty healthy monty :D

Cheers PTB, thanks for looking in.



Had great fun tying my ladies down today, they loved it. ;)

So now I have a nice even canopy, I can get the plants right up underneath the lamp. Yes that is foil in the backround, it's the only reflective material I had to hand and because the lamp is only 125w, I don't think it's going to cause any burning to the leaves. They have about 2 1/2 weeks before they go in the flower room under the HPS. (And surrounded with Mylar...not foil)

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bcf5.jpg

Bitterfly
06-02-09, 03:13 PM
mmm i love a bit of s&m mate :evil:

great stuff, lovely hues of green as always :D

Monty Bong
07-02-09, 10:05 PM
Couple more pics, just to keep things up to date.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge.jpg

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge1.jpg

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge2.jpg

cheech&chong
07-02-09, 10:13 PM
looking gorgeous there monty, good job mate. look forward 2 seeing the results?

Monty Bong
08-02-09, 12:16 PM
Thanks cheech, same ere mate. I'm looking forward to a big harvest and a very cheesy summer.

Thanks for looking in.

Dredlock
08-02-09, 12:28 PM
lookin lush matey look forward to seeing them in bud :)

Monty Bong
14-02-09, 12:46 PM
Thanks Dred. :)

About 1 more week to go before 12/12.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge4.jpg

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge6.jpg

Off to Tesco's to get some sandwich bags, cuts are going to be taken today, put in the fridge for a few weeks, until I have space to root them.

Going to try some outdoor Blue Cheese this year. :bigjoint:

greendog
14-02-09, 02:41 PM
they look so healthy, nice one. Nice bit of bondage there mate!

Monty Bong
19-02-09, 04:13 PM
Thanks greendog, I have to admit I do enjoy tying them down and making them beg to be flowered. :D

Update.

Everything in the flower room has been harvested, the room has been totally washed down with bleach and then misted with a fungicidal spray, in an effort to illiminate the powdery mildew problem.

The Blue Cheese have been transfered to the (now hopefully clean of mildew spores) flower room. I'm going to give them about another 5 days of 18/6 veg under 400w HPS + 125 Blue Enviro. When they go 12/12 I'll remove the enviro.

Plants swap places twice a day so they both benefit from the mixed spectrum.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge8.jpg

Lights On

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge7.jpg

Monty Bong
22-02-09, 06:35 PM
Enviro is out, they go 12/12 tomorrow. :D


https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge9a.jpg

Monty Bong
24-02-09, 12:44 PM
I'm going to keep plugging away with the updates, regardless. :D

As both these plants look quite similar I thought it would be best to name them. They're already well on the way to becoming are a pair of fat slags so I decided on Sharon and Tracey, or Shaz n Traz for short.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge11.jpghttps://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge15.jpg

Imo this pheno is a definate keeper so i've decided to use the fridge technique again, 5 cuttings were taken off each plant today. They were misted with water, placed in ziplock freezer bags and put in the fridge. In the next couple of weeks I plan to build a new vegging area, when I'm done the cuttings will be rooted and vegged. The plan for some of the cuts is to see how well Blue Cheese does outdoors this year. ;)

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge13.jpg
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge16.jpg

THOMAS CHONG
24-02-09, 12:48 PM
Good Work M8 Keep It Up

bigballs
24-02-09, 12:54 PM
Looking Good Monty
They are indeed fat slags, very healthy, fit, fat slags tho :D
Hope you have got the powdery mildew sorted and get no reoccurance, I'm still fighting the good fight against the mites, they are under control just not managed to totally irradicate them

Monty Bong
24-02-09, 01:13 PM
Thanks for looking in guys.

BB, I know of a grower that sorted his mite infestation using something called a 'pest bomb', it's like a smoke bomb that fumagates the area and kills absolutley everything within it. He took out his filter out, turned his extraction off, let the pest bomb off and shut the door for 12 hours, he then turned his extraction back on, (without the filter) and let it run for another day. It completely sorted his mite problem. ;) The only downside is you have to stop growing completly, fumagate veg and flower area, then start again from scratch.

paul333
24-02-09, 01:26 PM
Alright monty. How long will those cuttings keep for?

Monty Bong
24-02-09, 01:29 PM
Hi Paul

The longest I've done it is 40 days, although only 2 cuttings survived out of the 4 that I took.

paul333
24-02-09, 01:51 PM
Cheers for that mate. Sounds interesting.

Monty Bong
01-03-09, 09:55 PM
Little update on the fatties, filling the room up nicely. :D

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge17a.jpg

bubbs
01-03-09, 10:20 PM
blooming lovely :D

Monty Bong
02-03-09, 05:09 PM
Ta very much bubbs :D


Update.

Both plants have been supercropped, I want the canopy as even as possible so that I can keep the HPS nice and close and keep the stretch during the first 2 weeks of flower controlled.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/sc16.jpg

I got a bit overzealous with one of the stems and snapped it, it was hanging on by just a few strands.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/sc21.jpg

So I employed my state of the art stem rebuilding compound.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/sc31.jpg

Fixed. :D

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/sc41.jpg

stoneroz
02-03-09, 05:37 PM
Lookin nice as always Monty, they're lookin very healthy, good repair job mate!!.

weed heed
02-03-09, 06:44 PM
agreed stoneroz georgous plants as always monty,i love to grow plants normally but am always very impressed wi your growin techniques monty great growin again pal.weed heed

syanlar
02-03-09, 06:55 PM
I wish I had the patience and the room to veg for a month or so like you monty. Next time, next time, next time. Nice growing mate.

Monty Bong
04-03-09, 12:22 AM
Lookin nice as always Monty, they're lookin very healthy, good repair job mate!!.

Thanks stoneroz, it always amazes me how fast mj repairs itself during veg.


agreed stoneroz georgous plants as always monty,i love to grow plants normally but am always very impressed wi your growin techniques monty great growin again pal.weed heed

Thanks for looking in weed heed. :D I usualy like to grow my plants 'eu nateral' but because these are cuts off my last BC grow, I know the plant likes to grow quite stretchy. I'm hoping by keeping them tied down i'll get decent light penetration, keep the stretch to a minimum and keep an even canopy of buds in full light later on in flowering.


I wish I had the patience and the room to veg for a month or so like you monty. Next time, next time, next time. Nice growing mate.

The trick is to have flowering and vegging plants all at different stages of growth. If your harvesting a couple of plants every 2 months, after a couple of harvests you have enough smoke to give your next grow an extra months veg. Increasing your harvest rate and reducing the number of plants you grow. ;)

Monty Bong
04-03-09, 12:09 PM
Few more pics. I've had to re-name Tracey to Stacey.....don't ask. :blush:

The missus was out this morning so I managed to get both girls on the bed for a photo shoot.

Lovely bud sites on both starting to form. :D
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge18.jpg

Stacey
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge20.jpg

Sharon
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge19a.jpg

From above...

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge21a.jpg

dekay
05-03-09, 09:50 PM
Stunning monty and no doubt prize winning at some point but then yours always are.:headbang:

Monty Bong
08-03-09, 09:55 PM
Stunning monty and no doubt prize winning at some point but then yours always are.:headbang:

Cheers mate, hope it won't be long before we see a dekay diary. :D Let us know when your ready to start ;)


Update. Day 13 12/12

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge25.jpg


https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge23a.jpg

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge22a.jpg

Bitterfly
09-03-09, 01:12 AM
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge21a.jpg

thats almost hypnotic mate :evil:


good growing as per usual :D

Mr Spliffy
09-03-09, 01:18 AM
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge21a.jpg[/QUOTE]

looks kinda like 1 of them magic eye pics

Crackin plants monty m8 well done

Check my diary in the link below let me know what u think

Cheers :p

Monty Bong
09-03-09, 11:18 PM
Thanks for stopping by chaps.

Some more pics of the slappers....

Stacey...

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager1_stacey_a.jpg

A couple of Staceys bud sites, i think given the right treatment they should firm up nicely...

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager4_twins_a.jpg

Sharon....

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager_a.jpg

Sharons bushy undercarraige....

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager2_undercarraige_a.jpg

Both girls were given their first flower feed today, Focus tomato food... treat em mean, keep um keen. https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/spanked.gif :D

Oh yeh, the tip I snapped and repaired with sellotape when I was supercropping....

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge26.jpg


:stoned-smilie:

Monty Bong
12-03-09, 04:02 PM
and some more....

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge28.jpghttps://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge29.jpghttps://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge30.jpg

Opiate
12-03-09, 04:22 PM
damn dude, so many colas awesome job. sharon and stacy will soon have some major junk in their mutliple trunks...

Monty Bong
12-03-09, 05:16 PM
damn dude, so many colas awesome job. sharon and stacy will soon have some major junk in their mutliple trunks...


Thanks Opiate, the multiple colas are due to all the growing tips being topped at a young age then both plants being allowed a good time to recover before being tied down.

thanks for looking in.

Rizzah
12-03-09, 06:39 PM
All the growing tips?

You top them all?

I just tried topping on my power skunk and they loved it, so you top more than the main cola then yeah?

Monty Bong
12-03-09, 06:54 PM
The majority of them Rizzah, (pics are on page 3 of this diary) the only ones I didn't cut off were the lower ones that were going to be taken as cuts later on. Once the plants had recovered from cropping they were LST'd forcing what would have been the smaller bud sites under the canopy to grow upwards and form in to colas.

Rizzah
12-03-09, 07:07 PM
Monty you are sex..

Pray you never meet me cause you'll be walking like John Wayne..

Awwoogga!

Na, seriously tho, thats mega, I'll be doing that to my blue cheese :)

Mr Spliffy
12-03-09, 07:14 PM
I done it to 1 of my churchs ;) just to try it lol

syanlar
13-03-09, 03:04 PM
The majority of them Rizzah, (pics are on page 3 of this diary) the only ones I didn't cut off were the lower ones that were going to be taken as cuts later on. Once the plants had recovered from cropping they were LST'd forcing what would have been the smaller bud sites under the canopy to grow upwards and form in to colas.

Nice work fella, superb results. That's the way to maximise yield/light to number of plants. Go Monty...

dekay
13-03-09, 09:43 PM
Monty you are sex..
And he knows it, hes like some bad ass pimp showing us his bitches.
Oh n I'll have em both for the night any price.:boobs:

Tay
14-03-09, 12:30 PM
And he knows it, hes like some bad ass pimp showing us his bitches.
Oh n I'll have em both for the night any price.:boobs:

that made me :laugh:

cheech&chong
14-03-09, 07:30 PM
top job monty them ladies are looking gorgeous mate!

Monty Bong
16-03-09, 10:24 PM
Thanks for all the comments, appreciated. :D

Dekay are sure you you would want both for a night ?, they're becoming bigger, fatter and smellier by the day. ;)

Still managing to keep their looks though, here's Stacey enjoying some morning sun.....:)

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge40.jpg

Food is still Focus tomato food. :yeah mate:

Monty Bong
18-03-09, 01:01 PM
Update.

The new veg room has been built so the cuts that I took 3 weeks ago and put in the fridge (page 4 of this diary) can now be rooted. I'm only going to try and root 5 of the 10 cuts I took, the remaining 5 will be left in the fridge for a couple more weeks.

John Innes No1, Perlite, washed out pots, scalpel, rooting powder, prop and cuts.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge41.jpg

The cuts are trimmed of the larger fan leaves and the bottom of the stem is cut at an angle. I then gently scrape off a very thin layer of plant tissue, off the last half inch of stem. I believe this encourages the clone to start producing roots. I tried to show it in this pick but it hasn't come out that well.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge43.jpg

The stem is the dipped in rooting powder, the access tapped off.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge45.jpg

A small hole made in the soil with a pencil, the clone is planted being carefull not to wipe the hormone powder off the stem as you push it in. The soil is then pressed gently up against the stem.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge46.jpg

Inside of the prop is misted with tap water to keep humidity up for the first few days and the prop is put in the veg room under blue enviro.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge47.jpg

The mums....

Sharon....https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge48.jpg

Stacey....https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge49.jpg

Monty Bong
20-03-09, 10:26 AM
Clones been in 2 days, all good so far.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge50.jpg

New additions to the veg room.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge51.jpg


Martian Mean Green :)

Cindy 99 :D

Black Domina :satan:

The_Hunter
20-03-09, 10:43 AM
nice one, them roots are looking good!

Monty Bong
20-03-09, 07:16 PM
Thanks Hunter, the roots do look healthy, not my work though. ;) I'm looking forward to the Black Domina most of all, pure indica, I'm told it knocks you on your arse. :dance2:

Some more pics of Sharon and Stacey...

Shaz

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge52.jpg

Stace

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge55.jpg

The left hand side of Sharons rack.....

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge54.jpg

The two of them on the bedroom floor, proper filth.....:jawdrop:

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge56.jpg

paul333
20-03-09, 08:28 PM
WOW....they look superb.

dekay
20-03-09, 08:48 PM
Those fat slags really have big bushes id like to get lost in.
Loving the variety of plants u grow mate, u fucking love it n so do I.

bubbs
20-03-09, 09:13 PM
excellent grow again Monty they are looking :drool: lovely :D well done,
love the new editions Cindy99 ooooh well lush :)

Monty Bong
20-03-09, 11:09 PM
WOW....they look superb.

Ta very much Paul, thanks for looking in. :)


Those fat slags really have big bushes id like to get lost in.

Almost Zen like in it's simplicity isn't it.....? :D

Your comments are always very welcome mate. :greet:


excellent grow again Monty they are looking :drool: lovely :D well done,
love the new editions Cindy99 ooooh well lush :)

Thank you Bubbs, to be honest the MMG and the C99 belong to the missus, she's pestered me long enough to do a sat grow, I finally gave in...but only if I was allowed to grow the Black Domina. :stoned-smilie:

Monty Bong
24-03-09, 03:08 PM
Earlier in this diary I snapped a growing tip when supercropping. It was just hanging on by a few strands so I repaired it with sellotape.

Here's the pic I originally put up of the snapped tip.
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/sc21.jpg

This is how the damaged stem is getting on today (22 days later)...:D

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge57.jpg

Just goes to show how hardy MJ is, it'll take a lot of abuse and still bounce back.

Another pic, just cos I like it. :)

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge58.jpg

Monty Bong
26-03-09, 03:54 PM
Clones are coming on a treat, no roots showing out of the bottom yet but they will be in the next few days ;)

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge63.jpg


More bud of the mums....

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge61.jpg
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge62.jpg

The plants are starting to get quite a lot of yellowing beneath the canopy and on the larger fan leaves, which in my opinion is a good thing. The plant is diverting stored nitrogen from these leaves to feed upper bud development.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge60.jpg
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge59.jpg

The LST still keeping an even canopy, I can get the light right down and get a close even spread of light across both plants....the buds love it. :)

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge64.jpg

paul333
26-03-09, 03:55 PM
Superb mate. How long have they been on 12/12?

Monty Bong
26-03-09, 03:58 PM
Alright Paul,

they were flipped 23 Feb thats erm....31 days I think, another 30'ish to go. :bigjoint:

paul333
26-03-09, 03:59 PM
Alright Paul,

they were flipped 23 Feb thats erm....31 days I think, another 30'ish to go. :bigjoint:


You're the same as me then mate....mine have done 28 days today but I have to admit yours look better than mine......very impressive Monty, good effort.

Monty Bong
26-03-09, 04:03 PM
You're the same as me then mate....mine have done 28 days today but I have to admit yours look better than mine......very impressive Monty, good effort.


Thanks a lot. :)

buddin nutt
26-03-09, 04:19 PM
very very nice pair of ladies hope mine come on that sexy

THOMAS CHONG
27-03-09, 10:05 AM
coming along nicely m8

Monty Bong
28-03-09, 02:59 PM
Thanks Tom & bn. :D

Cuts in the fridge for 3 weeks, taken out 10 days ago and today we have roots coming out the bottom of the pot. :bigjoint:

This plant we all grow is incredable.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge65.jpg

bigbudbenj
28-03-09, 04:25 PM
Looking good mate! My blue cheese were flipped 12/12 5 days after yours on 28/02 I only topped mine once around week 3 and yours have deffo got more bud site's than mine. Will have to do more topping i think next time. Did you LST these plants first then top them? Going to get a few months worth of weed of these babies, looking very healthy mate will keep an eye on this diary.

ImALittleGreenMan
28-03-09, 04:34 PM
im speechless........................WOW!!!
peace

Monty Bong
30-03-09, 09:49 PM
Looking good mate! My blue cheese were flipped 12/12 5 days after yours on 28/02 I only topped mine once around week 3 and yours have deffo got more bud site's than mine. Will have to do more topping i think next time. Did you LST these plants first then top them? Going to get a few months worth of weed of these babies, looking very healthy mate will keep an eye on this diary.

Thanks mate, I top, let them recover, then LST. ;)


im speechless........................WOW!!!
peace

Ta very much. :D

Quite a bit of yellowing going on and signs their lacking a bit in Mg, I gave them a dose of Epsoms today, but other than that I'm too stoned to give a f*ck:bigjoint:

Porn time :)

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager20.jpg

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager21.jpg

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager23.jpg

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager22.jpg

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager24.jpg

dekay
30-03-09, 09:55 PM
You diaries always put a smile on me face monty old chap. I'm always looking at yours feel like i should show u mine though.

buddin nutt
31-03-09, 03:33 AM
41 days in fridge to these lovely lucious ladies ...change your name to clone god .. it fits you monty..keep it up m8..you grow and show and i learn..thanks

Monty Bong
31-03-09, 12:05 PM
Thanks for the comments guys. :)

4 out of the 5 new clones are showing roots so I thought I would repot them all in to JI2.
I dropped the first one I picked up :banghead: luckily it was the one that hasn't yet started rooting, so I took the opportunity to take a pic of the nodule that forms at the base of the stem just before a clone starts rooting.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge66.jpg

I put it back in the soil and fingers crossed I expect it to start growing roots in the next couple of days.

All the others are showing nice white, healthy roots so they all were repoted from small seedling/cutting pots up to 1Lt.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge67.jpg
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge68.jpg

(I've kept the little one I dropped in the same pot and same soil. I didn't want to piss it off any more than I already have done :blush:)

Rizzah
31-03-09, 12:40 PM
Damn thats normal??

I thought mine were doing nothing and ripped em up in rage!

I had some Haiwaian Snow about 2 weeks, I just got impatient and paranoid about the extra plants!

Ok, so if it forms a fat nodule thing its going too root?

They all had that lol!

Anyway,

Monty your plants look awesome, do you know when it is that they get the blue hue in the colour?

I've heard only after a cure??

Anyway, I've topped mine multiple times now and they're growing out colas like no tomorrow!

Monty FTW!

Monty Bong
31-03-09, 01:13 PM
Thanks Rizzah,

Yes the fat nodule is where the roots grow from, there is a word for it but I can't think of it.

The blue hue I think is mainly down to phenotype, although the pheno I have has a slight blue tinge to the fan leaves in veg. I suppose the buds off her have a slight blueishness to them when compaired to other strains but not a lot. The thing I like about Blue Cheese is the taste, it's the most moreish weed I've ever grown/smoked, can't get enough of it. :bigjoint:

Thanks for looking in,.... btw what does FTW mean? if it's not nice don't tell me. :D

Rizzah
31-03-09, 01:36 PM
For the Win

http://www.g4rewind.com/images/ftw.jpg

http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/blogchatinstantmessaging/f/whatisFTW.htm

Monty Bong
31-03-09, 02:14 PM
Oh I see, ta, that link will come in handy too, thanks. :)

greendog
31-03-09, 08:35 PM
Awesome mate, absolutely beautiful looking plants, those buds look lovely. They must smell amazing. Nice one. :drool:

Tay
31-03-09, 09:58 PM
The thing I like about Blue Cheese is the taste, it's the most moreish weed I've ever grown/smoked, can't get enough of it. :bigjoint:

hear hear:bong:

Rizzah
03-04-09, 03:19 PM
Hey Monty,

Apologies for Hi Jacking your thread,

But I just thought I'd let you know that after giving my clones another 5 days after those nodules formed, I now have rooted plants :)

ImALittleGreenMan
03-04-09, 03:29 PM
them buds are delightful to look at monty. Very well done!
peace

Grim
05-04-09, 12:18 PM
just read through the diary and the girls look great, I'm impressed with the success of the refrigerated cuttings. Good luck for the rest of the grow

buddin nutt
06-04-09, 02:14 PM
watching these grow outta da frig gives even me hope i can become a more successful cloner Thanks monty,,real beauties

Monty Bong
06-04-09, 02:56 PM
Thanks for the comments guys, Rizzah, glad they rooted for you.


Grim, hope some growers can put the technique to good use. It does mean that single room growers can keep the phenotypes they want without having to keep a mother in a seperate room, it also means that growers can take clones before they know the sex, when the sex is identified, ditch the clones taken from the males and root only the ones taken from the females. ;)

Some porn....

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager31.jpg
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager30.jpg
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager29a.jpg
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager25.jpg

ImALittleGreenMan
06-04-09, 08:01 PM
droooooooool, "wipes away the saliva". Very nice m8, howlong is left now? about a week or less?
peace

Monty Bong
06-04-09, 08:12 PM
droooooooool, "wipes away the saliva". Very nice m8, howlong is left now? about a week or less?
peace


They're on day 42, last time I grew this pheno i gave her 65 days and she was just about right, however birthday bash coming up in a couple of weeks so a few buds may be taken a bit early.

Thanks for looking in lgm. :)

dekay
06-04-09, 10:13 PM
U know mate cant remember who it was but someone told me off saying i should know better than taking buds early, hmmm.................nope cant remember. Oh plants looking spot on btw good job as always.:p

Monty Bong
06-04-09, 10:20 PM
:o lol Needs must mate ;) Its me birthday ffs :p

spliffing
06-04-09, 10:31 PM
Wow, just read through and thoroughly amazed what MJ can go through. The plants look amazing and I'm getting ideas about what I'm going to do next - hmmmm Blue Cheese :0)

Bitterfly
06-04-09, 10:44 PM
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager30.jpg


weeey i was looking for me sugar for me brew man :D


yo is it actually ya Bday or did a miss something bro, im really off the map so you have to forgive us :) well if it is hope yav had a sweet un!!

Tay
06-04-09, 10:56 PM
weeey i was looking for me sugar for me brew man :D



:laugh: tis a sweet pic;)

Monty Bong
06-04-09, 11:08 PM
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager30.jpg


weeey i was looking for me sugar for me brew man :D


yo is it actually ya Bday or did a miss something bro, im really off the map so you have to forgive us :) well if it is hope yav had a sweet un!!

Bitts, you're a proper stoner mate, it's my birthday in a couple of weeks lol

But ty, appreciated. :D


:laugh: tis a sweet pic;)

Cheers tay. :D

Bitterfly
06-04-09, 11:14 PM
hahaah shit man trust me to think that :rvmp:

well, better early than never i guess :D

but honestly mate i would like to lick one those leaves man, that resin production is in orbit hahaahha:Nice:

bubbs
08-04-09, 10:15 PM
excellent Monty :drool: they are well lush mate yummy yummy :D another fantastic grow there mate :D

Monty Bong
08-04-09, 10:20 PM
Cheers bubbs :D


Your making me blush :o:D

Monty Bong
11-04-09, 01:39 PM
Penultimate update,

About 2 weeks left to go, although a couple of colas are being taken today, a bit early as the calyxs have yet to swell, but needs must and all that...;)

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge69.jpghttps://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge_70.jpg
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge_71.jpg
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge_72.jpg

And the cuts. The little one at the front is the one I dropped, but she's started rooting now, so thats 100% success rate. :D

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge_73.jpg

The next and last update will be the harvesting of Sharon & Stacey, I will continue putting cuts in the fridge until i'm ready to start them off, but I will no longer keep updating this diary,...I'm getting a bit bored of it tbh. :stoned-smilie:

ImALittleGreenMan
11-04-09, 02:44 PM
looking sweet man! happy birthday to ya m8 whenever it is and enjoy the smoke!
peace

dekay
15-04-09, 08:30 PM
Yet another successful mission my friend, excellent as always, cant wait to get back on track meself but thatll take a few months yet.

Monty Bong
24-04-09, 01:07 PM
Stacy's down..:D


https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/harvest2.jpg

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/harvest1.jpg

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/harvest.jpg

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/harvest3.jpg

A bud I took about 4 days ago..

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/harvest4.jpg

I'm giving Sharon another week or so, I've swapped 400 HPS bulb for a 400 MH, this will encourage trichome production during her final days.

buddin nutt
24-04-09, 01:39 PM
awesome harvest m8 ..truely a job well done

stoneroz
24-04-09, 01:48 PM
Nice one MB.
that harvest looks sweet. Happy tokin dude!!

bigbudbenj
24-04-09, 08:10 PM
That looks superb, all that bud from 1 plant.....my god happy days :party:

cheech&chong
25-04-09, 11:12 PM
Thoroughly fascinating monty. good job, dont know if i missed it monty but do you have to open the bags every so often to allow for air exchange or not mate??

Monty Bong
26-04-09, 11:51 AM
Thanks for the comments again guys, I have to say I am happy with the yeild so far and Sharon, who is coming down next week is even bigger than Stacey :dance2:

Cheech, the bags need to be airtight and remain sealed until your ready to plant them. Not sure why. ;)

Bitterfly
26-04-09, 02:16 PM
what a result mate, mouthwatering buds...give yourself a pat on the back mate!;)

Mr Spliffy
26-04-09, 03:08 PM
Foookin awesome monty well done meat enjoy the fruits of your labour!

bubbs
26-04-09, 03:35 PM
very nice looking buds yummy :harvest:

Tay
27-04-09, 02:15 AM
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/harvest4.jpg


:laugh: i've never felt this way about another man's piece!!

any of your tester made it to your lungs yet then monty? it's been a while since i've puffed some BC, i had 1 fem seed and it didn't germ :( i crave that lovely musky taste like nothing else. lookin forward to seeing sharon undress mate.

Monty Bong
28-04-09, 05:04 PM
Thanks for the comments everyone :D

Tay, I'm smoking that bud now mate,...very nice indeed :dance2:

Well it's only been 4 days but I couldn't wait any longer, I need the space so Sharon came down today after 64 days of 12/12

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/harvest_sharona.jpg

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/harvest_sharon1a.jpg

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/harvest_sharon2.jpg

Montys a happy bunny :barmy:

Bitterfly
28-04-09, 05:15 PM
Montys a happy bunny :barmy:

hahaha and with good reason, thats a ludicrous amount of bud :D

greendog
28-04-09, 05:36 PM
Brilliant mate, fantastic grow & diary, awesome looking buds. i like your drying rack, gonna pinch that idea. well done mate.

Tay
28-04-09, 07:07 PM
wall o weed:D well done mate:mr: nothing but top class weedsmanship!

Monty Bong
28-04-09, 08:24 PM
hahaha and with good reason, thats a ludicrous amount of bud :D

Ta very much Bitts, I'm well happy with the yeild, think this pheno gona stick with me for quite a few more grows. (Still got another 5 cuts chilling in the fridge ;) )


Brilliant mate, fantastic grow & diary, awesome looking buds. i like your drying rack, gonna pinch that idea. well done mate.

Thanks greendog, I used to use a sock hanger....till plod took it with them...gits.


wall o weed:D well done mate:mr: nothing but top class weedsmanship!

Cheers Tay, weedmanship lol, I like that word, I'm going to try and use it more in conversation.

Monty Bong
08-05-09, 12:34 PM
Time to bring this diary to a close, for now anyway ;)

Total dry weight after removing the stems...175g or in old money about 6 1/4 Oz, which is well below my target of 4oz per plant, instead I got just over 3, but it's just about enough to keep me and the missus going until the next harvest.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge_74.jpg

I'm stoned on top notch weed and I estimate it's cost me about £15 an Oz :laugh:


I still have some cuts I took in the fridge that were taken 24 of Feb (page 4 of this diary).

Here they are today.....https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge_75.jpg

I think it's amazing, any other plant or vegetable that had been in the fridge for over 2 months,...73 days, would just be a gooey mess at the bottom of the bag by now. I'll try rooting them when I have space.

Thanks to everyone who has looked in and all the nice comments. Keep it green!

MB

THOMAS CHONG
09-05-09, 04:55 PM
well done m8 good grow, and good luck with the cuts

diceman23
18-05-09, 05:26 AM
So how long in total did you Veg for Monty? Amazing plants

Monty Bong
18-05-09, 12:26 PM
So how long in total did you Veg for Monty? Amazing plants

Thanks,

the cuts were in the fridge for about 40 days, they took about 3 weeks to root, then vegged for another 5 weeks.

Proph
18-05-09, 06:54 PM
Loved this one m8!
congrats on sticky status!

Peace!

/Mr P

OldSkoolDude
21-05-09, 07:51 PM
Absolutely fantastic mate.. Just read through the whole thread..

Just a couple of questions..

Did you crop ALL new growth except the ones you took as cuttings?

What does LST stand for?

Cheers.. And a very big hand for you. :greet:

bubbs
21-05-09, 07:55 PM
i love this thread :D

Monty Bong
21-05-09, 08:13 PM
Oh wow, it's been made a Sticky :D Tbh I didn't think people were that interested :(

I still find it astounding that you can take cuts, put them in the fridge for over a month and they'll still root, I hope others will put it to good use. :)

Monty Bong
21-05-09, 08:21 PM
Absolutely fantastic mate.. Just read through the whole thread..

Just a couple of questions..

Did you crop ALL new growth except the ones you took as cuttings?

What does LST stand for?

Cheers.. And a very big hand for you. :greet:

Yep, I cut off all the growing tips and most of them I saved for cuts.

LST stands for Low Stress Training, after I had cut all the tips off I gave the plants a couple of weeks to recover, then started tying the main branches down and secured them to the side of the pot. This opens up the plant to the available light, the buds sites that would have been under the canopy are now exposed to full light and grow upwards to form colas. Hope that makes sense, I am quite wasted. :)

bubbs
21-05-09, 09:46 PM
i know of a few that are quite amazed at this method too :D sticky is well deserved ;)

stoneroz
22-05-09, 11:29 AM
MB, well done on the sticky thread, well deserved. Good one and toke on....

The_Ganja_Farmer
22-05-09, 03:32 PM
i'm impressed mr bong! nice yields there eh?

hope mine turn out like that! i doubt it though lol

Happy tokin kiddo :D

Sub

mickyisthebest
07-06-09, 02:21 PM
aup mate. i want some cuttings of that!!. lol that shit looks the absolute dogs bollox. u live anywhere near nottingham?

Disturbed
07-06-09, 11:25 PM
How long do you guys think the cuttings would survive in the fridge for? I was wondering that if i took clones from this year's outdoor, would they still get roots in late April next year? And where do i buy them zip-up bags from?

Monty Bong
11-06-09, 01:30 PM
How long do you guys think the cuttings would survive in the fridge for? I was wondering that if i took clones from this year's outdoor, would they still get roots in late April next year? And where do i buy them zip-up bags from?


I think you'd be very lucky if they still rooted after that amount of time. The longest i've done it is 41 days but a mate has taken them over 70 days, I think they could go a bit longer but not much.

The main reason this technique could be beneficial to percy growers is, if they only have 1 light, they can take cuts just before flipping to 12/12. Mark which cuts come from what plant, after the doner plants have finished flowering and you know which is the best pheno, you can then root the cuts of that particular plant. :)

hawkman
14-06-09, 11:28 PM
Very nice job MB.....Really enjoy your work on fridging...
I want to start cloning after this first grow and it's encouraging how long you're finding these will save in the refridgerator...
I will continue to brush up w/ your posts...
Thx...

Peace

Hawk

bubbs
15-06-09, 08:37 AM
im gonna have a go at this MB i hope i dont feck it up :D hehe

Monty Bong
15-06-09, 09:29 AM
It's easy bubbs, if i can do it successfully anyone can :D

ddsdavey
28-07-09, 03:06 PM
aup mate. i want some cuttings of that!!. lol that shit looks the absolute dogs bollox. u live anywhere near nottingham?

LMFAO,15 posts,i smell BACON!
Monty,you rule mate.Completely rule!
Im sat here with 16 veggin with months to go and aint had a joint for 24 hours (thats bad for me!) because of a BLOODY droubt and seeing your grill of buds made me leave the site for an hour or 2 cause it made me sick.
YOU make me sick (with jealousy!)

Tetra
20-08-09, 07:20 AM
Congrats to the sticky Monty :) Great harvest there, as always :D

shark
23-08-09, 05:01 PM
:shocked:
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/harvest_sharon2.jpg

drool.. ! looks like they just came out the deep freeze! thats quite a haul of big sticky nuggets monty! 10/10 mate!

popefull27
25-08-09, 04:51 AM
HOLY SHIT I want some of that

ddsdavey
31-08-09, 07:05 PM
I had some blue cheese the other night,probably not upto Montys standards but good street weed non the less,i had it before and love it.Im yet to find such an easily distinguished strain.Its just so damn tasty and smells amazing and then it kicks your face in.
Perfection imo.

b.t.y
09-09-09, 10:47 PM
top diary monty

im gonna go get a bag john inness and some string tomorrow

ddsdavey
10-09-09, 09:27 AM
top diary monty

im gonna go get a bag john inness and some string tomorrow
Now come on,thats just bragging now isnt it!

massivemick
24-11-09, 08:42 AM
excellent grow mate...fukin bud looks immense

ChronicAholic
29-11-09, 01:43 AM
that is some shit hot but i want to start growin my own po marijuana for personal use and and dealin but no where to do it atm any1 got any sneeky lil sly ways to grow bud on the low?

Monty Bong
29-11-09, 10:50 AM
i want to start growin my own po marijuana for personal use and and dealin but no where to do it atm any1 got any sneeky lil sly ways to grow bud on the low?

You could try a torch in a shoe box but I don't think you'll make very much money.

Eggbox
29-11-09, 11:20 AM
that is some shit hot but i want to start growin my own po marijuana for personal use and and dealin but no where to do it atm any1 got any sneeky lil sly ways to grow bud on the low?

This isn't a dealing website pal. we frown on commercial grows(and grammar as shocking as that :p) so don't come around asking for tips on dealing related stuff.. Going on your age, you're old enough to move out of your folks house so maybe you should try that..

ddsdavey
04-12-09, 03:44 AM
Sneaky lil sly ways to smoke and AND deal,dont want much do ya kiddo.
Surely the "Milky way" has room for a small op?

Anvil Toker
13-12-09, 01:33 PM
I have got to say there Monty you sure have given me some hope for one of my future grows, I have always tried to think of a way to prolong the life of clippings.
I will have to give this a shot. Also Top Notch Grow Diary!!!:bigjoint:
Very impressed with the quality and the results of your venture and all the great pics as well.

Purely awesome, Keep up the great work and enjoy the fruits of you labor!

Cheers!

Anvil

dragonsilverlights
02-01-10, 10:25 PM
:smokie:very very nice, a job well done grt job, thats what we like to see at the end a worth while smoke:smokie:
some good sound advice2 well done:smokie:good luck and god bless:smokie:

takka360
27-01-10, 06:56 AM
Very nice,it's people like you that make this site so good Monty.

duggie20091
28-01-10, 08:27 PM
shit-hot monty hope my bluecheese turns out like yours im'e going to start a diary myself,i took clones about 2weeks ago just repoted them yesterday,i made a wee grow room for them,i had them in with my ladies till they rooted they have been on 12/12 since they started but put them on 20/4 yesterday they look healthy but how long should keep them veging for?

Monty Bong
28-01-10, 08:45 PM
shit-hot monty hope my bluecheese turns out like yours im'e going to start a diary myself,i took clones about 2weeks ago just repoted them yesterday,i made a wee grow room for them,i had them in with my ladies till they rooted they have been on 12/12 since they started but put them on 20/4 yesterday they look healthy but how long should keep them veging for?

Thanks duggie

How long to veg them for really depends on your set up, how much space you have and what kind of light you are running. I prefer to veg as long as I can and grow quite large plants, other growers prefer more plants and a shorter veg time. Your best bet is too start a diary letting people know what set up you have and you'll get plenty of advice and opinions on how best to utilise your space. ;)

Good luck :)

duggie20091
28-01-10, 10:58 PM
i have 2 B/C ladies that i veged for five weeks from seed they have been in flower now coming up to 5weeks they seem to have stopped gaining hight but buds are filling out nice,so should it be roughly the same time veging for clones as to seed to get them roughly the same as me ladies?

duggie20091
28-01-10, 11:11 PM
i was wondering if you veg clones for roughly the sametime as seed cause ive got 2 B/C ladies that i veged from seed for 5weeks they have now been flowering coming upto 5weeks and they are a perfect size,they seem to have stopped growing in hight and the buds are getting alot thicker

jiggy89
22-11-10, 03:39 PM
nice job bruv they look great...
got a few blue cheese seeds myself was just wondering wat chemz you used???

clarkEEE1
23-12-10, 08:57 AM
jusr read all the way through your thread great read and some very useful information.

nomeid
25-12-10, 07:35 PM
realy nice keep goin

K-fox
28-12-10, 03:22 PM
I just wanna ask did u ever do clones where you lost your leaves? if so, how did they do?
What type of light are you using (am little new to grow & budget ran out)?
thanks for ur helpful info..


Clones are coming on a treat, no roots showing out of the bottom yet but they will be in the next few days ;)

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge63.jpg


More bud of the mums....

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge61.jpg
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge62.jpg

The plants are starting to get quite a lot of yellowing beneath the canopy and on the larger fan leaves, which in my opinion is a good thing. The plant is diverting stored nitrogen from these leaves to feed upper bud development.

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge60.jpg
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge59.jpg

The LST still keeping an even canopy, I can get the light right down and get a close even spread of light across both plants....the buds love it. :)

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/bc_fridge64.jpg

K-fox
28-12-10, 03:23 PM
Nice Job..love it!

Thanks mate, I top, let them recover, then LST. ;)



Ta very much. :D

Quite a bit of yellowing going on and signs their lacking a bit in Mg, I gave them a dose of Epsoms today, but other than that I'm too stoned to give a f*ck:bigjoint:

Porn time :)

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager20.jpg

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager21.jpg

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager23.jpg

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager22.jpg

https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/wager24.jpg

loopy
06-04-11, 01:10 PM
hi there, i put some cheese cuts in the fridge too, i kept mine in watr totaly submerged, they also rooted themselves in the first 2 weeks they lasted over 2 months before any signs of decay or ill effect, they turned out fine adults when put i9nto veg.

Boo
11-04-11, 11:08 AM
hi there, i put some cheese cuts in the fridge too, i kept mine in watr totaly submerged, they also rooted themselves in the first 2 weeks they lasted over 2 months before any signs of decay or ill effect, they turned out fine adults when put i9nto veg.

Interesting take on the process - guarantees they won't get frost burn anyway...

Boo

horaizon
07-07-11, 12:32 PM
wowww that great :xmas::xmas: