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    Hi all, currently I give my dog King kanine CBD oil daily for the bladder cancer and it works wonders. I'm wondering how I can make my own to match the strengths on the bottle I buy 300mg in 30ml. Are the 300mg figures the oil weight? How much oil can be made at that strength if I grew a purely CBD plant and harvested an ounce of bud along with all the trimmings?
    Currently it's costing a fair bit to keep restocking the oil.
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    Ive been wondering this myself mate but never found any answers :-( Its very frustrating mg & % seem to be two different worlds with no overlap.

    Best thing I came up with was to make your own medicine and then trial and error. Say 2 drops for pain. Increase as needed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkadin View Post
    Hi all, currently I give my dog King kanine CBD oil daily for the bladder cancer and it works wonders. I'm wondering how I can make my own to match the strengths on the bottle I buy 300mg in 30ml. Are the 300mg figures the oil weight? How much oil can be made at that strength if I grew a purely CBD plant and harvested an ounce of bud along with all the trimmings?
    Not entirely sure what you mean by Are the 300mg figures the oil weight?

    "300mg in 300ml" I would read that as 300mg CBD in 300ml of whatever comes out of the bottle. In other words, pour out everything there is in the bottle, you have 300mg CBD, in 300ml of liquid.

    There is no detailed info regarding what oil is used and densities and so on, so this will be a bit of a stab in the dark.

    To reverse engineer an oil of that concentration, somewhere along the line you'll need 300mg of CBD, and 300 ml of some edible oil.

    So if you had a 10% CBD strain, then assuming the seedbreeder's info is spot on and your grow skills is perfect and you have perfect bud that fits the blurb on the websites to a T, then, and only then, will you have this conversion:

    1 gram of that 10% CBD bud would have 100mg of CBD on it.

    So that bottle of oil that you bought off the internet (I presume), can be made with 3 grams of 10% CBD bud by some chemical industrial method into that oil, into that bottle.

    So if you used another strain, or you had a glitch in your grow, or you had a dud seed, much of that blurb I wrote above goes out the window. That's why that stuff needs lab testing for strengths and water content etc.

    I have also left out some of the more pedantic aspects in the calculation of X percentage in Y amount of oil sh*te because the density of oil is less than water, and data on purity of the cannabis extract etc is not available. It's however a near enough approximation and if it was me I would run it like that.

    No idea about the strengths of the trimmings.

    If your strain is 10% CBD and the grow went well and everything's perfect, 1 oz equals 28 grams so there is 2.8 gram CBD on that ounce of bud. To make a home brew version of that oil, your ounce can make just over 9 bottles of oil at 300 ml each.

    Hope that makes sense.
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    Awesome info there, tho its 30ml instead of 300. I've they do 3 strengths in the 30ml bottles... 75mg, 150mg and 300mg.

    Contains a mix of pure hemp extract, natural high omega-3 krill oil, and a touch of natural lavender for extra calming effects.

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    D'oh! Thanks, Silkadin. Let me rework that.

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    So their formulation has 300 mg CBD in 30 ml...

    3 gram of 10% bud in 30 ml oil.

    28 grams of 10% bud gives 280 ml oil if everything is perfect.

    How do you plan on getting the CBD into the oil?

    You know how I do mine, right? Bud plus coconut oil in a milk pan over the hob on the lowest setting, for 45-60 mins until the bubbles (the decarb) slow down. Strain with tea strainer then bottle up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentina View Post
    So their formulation has 300 mg CBD in 30 ml...

    3 gram of 10% bud in 30 ml oil.

    28 grams of 10% bud gives 280 ml oil if everything is perfect.

    How do you plan on getting the CBD into the oil?

    You know how I do mine, right? Bud plus coconut oil in a milk pan over the hob on the lowest setting, for 45-60 mins until the bubbles (the decarb) slow down. Strain with tea strainer then bottle up.
    I plan on copying you if I'm honest lol
    Big fan of coconut oil so will use that I think. Won't be for a while yet but def next grow will have one in there as it's costing 80 bucks per bottle per month atm.
    Thanks for explaining and doing the maths for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkadin View Post
    I plan on copying you if I'm honest lol
    Big fan of coconut oil so will use that I think. Won't be for a while yet but def next grow will have one in there as it's costing 80 bucks per bottle per month atm.
    Thanks for explaining and doing the maths for me
    You are most welcome, Silkadin! Sorry I c*cked up on the first time.

    This has actually got me thinking about strains and their reported THC and CBD percentages. If that is out in any way, the oil in the end could be stronger or weaker. The saving grace is that the worse case scenario is that we have a lethargic but happy and relaxed dog for as long as (s)he takes to metabolise the oil.

    I am in all honesty on a similar boat. I can buy a RSO type CBD paste, so we blend that with a oil with THC and use that. If it wasn't for my renal-impaired patient, I would probably never have been here. The oil has bought us time and though somewhere in the back of my mind there is that niggle, the only way to deal with it is to carry on.

    Dinafem's "Purple Orange" has been great for us. For now I have 2 CBD Sweet & Sour regs from Seedsman, I have been really hoping to get a male so we could have a few seeds, but your post has just brought me back down to earth that the priority is to have CBD bud, not breeding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentina View Post
    You are most welcome, Silkadin! Sorry I c*cked up on the first time.

    This has actually got me thinking about strains and their reported THC and CBD percentages. If that is out in any way, the oil in the end could be stronger or weaker. The saving grace is that the worse case scenario is that we have a lethargic but happy and relaxed dog for as long as (s)he takes to metabolise the oil.

    I am in all honesty on a similar boat. I can buy a RSO type CBD paste, so we blend that with a oil with THC and use that. If it wasn't for my renal-impaired patient, I would probably never have been here. The oil has bought us time and though somewhere in the back of my mind there is that niggle, the only way to deal with it is to carry on.

    Dinafem's "Purple Orange" has been great for us. For now I have 2 CBD Sweet & Sour regs from Seedsman, I have been really hoping to get a male so we could have a few seeds, but your post has just brought me back down to earth that the priority is to have CBD bud, not breeding.
    So I've been reading up on a few stickies here and am partway through watching that run from the cure documentary and if I understand correctly, the thc fights the cancer, or at least creates an environment where it dies, and the CBD helps make that possible whilst also treating some of the cancer symptoms like inflammation.
    Would it therefore make sense to get a strain with some thc content? Currently I give the pooch a Pettis poirs worth of northern lights Canna butter every day or two. Not enough to get her stoned I'm told and she handles it fine. I've seen doses for the CBD knocking about, but till today didn't realise how effective the thc was.

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    I read through the comments and I don’t think this will be overly redundant. I have been using CBD oil for 3 years now and take approximately 70 mg a day (5 x 1ml capsules @14 mg CBD per). dosing is very important as too little won’t give the full benefit and you will actually have a reduced benefit if you take too much. I started making my own oil as the manufactured oil was ungodly expensive. Unless you have the proper lab equipment it is difficult to get the concentrated CBD oil with a simple infusion process but I don’t think that should be a concern for you. Dosing is simple math.


    1 Gram of bud = 1000 mg

    1 g of 10% CBD = 100 mg of CBD

    Infuse 1 g of 10% CBD bud in 100 ml of carrier oil = 1% CBD per ml of oil



    My CBD bud is lab tested at 14% CBD so:

    10 g of bud = 1400 mg of CBD

    Infused in 100 ml of carrier oil = 14 mg CBD per ml.


    As you are making this for your fur baby, I would suggest you use lard for the carrier oil. One of the people I make capsules for can’t take butter, coconut oil or vegetable oils so I use lard and it works great. Hope this helps!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkadin View Post
    Hi all, currently I give my dog King kanine CBD oil daily for the bladder cancer and it works wonders. I'm wondering how I can make my own to match the strengths on the bottle I buy 300mg in 30ml. Are the 300mg figures the oil weight? How much oil can be made at that strength if I grew a purely CBD plant and harvested an ounce of bud along with all the trimmings?
    Currently it's costing a fair bit to keep restocking the oil.
    right mate 300mg is just under 1/3 of a gram so hardly any cbd in it,if you turned an oz of cbd rich weed into oil you will get approx 3000mg that equals 3gram per oz of weed,if you need anymore info let me know.
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    Currently growing a stress killer cbd. She should be flowering any day now so I'll def revisit and revive this thread again in a couple months time. After the stress killer I'll order new seeds and rethink the strain/percentages.

    Thanks for the info and advice. Finally got my head around how to measure what you've made to a degree. Hard to know the right dosage to give a dog as they can't tell u how they feel lol. Atm I give her about 12mg a day but it seems so little. Looking forward to having my own sustainable supply as like you said, it's not cheap to buy. Plus my wife loves it since she managed to shrink and vanish a wart with the stuff lol. He was sooooo happy about that that she complained about me only growing 2 plants at a time even though that was my compromise for her to allow me my hobby lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benson123 View Post
    right mate 300mg is just under 1/3 of a gram so hardly any cbd in it,if you turned an oz of cbd rich weed into oil you will get approx 3000mg that equals 3gram per oz of weed,if you need anymore info let me know.
    Hi guys following your post great info I'm bit confused about how many grams of bud to ml of oil you get

    So let's assume I use 28grams of bud
    How much oil could I expect to harvest

    Thinking of using 98 percent proof alcohol
    To wash oil from bud
    Then evaporating the alcohol to leave the oil

    I don't want to use too little bud as its a long process to end up with just a drip of oil in the pan to try and retrieve such a small amount is hard work


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    Quote Originally Posted by Potkettle View Post
    Hi guys following your post great info I'm bit confused about how many grams of bud to ml of oil you get

    So let's assume I use 28grams of bud
    How much oil could I expect to harvest

    Thinking of using 98 percent proof alcohol
    To wash oil from bud
    Then evaporating the alcohol to leave the oil

    I don't want to use too little bud as its a long process to end up with just a drip of oil in the pan to try and retrieve such a small amount is hard work


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    if it’s good bud then you should expect 4g/mls of oil from an Oz of bud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benson123 View Post
    if it’s good bud then you should expect 4g/mls of oil from an Oz of bud.
    Great thats wot I was hoping thanks for quick reply
    My next question is
    Looking on Queen seeds and looking at growing a
    high cbd-low thc
    Strain

    The only info it tell u is hight/med or cbd
    No percentage
    How do I find out the strength of cbd oil

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    I read you can expect about 13 percent off your dry weight so for an oz that works out to 3.64g (3640mg) of oil. Currently buying 500mg in 15ml bottles of coconut oil so I should be able to get 6 or 7 bottles per oz i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkadin View Post
    I read you can expect about 13 percent off your dry weight so for an oz that works out to 3.64g (3640mg) of oil. Currently buying 500mg in 15ml bottles of coconut oil so I should be able to get 6 or 7 bottles per oz i think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potkettle View Post
    Great thats wot I was hoping thanks for quick reply
    My next question is
    Looking on Queen seeds and looking at growing a
    high cbd-low thc
    Strain
    We have had great experience with Purple Orange from Dinafem.

    Seedsman's CBD Cream & Cheese seems to be at a very high percentage and so is Garden of Green's Ed Rosenthal Super Critical Bud.

    Have a look in their section for grow diaries. I think it was CityDweller who had a humongous Cream & Cheese plant.

    Seedsman's CBD Sweet & Sour Widow which is a regular. So potentially you can have your own seeds in a generation and pretty much be self sufficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentina View Post
    So their formulation has 300 mg CBD in 30 ml...

    3 gram of 10% bud in 30 ml oil.

    28 grams of 10% bud gives 280 ml oil if everything is perfect.

    How do you plan on getting the CBD into the oil?

    You know how I do mine, right? Bud plus coconut oil in a milk pan over the hob on the lowest setting, for 45-60 mins until the bubbles (the decarb) slow down. Strain with tea strainer then bottle up.
    Just about to harvest a solomatic cbd plant. Expecting a few oz off her and have coconut oil on standby. So glad I have your calculations to refer back to. Should have double the cbd % of the previous stress killer cbd so just need to double attach the figures

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    Answered a lot of questions i had, ty all

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