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Beezerk
15-10-11, 12:24 PM
Pictures aren't perfect as the front two plants are hiding the rear ones a bit and I don't have much room to work with lol.
The rear two grew taller so I tucked them over and then under the mesh holes, does it look ok? Waiting for the front two to catch up so I can do the same...
I've tried to keep the leaves out of the way under the screen but should I let them through to the top?

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Thoughts and advice would be appreciated :leaf:

Stimpy
15-10-11, 06:35 PM
Just been reading this https://www.thctalk.com/cannabis-forum/showthread.php?22835-Attention-scrogging-noobs!! as I am thinking of doing a scrog next, I have to keep a couple of plants in veg for longer than I want and scrogging requires longer veg.

From what that guide says it seems you need to pull those plant tops back under the screen mate until you fill most of the underside. Then switch to flower.

Beezerk
15-10-11, 06:45 PM
Yeah, I've just pulled them all back under to fill the lower canopy more.

Stimpy
15-10-11, 06:47 PM
can you post some pics mate ? I'd like to see how it looks.

Beezerk
16-10-11, 10:08 AM
Will do mate, I didn't realise you needed to fill out the lower canopy first, I was just kinda doing this...

http://coltivazioneindoor.info/eng/techniques/scrogeng.jpg

nuube
16-10-11, 10:40 AM
My last grow was a scrog, and from now on if I can I will scrog much better harvest to be had - MUCH BETTER. Looking good mate. Keep pulling back through and remember to space the branches out so you can cover the whole screen and the low growth can be removed as it isn't going to give you much. If you check the link in my sig to the hammerhead scrog you should find some tips on there.

The Fringe
16-10-11, 10:48 AM
Check out my mount cook grow, I'm half way through filling the screen at the mo, Im due an update, but you should see how I train them under the mesh.
https://www.thctalk.com/cannabis-forum/showthread.php?54081-Mount-Cook-modular-Scrog-in-soil-auto-feeder

TF

Beezerk
16-10-11, 11:28 AM
Awesome thanks a lot mate, rearranged mine earlier (and added a homemade carbon filter lol) so they go along the underside of the screen, at what point do you start to pull them through?

The Fringe
16-10-11, 11:45 AM
Lol, you won't have to pull them through, they do that themselves.
What you need to do, is let them stick through a few inches, then poke them back under the mesh, trying to get a future bud sites into a hole, when the mesh is almost full, thow them 12/12 & watch what happens.

The key is to keep the canopy an even height all the way through the veg period, I use super cropping, along with topping/fimming to control the speed of the growth. Its not a short process, but if you have the time, it really can improve yields.

TF

Forest
16-10-11, 12:04 PM
i scrog as well best way to use your space and get best yield

any tips that grow though tuck them under the screen, as when a plant is bent over it stimulate's them to throw our more branching which you want, you can top , fim or super crop but its not essential , you can do it just as well with out using those methods as fringe says the key is to aim for one or two tips per hole and you need to train everything back under the screen until you have got a good 80% filled then flip your light cycle to 12/12 and continue training until about 9/11 days after or you see the first signs of flowers forming then let them grow on up and you will get a even canopy if you growing all the same strain of about 8/12 inch in hight
if you need any help just ask
good luck with it

Beezerk
16-10-11, 12:37 PM
My grow is almost 12/12 from seed as it's in a pc case, they've been on 12/12 for a couple of weeks now.

Stimpy
16-10-11, 12:55 PM
My grow is almost 12/12 from seed as it's in a pc case, they've been on 12/12 for a couple of weeks now.

I never realised that from the pictures mate, it looks bigger !
Just noticed how huge the cable ties are now I look at the pics again lol.

Forest
16-10-11, 01:02 PM
12/12 from seed then? ive no idea when to not train them any more then! lol not my bag bro good luck with it

after looking at the pics again knowing it is a pc case i would move the screen down a lot, cut holes to push the plants through if you have to and tie them girll down big time you dont have much head room in there and that would give you more space which you need ive done one 12/12 from seed, three c99 plant they went to a meter in hight (they were a sativa plant)

Beezerk
16-10-11, 01:06 PM
Some pics after a reshuffle, hopefully on the right tracks now

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They were actually vegged for a couple of weeks lol.

Forest
16-10-11, 01:08 PM
how long they been on 12/12?

up2nogood
16-10-11, 01:12 PM
I vegged mjy citral skunk for 6 weeks so I would get a fair bit of plant before flipping to fill my screen out,I only have one plant but I topped it at least 3 times to get more branches to fill the screen,it's now on 12/12 for about a week and as you can see it is getting full,the scrog is 3ft x 2ft
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/resized_100_0871.JPG
hope this gives you a idea

Forest
16-10-11, 01:14 PM
they needed more veg time really op

they are looking nice up 2 m8

nuube
16-10-11, 01:19 PM
You want to see an example of a lovely scrog take a look at didymao's diary:

Didy's Delights (https://www.thctalk.com/cannabis-forum/showthread.php?39170-six-fem-church-scrog-all-advice-welcome/page11&highlight=diddymao)

Beezerk
16-10-11, 01:27 PM
You want to see an example of a lovely scrog take a look at didymao's diary:

Didy's Delights (https://www.thctalk.com/cannabis-forum/showthread.php?39170-six-fem-church-scrog-all-advice-welcome/page11&highlight=diddymao)

Kinell that's some badass scrog there ffs, truly awesome.

Beezerk
16-10-11, 01:30 PM
12/12 from seed then? ive no idea when to not train them any more then! lol not my bag bro good luck with it

after looking at the pics again knowing it is a pc case i would move the screen down a lot, cut holes to push the plants through if you have to and tie them girll down big time you dont have much head room in there and that would give you more space which you need ive done one 12/12 from seed, three c99 plant they went to a meter in hight (they were a sativa plant)

Yeah I was thinking the screen was a bit high yesterday but I'll probably have to wait until the next grow as I need to redrill the case more to lower the screen.

Forest
16-10-11, 02:08 PM
from what ive seen and (currently trying my self) for small micro grows like yours its better to have a screen on top of the plants pot with them growing up though it and then tie em down it gives you the head room you need and you need all of it in a micro grow , plants look nice and healthy bro what light you got in there ?

Beezerk
16-10-11, 02:11 PM
Ahaaa thanks for that, I know exactly what you mean now, definitely going to update the box again after this grow.
Got a 125W red cfl and added a 15w blue cfl this time around to keep em healthy.

Forest
16-10-11, 02:16 PM
keep us updated on how it goes i love the micro growing side of it you see some great projects,
here what i meant this is a micro ive got going
https://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/2708/medium/DSCF0268.JPGhttps://www.thctalk.com/gallery/data/2708/medium/DSCF0265.JPG
these were a week ago you should see the side branching it has now its crazy, these two are in a coco hempy style pot under 70w of cmh power

Beezerk
16-10-11, 02:20 PM
Awesome mate, I imagine that's exactly what Forest meant about a really low scrog screen.
I've got a diary of the current grow pc case (Vanilla Kush) in my sig for those interested.

Forest
16-10-11, 02:34 PM
ill check out you dairy bro