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    So has Krazy dave been banned just for posting this report?
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    Quote Originally Posted by toblue View Post
    So has Krazy dave been banned just for posting this report?
    I don't know the reason for his ban but his last post was four years ago by what I can see


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    The more i read on cancer . The more im finding out its more of a fungus type growth then anythijg else . And its much more curable and preventable then thought . Of course its not in Doctors ,Pharmaceutical and health/hospital companies best interest to give the secrets . Chemo,radiation and meds can run into a Million $ per patient in most cases . Just do the math .

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    Since my dog was diagnosed with bladder cancer I've started giving her CBD oil, golden paste sausages and a taste of canna butter daily (not enough to get her stoned).
    The combination is doing wonders. She was straining and uncomfortable when diagnosed and has since reverted to how she was before. It's too much to hope we're beating the cancer, but it's definitely helping. If she's still with us in the summer I'm going to take her in for another scan. Hopefully they kept the previous one so we can see if it's stopped or pushed back the C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trex View Post
    The more i read on cancer . The more im finding out its more of a fungus type growth then anythijg else . And its much more curable and preventable then thought . Of course its not in Doctors ,Pharmaceutical and health/hospital companies best interest to give the secrets . Chemo,radiation and meds can run into a Million $ per patient in most cases . Just do the math .

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    Chemo (mustard gas) is just one big money making scam. The more I study cancer the more I think it could be easily cured if big money was not in control of research.

    As much as I hate cancer I do find it quite fascinating it is such a clever thing. It creates its own acid outer layer but has an alkaline core yet it can't survive in an alkaline environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkadin View Post
    Since my dog was diagnosed with bladder cancer I've started giving her CBD oil, golden paste sausages and a taste of canna butter daily (not enough to get her stoned).
    The combination is doing wonders. She was straining and uncomfortable when diagnosed and has since reverted to how she was before. It's too much to hope we're beating the cancer, but it's definitely helping. If she's still with us in the summer I'm going to take her in for another scan. Hopefully they kept the previous one so we can see if it's stopped or pushed back the C.
    Is that golden turmeric paste? Works wonders on my old bully's joints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toblue View Post
    So has Krazy dave been banned just for posting this report?
    Krazydave was banned before I was a Mod here but looking at his account it appears he was banned during the takeover by Inky & co.... and not banned for this thread....

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhIpLaSh View Post
    Is that golden turmeric paste? Works wonders on my old bully's joints.
    Yeah, I found a seller on Amazon the puts it in sausages. They're pretty dry but pooch enjoys em

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    Yeah This is very helpful material for those who are suffering from this kind of disease and Marijuana is the name given to the dried buds and leaves of varieties of the Cannabis sativa plant, which can grow wild in warm and tropical climates throughout the world and be cultivated commercially. It goes by many names, including pot, grass, cannabis, weed, hemp, hash, marihuana, ganja, and dozens of others.

    1-A number of small studies of smoked marijuana found that it can be helpful in treating nausea and vomiting from cancer chemotherapy.

    2-A few studies have found that inhaled (smoked or vaporized) marijuana can be helpful treatment of neuropathic pain (pain caused by damaged nerves).

    3-Smoked marijuana has also helped improve food intake in HIV patients in studies.

    4-There are no studies in people of the effects of marijuana oil or hemp oil.

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    Marijuana has been used as medicine among humans for millennia from treating cramping, earaches, malaria and everything in between, Marijuana has had a long- term influence on the medical world. While there may have been no scientific basis for using marijuana back then, research about the cannabis plants's medicinal properties has become more and more common.

    With the recent medical marijuana movement, marijuana is finally getting exposure as a reliable alternative medicine. Though marijuana was made illegal in 1947, several movements pushed against the statutes, arguing the medical benefits of consumption. Marijuana was then placed on the controlled substances act of 1970. It was labeled a schedule 1 drug, meaning it had high probability of abuse and no medical use.


    Despite this several researches began conducting experiments to see if marijuana really did have medical qualities. Some studies found that marijuana helps glaucoma, and other inflammatory diseases. Most notably, researchers found that when marijuana was given to patients undergoing chemotherapy, undesirable side effects decreased. Patients felt less nauseous, and were able to eat again. While these studies may be over 50 years old, they paved the way for more current research and hypothesis.

    Does Marijuana Kill Cancer Cells?
    While some studies point to yes more than no, it is important to break down the research to really understand the results, The national Institute Of cancer NCI even recognizes marijuana research may point to a break through fro treating cancer and tumors. Delving into the current research is important to understand just how effective marijuana can be in killing cancer.

    In a study from 2013, researchers sought to explore the activity of six different cannabinoids with normal cells as well as a combination with leukemia cells. They found that a several few cannabinoids resulted in dramatic reductions in cell viability meaning it killed off the leukemia cells.

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    Inquisitive to know about the medical benefits of Cannabis? Then, here you are. Cannabis or marijuana is not at all popular for its psychoactive nature only. It consists of numerous biological compounds which are commonly known as Cannabinoids. Two of these cannabinoids are THC and CBD and are found in the majority of cannabis-infused food and medicines. After it’s legalization, medical cannabis is allowed to be prescribed by medical practitioners.

    Different strains or types of cannabis can have varying amounts of different active compounds in them. Each compound present in cannabis may have distinct effects on the human body. And this is to be noted that these effects depend on the method of consumption also like, taken by mouth or smoked.

    Several studies conducted in this direction have mentioned that medical cannabis can relax a person with some curative problems. One of these medical conditions is cancer. It is scientifically proven that cannabis helps treat nausea and vomiting resulting from cancer chemotherapy.

    Recently it is reported that THC and CBD can slow the growth or even kill death-causing cancer cells. Medical cannabis can even prevent cancer cells to be developed in certain conditions. Thus, cannabis consumption is safe during cancer treatment for helping other cancer medicines to respond faster. In other words, it is not said that only cannabis can cure cancer patients. The cannabis intake should be supported by medical advice.

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    Although further studies have yet to be reviewed to prove these claims, but the cannabinoids in cannabis oil have undeniably helped cancer patients one way or another. Chemotherapy patients have also turned to cannabis oil for alleviating their post-chemo side effects such as nausea, vomiting, fatigue, inflammation, neuropathic pain, immune suppression, and loss of appetite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkadin View Post
    Since my dog was diagnosed with bladder cancer I've started giving her CBD oil, golden paste sausages and a taste of canna butter daily (not enough to get her stoned).
    The combination is doing wonders. She was straining and uncomfortable when diagnosed and has since reverted to how she was before. It's too much to hope we're beating the cancer, but it's definitely helping. If she's still with us in the summer I'm going to take her in for another scan. Hopefully they kept the previous one so we can see if it's stopped or pushed back the C.
    Havent rechecked her condition but she's still going strong... touch wood

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    Glad your dog seems to respond to your regimen. Keep it going Silk. Thats a powerful combo. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyDave View Post
    I found this online and thought it would be a good addition to the medical section.

    First let’s look at what keeps cancer cells alive, then we will come back and examine how the cannabinoids CBD (cannabidiol) and THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) unravels cancer’s alivenes.

    In every cell there is a family of interconvertible sphingolipids that specifically manage the life and death of that cell. This profile of factors is called the “Sphingolipid Rheostat.” If endogenous ceramide(a signaling metabolite of sphingosine-1-phosphate) is high, then cell death (apoptosis) is imminent. If ceramide is low, the cell is strong in its vitality.

    Very simply, when THC connects to the CB1 or CB2 cannabinoid receptor site on the cancer cell, it causes an increase in ceramide synthesis which drives cell death. A normal healthy cell does not produce ceramide in the presence of THC, thus is not affected by the cannabinoid.

    The cancer cell dies, not because of cytotoxic chemicals, but because of a tiny little shift in the mitochondria. Within most cells there is a cell nucleus, numerous mitochondria (hundreds to thousands), and various other organelles in the cytoplasm. The purpose of the mitochondria is to produce energy (ATP) for cell use. As ceramide starts to accumulate, turning up the Sphingolipid Rheostat, it increases the mitochondrial membrane pore permeability to cytochrome c, a critical protein in energy synthesis. Cytochrome c is pushed out of the mitochondria, killing the source of energy for the cell.

    Ceramide also causes genotoxic stress in the cancer cell nucleus generating a protein called p53, whose job it is to disrupt calcium metabolism in the mitochondria. If this weren’t enough, ceramide disrupts the cellular lysosome, the cell’s digestive system that provides nutrients for all cell functions. Ceramide, and other sphingolipids, actively inhibit pro survival pathways in the cell leaving no possibility at all of cancer cell survival.

    The key to this process is the accumulation of ceramide in the system. This means taking therapeutic amounts of CBD and THC, steadily, over a period of time, keeping metabolic pressure on this cancer cell death pathway. How did this pathway come to be? Why is it that the body can take a simple plant enzyme and use it for profound healing in many different physiological systems? This endocannabinoid system exists in all animal life, just waiting for its matched exocannabinoid activator. This is interesting. Our own endocannabinoid system covers all cells and nerves; it is the messenger of information flowing between our immune system and the central nervous system (CNS). It is responsible for neuroprotection, and micro-manages the immune system. This is the primary control system that maintains homeostasis; our well being.

    Just out of curiosity, how does the work get done at the cellular level, and where does the body make the endocannabinoids? Here we see that endocannabinoids have their origin in nerve cells right at the synapse. When the body is compromised through illness or injury it calls insistently to the endocannabinoid system and directs the immune system to bring healing. If these homeostatic systems are weakened, it should be no surprise that exocannabinoids are therapeutic. It helps the body in the most natural way possible.

    To see how this works we visualize the cannabinoid as a three dimensional molecule, where one part of the molecule is configured to fit the nerve or immune cell receptor site just like a key in a lock. There are at least two types of cannabinoid receptor sites, CB1 (CNS)and CB2 (immune). In general CB1 activates the CNS messaging system, and CB2 activates the immune system, but it’s much more complex than this. Both THC and anandamide activate both receptor sites. Other cannabinoids activate one or the other receptor sites. Among the strains of Cannabis, C. sativa tends toward the CB1 receptor, and C. indica tends toward CB2. So sativa is more neuroactive, and indica is more immunoactive. Another factor here is that sativa is dominated by THC cannabinoids, and indica is predominately CBD (cannabidiol).

    It is known that THC and CBD are biomimetic to anandamide, that is, the body can use both interchangeably. Thus, when stress, injury, or illness demand more from endogenous anandamide than can be produced by the body, its mimetic exocannabinoids are activated. If the stress is transitory, then the treatment can be transitory. If the demand is sustained, such as in cancer, then treatment needs to provide sustained pressure of the modulating agent on the homeostatic systems.

    Typically CBD gravitates to the densely packed CB2 receptors in the spleen, home to the body’s immune system. From there, immune cells seek out and destroy cancer cells. Interestingly, it has been shown that THC and CBD cannabinoids have the ability to kill cancer cells directly without going through immune intermediaries. THC and CBD hijack the lipoxygenase pathway to directly inhibit tumor growth. As a side note, it has been discovered that CBD inhibits anandamide reuptake. Here we see that cannabidiol helps the body preserve its own natural endocannabinoid by inhibiting the enzyme that breaks
    down anandamide.

    I would like to leave you with an appreciation that nature has designed the perfect medicine that fits exactly with our own immune system of receptors and signaling metabolites to provide rapid and complete immune response for systemic integrity and metabolic homeostasis.
    I found it useful.

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    The potential curative effects are only a part of the story.
    Chemotherapy has in some applications become very refined but it is still from mildly to highly toxic upon the human body in it's current forms, it has to be to cause cell necrosis, it can be indiscriminate on which kind of cells it attacks, both healthy and non.
    This in itself produces many unwanted side effects leading to more sufferance.

    When someone has cancer there are a myriad of problems created as the poor soul goes through the entire 'process', lack of appetite, fatigue, depression, anxiety, skin complaints, hair loss, weight loss, it goes on and on.
    I have seen studies where certain rogue cells are subject to necrosis when exposed to Cannabis within the body (not a petri dish), but Cannabis is not currently (or maybe ever) the definitive answer to cancer. That is what Chemotherapy does (for now) The autoimmune response therapies are a positive step forward but again only time will show their overall efficacy, unfortunately time can (but not always) be short for those suffering from a diagnosis.

    What Cannabis can most definitely do, I have seen it myself, is help alleviate some of the nasty side effects. Depression and anxiety can be alleviated with an approximate mix of 50/50 THC/CBD.
    Appetite can be restored, a calming of the mind, lowering of blood pressure (stress) and a generally more positive outlook on life.
    Chemotherapy and keeping a positive attitude is the best thing you can do.
    For anyone going through this right now, I can attest you can beat a darker prognosis, you can live a reasonably normal life and Cannabis may well help you achieve this.


    Will cancer adapt? it does already, treatments for some types of cancer stop working after periods of time, the medications need to be switched for some non curative therapies to maintain efficacy.
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