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    Definitely think youre onto something there. An overfed organic grow would taste off in my opinion.



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    Quote Originally Posted by British green View Post
    How do you flush a twenty acre field in which we are growing organic potatoes.
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    Do you flush a apple tree or just eat the fruit when it's ripe
    Watering with just plain water AND withholding feed on the run up to harvest would classify as a "flush", right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentina View Post
    Watering with just plain water AND withholding feed on the run up to harvest would classify as a "flush", right?
    Well I flush my plants from start to finish then and god is constantly flushing my Apple tree


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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentina View Post
    Watering with just plain water AND withholding feed on the run up to harvest would classify as a "flush", right?
    The distinction between organic growing and growing with living soil needs to be made.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sourshoes View Post
    The distinction between organic growing and growing with living soil needs to be made.


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    No need to flush in organics man . Do farmers flush their tomoatos and lettuce ? Nope



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    Depends on your plant stages (veg or flowering); nutrient lockout - overfeeding plants or improper pH levels - this results in a build-up of nutes in the soild where plants cannot access them, a flush is required here; finally you should do a flush before harvest.

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    Well today I've done a little testing
    I've been growing in organic batmix, using organic biobizz bottles, no mineral salts at all.
    As I've come from previous Coco, hydro and regular soil grows in the past, the concept of not flushing in organics, although it makes perfect scientific sense, still frightened me. Last thing I wanted is to spend months growing my plants, to have unsmokable bud at the end of it all.
    As 2 plants are due to come down, I thought I would do a plain water only regimen for the past week. On the watering, I snipped a lower popcorn branch and dried. This bud was not fed plain water prior to snipping, so if anything should be a good example of what the weed will be like with no flushing.
    I've dried and rolled it up today.
    Nice grey ash, no sizzling, no harshness, much like my Coco grows after a weeks flushing has occured.
    From this I think flushing in an organic soil grow is now unnecessary, so the remaining plants will be fed their nutes in the final week to try get every bit of size onto them I can



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    Also this bud has been dried over 3 days, no curing obv. It still smelled pretty much like it does on the plant, fruity. Tasted nice too, so a proper dry and cure will no doubt improve the quality further

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    Quote Originally Posted by prime View Post
    Well today I've done a little testing
    I've been growing in organic batmix, using organic biobizz bottles, no mineral salts at all.
    As I've come from previous Coco, hydro and regular soil grows in the past, the concept of not flushing in organics, although it makes perfect scientific sense, still frightened me. Last thing I wanted is to spend months growing my plants, to have unsmokable bud at the end of it all.
    As 2 plants are due to come down, I thought I would do a plain water only regimen for the past week. On the watering, I snipped a lower popcorn branch and dried. This bud was not fed plain water prior to snipping, so if anything should be a good example of what the weed will be like with no flushing.
    I've dried and rolled it up today.
    Nice grey ash, no sizzling, no harshness, much like my Coco grows after a weeks flushing has occured.
    From this I think flushing in an organic soil grow is now unnecessary, so the remaining plants will be fed their nutes in the final week to try get every bit of size onto them I can
    Not sure if you saw this post Prime - Clicky

    But according to this study ;

    It seems that flushing does not (significantly) remove any of the fundamental nutrients initially perceived to be flushing ( Nitrogen, Sulphur, Phosphorus, Potassium, Magnesium, Calcium )

    However, it is also found that using water only for the last 2 weeks has no impact on yield, thus saving money on 'fertilizer'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceCalibur View Post
    Not sure if you saw this post Prime - Clicky

    But according to this study ;

    It seems that flushing does not (significantly) remove any of the fundamental nutrients initially perceived to be flushing ( Nitrogen, Sulphur, Phosphorus, Potassium, Magnesium, Calcium )

    However, it is also found that using water only for the last 2 weeks has no impact on yield, thus saving money on 'fertilizer'.
    When I was in organics, I would just stop feeding.... if I had enough notice

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceCalibur View Post
    Not sure if you saw this post Prime - Clicky

    But according to this study ;

    It seems that flushing does not (significantly) remove any of the fundamental nutrients initially perceived to be flushing ( Nitrogen, Sulphur, Phosphorus, Potassium, Magnesium, Calcium )

    However, it is also found that using water only for the last 2 weeks has no impact on yield, thus saving money on 'fertilizer'.
    That's great mate, thanks

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    Just fuck bottled nutes off all together works great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaz View Post
    Just fuck bottled nutes off all together works great
    That's the eventual plan Gaz. When the loft groom is up and running, my intention is to have two 3 ft beds, re amending after each harvest.
    I've seen a new ecothrive product called life cycle which looks interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by prime View Post
    That's the eventual plan Gaz. When the loft groom is up and running, my intention is to have two 3 ft beds, re amending after each harvest.
    I've seen a new ecothrive product called life cycle which looks interesting
    Awesome man, yeah I'm living soil mate but in individual beds so I do have to break up the beds every 3rd run but its no bother at all really.

    Lol you end up brewing teas so ya feel like ya doing something

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    Quote Originally Posted by prime View Post
    That's great mate, thanks
    You're more than welcome Prime

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaz View Post
    Awesome man, yeah I'm living soil mate but in individual beds so I do have to break up the beds every 3rd run but its no bother at all really.

    Lol you end up brewing teas so ya feel like ya doing something
    I've been half bubbling teas as it happens. Using the recharge powder, fish mix and algamic. Don't know what, if any difference it has made from using it freshly made tbh, but it's worth a go. I was using the hydrotops bactivator before getting the recharge off amazon.

    So when you harvest, how much of the root ball do you remove?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prime View Post
    I've been half bubbling teas as it happens. Using the recharge powder, fish mix and algamic. Don't know what, if any difference it has made from using it freshly made tbh, but it's worth a go. I was using the hydrotops bactivator before getting the recharge off amazon.

    So when you harvest, how much of the root ball do you remove?
    None of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceCalibur View Post
    You're more than welcome Prime
    I had a read of the paper. Quite interesting, feel sorry for the poor bastard though. All that work, all the analyses and statistics for him to be told he has fucked up and the control and mild stress protocols were the same, so most of his data is invalid, in regards to comparing and contrasting them. When I did my dissertation, I think I'd have literally murdered if that happened to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by prime View Post
    I had a read of the paper. Quite interesting, feel sorry for the poor bastard though. All that work, all the analyses and statistics for him to be told he has fucked up and the control and mild stress protocols were the same, so most of his data is invalid, in regards to comparing and contrasting them. When I did my dissertation, I think I'd have literally murdered if that happened to me
    Fucking ouch!!!!!

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