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    Question Dimethyl ether DME extraction..

    Any of you guys or gals used Dimethyl ether for extraction yet..

    Read up over the the last few days on the net and seen afew tube vids on it but not don't no anybody who has used it yet..

    it is meant to give better results than butane, and is used in the food industry to extract oil's..

    and it boils of at room temp, so easyier and quicker to produce a finished product of gooey goodness..

    But can't be used on plastic extractor's..for anybody thinking of giving it ago..
    The above is just opinion..My opinion is law in my world..

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    So nobody used it then..
    Ok i got my shit being delivered today so in the next few days i will use me new bit of kit and gas to see what awaits..

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    So me shit came today and i have made some googey goodness..
    I used some dry leaf and some left over trim that i had put in a old pollen shaker and used to cover some moonrocks in pollen..
    So i read the instructions and packed me new DEXSO 50gram metal tube extractor with the used leaf and mashed up trim/leaf that had been used before and a few small wispy popcorn buds screwed the lid on and fitted the 3 legs then placed pyrex dish on table in garden and then placed extractor over pyrex dish..
    I then used my DEXSO gas DME Dimethyl Ether 500ml can and blasted the extractor and after a few seconds i see the tube go icey from the top where i am blasting gas in like a honey bee extractor..
    The icey white outside travels down the tube to the bottom and the gas pours out into me pyrex dish..
    After what seems like ages standing in me back garden i have used all the gas in can and now have a tripod of frozen metal and a empty can and a dish full of gas..following instructions and holding can on extractor for an extra couple of minutes i remove can..
    so after moving everything towards the light over back door i remove frozen icey extractor with oven gloves.
    And after i have gone inside house and came out with new white floor cloth bought today and placed under dish i waited.
    With the wind and chemical process the gas left the dish like steam from a kettle and after a few more minutes the level of gas was very shallow..
    I bought inside kitchen and placed on white cloth and washed backwards and forwards till only a yellow oil was left..
    within a minute the evaporation had taken place and a few quick scrapes with a blade..
    After a few scrapes on and off the blade i placed dish in larger dish with tap water and re heated the oil and after a few more scrapes on and off blade i have a
    golden yellow caramel looking goo..
    I started again from the start with the same process but this time i left it in the cold water bath a touch to long(only need to dip dish a second) and got alot more darker harder oil but still soft from heat so can use it like a piece of soft hash..
    So i have 2 types of finger stickin goodness..
    sorry i don't have a camera at the mo but when i do i will take pics of this..
    If any questions on process i will do my best to answer them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy roken View Post
    Any of you guys or gals used Dimethyl ether for extraction yet..

    Read up over the the last few days on the net and seen afew tube vids on it but not don't no anybody who has used it yet..

    it is meant to give better results than butane, and is used in the food industry to extract oil's..

    and it boils of at room temp, so easyier and quicker to produce a finished product of gooey goodness..

    But can't be used on plastic extractor's..for anybody thinking of giving it ago..
    I've used LDE (DME) for several extractions, I find I can't get a light color with DME, I'll post some pics, I'm using pure322 organic solvent.Click image for larger version. 

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    If anybody has some experience working with DME I'd sure appreciate some advice with this, I've seen the pure322 website and they show some pretty clear stuff, now they say.....

    Never grind your material!

    Grinding your material is not a process that should be taken using Pure322, doing this will cause the extraction of chlorophyll! Grinding your material is a Butane method and should never be done using our solvent. Saturation and vapor pressure will destroy the color your looking for!
    NEVER Soak or give your material a “bath!

    Doing this will result in pulling chlorophyll our solvent is not Nbutane and this technique should only be used by butane extractions. Your tube should be gently packed and the solvent should flow though evenly with no back pressure build up.

    Never pack your material too tight, this method should never be done! Our solvent should have no restrictions!!! Our solvent has 1 polar head and 2 non polar tails, packing your material too tight will cause saturation and vapor pressure in turn will create “heat transfer”. We are 100% sure having your material packed too tight will cause a dark colored extraction.

    High Trichome Recovery: Nearly, 95% of the natural products found in botanical oils are derived from the plant’s grandular trichomes. Independent research studies have demonstrated that our LDE extraction process is superior to all known methods for the extraction of botanical oils from grandular trichomes. Our LDE extraction process is amphiphilic by design where dimethyl ether has a polar head and two non-polar tails making it soluble in both hydrophilic (water-loving, polar) and lipophilic (fat-loving, non-polar). Dimethyl ether is perfectly suited to penetrate the waxy non-polar surface layer of the trichome and extract 100% of the non-polar terpenes and other essential botanical oils from the water inside. Alternatively, n-butane is completely non-polar solvent and the trichome’s cellular water exhibits strong repulsion forces.
    Mild Extraction Methods: The conventional toxic solvents n-butane, n-hexane require high process temperatures to boil them from the botanical oil extract. Despite best efforts, these toxic solvents are easily detectable in high concentrations (1000mg/kg) by chemical analysis (GC-MS). That greatly compromises the quality and composition of the botanical oil extract. Our LDE extraction process is performed at room temperature (70oF/21oC) and the dimethyl ether (b.p. = -11.2oF) boils off when released. The dimethyl ether is undetectable in the botanical oils by (GC-MS) chemical analysis. Our LDE extraction process is designed to be mild, with NO PURGE NEEDED, as to preserve the integrity of thermally sensitive natural products found in botanical oils. Our LDE process preserves the quality and composition of the botanical oil extract.
    Eco-Friendly: Conventional industrial solvents like n-butane, n-hexane, toluene, and dichloromethane contain detectable levels of toxic heavy metals. The inherent toxicity of these fossil fuel hydrocarbons have had a detrimental impact on the human health and the environment. The dimethyl ether for our LDE extraction process originates from animal, food, and agricultural biomass. It is free of toxic heavy metals like Arsenic, Barium, Lead, and Mercury.

    Anyway any help would be great, thanks all

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    This looks very interesting! It's a bit expensive but if you don't have the need for a vacuum oven it would be so much better.

    I wonder how long it's been selling under this brand name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingo View Post
    This looks very interesting! It's a bit expensive but if you don't have the need for a vacuum oven it would be so much better.

    I wonder how long it's been selling under this brand name.

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    This is what I've been dabbling with lately, the first picture is of an open blast done with a borosilicate 50mm mouth and 12 inch long pyrex tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingo View Post
    This looks very interesting! It's a bit expensive but if you don't have the need for a vacuum oven it would be so much better.

    I wonder how long it's been selling under this brand name.

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    This is what I've been dabbling with lately, the first picture is of an open blast done with a borosilicate 50mm (opening),12 inch long pyrex tube. I ran about a 100 grams through it, im just trying different techniques to see what yeilds the best, the problem with DME is it needs to move over the plant matter FAST or else you'll be extracting chlorophyll and lots of it, so thus is my dilemma cause I really like what they're saying about this product, I've been on a knowledge quest about hydrocarbons and what I've learned, which is alot, Most solvents leave behind trace amounts of heavy metals and they are the really bad ones like mercury and lead....sweet let's smoke some lead ! Oh and to boot butane especially N-butane is HIGHLY ADDICTIVE when inhaled, seriously look at the side affects from butane addiction, fuck my life...I've opened pandora's box, it's not just butane, it's a whole bunch of other Hydrocarbons that we are told are safe, but I'm here to tell ya that shit is fucking dangerous and I'm sure prolonged use of a product infused with invisible death with end up with some terrible form of cancer. So I've been using the DME a.k.a LDE, but practice makes perfect
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaayDogg View Post
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    This is what I've been dabbling with lately, the first picture is of an open blast done with a borosilicate 50mm mouth and 12 inch long pyrex tube.
    This extraction had NO PURGE done 100% atmospheric evaporation, kinda looks like live resin, it's not but it kinda
    looks like it.
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    Isn't DME more flammable than butane? Take extra care with heat and static electricity.

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