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    Firstly I would like to apologise in advance as I am going to be asking a lot of questions as I am a newbie and will need your help profusely
    This is my tent setup...
    Ballast 600w ---- 600w Bulb Dual Spectrum ---- Reflector
    Tent - 1.2m2
    Swiftair Inline fan kit - Centrifugal fan, Carbon Filter 4”.
    Nutrients that i have...
    Rhizotonic
    Canna A and B
    Cannazym
    Canna start
    Canna aktrovater trichoderma
    And camag as i gave soft water.
    Soil...
    Canna coco natural
    Perlite
    Ecothrive charge.
    Pots 15L x4
    Ok that's what I have. How much perlite do I add to a 15 litre pot of soil as I’ve read that you do not add nutes if you add perlite 50/50 with soil , as it can cause nute burn? Is this true?
    Also how much eco thrive to add to 15L pot if soil.
    Once girls are planted what nutes do i start if with? As i been told only rhizo 2ml per litre. One again i apologise in advance for all the questions. You read so much and every time i read something its different to the last one i read. So just gonna stick to my grow diary with the hopes if you guys helping. 😊
    Lights will be on 18/6. Do i switch the extracted fan off at the same time as the lights? Along with my intake?
    Thank you for any response in advance.
    Also what should pH, humudty and temp be at the first stage of girls going into their pots?

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    The canna coco natural isn't soil mate it's an alternative inert medium which provides the plants with no nutrients other than the A and B you add to it. I'd scrap the perlite as it's not needed. If it was a soil grow you'd need it but coco is good to go straight from the bag.

    You may find your going to struggle with temps running a 600w and a 4 inch extraction in that space, I'd run your set up first before adding the plants, should give you a good idea what your environments like. Also your fans need to be running 24/7 bringing clean air in and taking the stale air out.

    Start with the Rhizotonic first as you've mentioned 2ml per L every feed and depending on you back ground EC you may to add A and B from the start. your Ph needs to be 5.8 every feed as well. Which will be daily in coco once you have a decent rootball.
    I keep my lights on temps around 25c and my lights off temps no lower than 20c with a humidity of 50-60% in Veg .

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    Your goin to need bigger extraction in there mate sorry to say 😦

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    And defo active intake... summer comin dude its already warmin up 😎

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    Thanks for the input I'll take it on board and what would happen if there was too much heat?? Is it recoverable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WellBlue View Post
    The canna coco natural isn't soil mate it's an alternative inert medium which provides the plants with no nutrients other than the A and B you add to it. I'd scrap the perlite as it's not needed. If it was a soil grow you'd need it but coco is good to go straight from the bag.

    You may find your going to struggle with temps running a 600w and a 4 inch extraction in that space, I'd run your set up first before adding the plants, should give you a good idea what your environments like. Also your fans need to be running 24/7 bringing clean air in and taking the stale air out.

    Start with the Rhizotonic first as you've mentioned 2ml per L every feed and depending on you back ground EC you may to add A and B from the start. your Ph needs to be 5.8 every feed as well. Which will be daily in coco once you have a decent rootball.
    I keep my lights on temps around 25c and my lights off temps no lower than 20c with a humidity of 50-60% in Veg .
    Well I'm on a tight budget so instead of buying a bigger fan do you think a 400 w bulb will be better to buy? Will it still give of enough heat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WellBlue View Post
    The canna coco natural isn't soil mate it's an alternative inert medium which provides the plants with no nutrients other than the A and B you add to it. I'd scrap the perlite as it's not needed. If it was a soil grow you'd need it but coco is good to go straight from the bag.

    You may find your going to struggle with temps running a 600w and a 4 inch extraction in that space, I'd run your set up first before adding the plants, should give you a good idea what your environments like. Also your fans need to be running 24/7 bringing clean air in and taking the stale air out.

    Start with the Rhizotonic first as you've mentioned 2ml per L every feed and depending on you back ground EC you may to add A and B from the start. your Ph needs to be 5.8 every feed as well. Which will be daily in coco once you have a decent rootball.
    I keep my lights on temps around 25c and my lights off temps no lower than 20c with a humidity of 50-60% in Veg .
    Im just doing a trial run before girls arrive. At the min temp is 23c in. 28c out. Lights n fans been on hour n half

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvfcno1 View Post
    Im just doing a trial run before girls arrive. At the min temp is 23c in. 28c out. Lights n fans been on hour n half

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    Stick with the 600w for now and see how it goes. As the weather warms up you may have heat issues with anything over 30c But
    23c inside should be fine mate but 25-26 is what I aim for. I'd do the trial run 18/6 just as you would with the plants in.

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    Can I do haze cutting with this setup? Been told I have to wait for cheese cuttings not impressed lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvfcno1 View Post
    Can I do haze cutting with this setup? Been told I have to wait for cheese cuttings not impressed lol.

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    you can do any strain you like providing you train them to suit your grow space and flip them over to flower at the right time. I think the haze are more sativia dominant which means they could grow taller and take slightly longer to finish but i cant see it being a problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by WellBlue View Post
    you can do any strain you like providing you train them to suit your grow space and flip them over to flower at the right time. I think the haze are more sativia dominant which means they could grow taller and take slightly longer to finish but i cant see it being a problem
    Sorry I should have said this to start with but It will be ok to do haze with canna nutes and canna coco natural medium?? And will it still be a good high?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvfcno1 View Post
    Sorry I should have said this to start with but It will be ok to do haze with canna nutes and canna coco natural medium?? And will it still be a good high?

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    yes, the coco is suited to growing any strain as is most grow mediums. Regarding high it all depends what your looking for but either way it will provide a good high im sure. Do you know the specific type of haze it is? If you do have a look online for some strain descriptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WellBlue View Post
    yes, the coco is suited to growing any strain as is most grow mediums. Regarding high it all depends what your looking for but either way it will provide a good high im sure. Do you know the specific type of haze it is? If you do have a look online for some strain descriptions.
    Alright thanks and I'm pretty sure it's just a standard normal haze that's all I've been told and how long is the flowering time on haze? I've been told it's 20 weeks? That can't be true

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvfcno1 View Post
    Alright thanks and I'm pretty sure it's just a standard normal haze that's all I've been told and how long is the flowering time on haze? I've been told it's 20 weeks? That can't be true

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    Theres many different hazes out there ranging from a flowering time of 9 weeks right through to 20 weeks as you've mentioned. thats the problem with clones you never know exactly what your getting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WellBlue View Post
    Theres many different hazes out there ranging from a flowering time of 9 weeks right through to 20 weeks as you've mentioned. thats the problem with clones you never know exactly what your getting.
    Well I've been told it's super lemon Haze so What's the flowering on that about 8 weeks or something? but again I've gotta wait for them my dude waiting for them to root

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvfcno1 View Post
    Well I've been told it's super lemon Haze so What's the flowering on that about 8 weeks or something? but again I've gotta wait for them my dude waiting for them to root

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    should be anything from 9-11 weeks, you can chop at different times all depends on what type of high your looking for but id say 9 weeks at least

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    Quote Originally Posted by WellBlue View Post
    should be anything from 9-11 weeks, you can chop at different times all depends on what type of high your looking for but id say 9 weeks at least
    Alright thanks and I'm after the best high I can get haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvfcno1 View Post


    Firstly I would like to apologise in advance as I am going to be asking a lot of questions as I am a newbie and will need your help profusely
    This is my tent setup...
    Ballast 600w ---- 600w Bulb Dual Spectrum ---- Reflector
    Tent - 1.2m2
    Swiftair Inline fan kit - Centrifugal fan, Carbon Filter 4”.
    Nutrients that i have...
    Rhizotonic
    Canna A and B
    Cannazym
    Canna start
    Canna aktrovater trichoderma
    And camag as i gave soft water.
    Soil...
    Canna coco natural
    Perlite
    Ecothrive charge.
    Pots 15L x4
    Ok that's what I have. How much perlite do I add to a 15 litre pot of soil as I’ve read that you do not add nutes if you add perlite 50/50 with soil , as it can cause nute burn? Is this true?
    Also how much eco thrive to add to 15L pot if soil.
    Once girls are planted what nutes do i start if with? As i been told only rhizo 2ml per litre. One again i apologise in advance for all the questions. You read so much and every time i read something its different to the last one i read. So just gonna stick to my grow diary with the hopes if you guys helping. 😊
    Lights will be on 18/6. Do i switch the extracted fan off at the same time as the lights? Along with my intake?
    Thank you for any response in advance.
    Also what should pH, humudty and temp be at the first stage of girls going into their pots?

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    At long long last! There in!! My girls ate here (cheese) and in their new homes.

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    When is the best time to feed girls? Morning or just before lights out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvfcno1 View Post
    When is the best time to feed girls? Morning or just before lights out?

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    an hour or two after the lights come on works best for me

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