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[British green]

Right. Patch that idea then lol. N how are you supposed to know where cables n pipes are behind walls?
A was just hoping up in the corners n al be fine

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Generally speaking pipes and cables are ran vertically from the point the come out of the wall . So if you see a plug socket the cable is either running vertically up from there and into your ceiling or running vertically down into the floor and similarly with pipe work .
Sometimes cables can be run horizontally for ring mains etc etc.
So for rule of thumb don't drill vertically above or below a plug socket or horizontally left or right of the plug socket.
You can buy for a reasonable price a cable/pipe and stud finder

Like most things in life you buy really cheap you'll probably buy twice. I have a Bosch one cost around 40 notes and it works really well.
AND can probably clear this up a little better than myself


in a green and pleasant land

[Ironman]

Generally speaking pipes and cables are ran vertically from the point the come out of the wall . So if you see a plug socket the cable is either running vertically up from there and into your ceiling or running vertically down into the floor and similarly with pipe work .
Sometimes cables can be run horizontally for ring mains etc etc.
So for rule of thumb don't drill vertically above or below a plug socket or horizontally left or right of the plug socket.
You can buy for a reasonable price a cable/pipe and stud finder

Like most things in life you buy really cheap you'll probably buy twice. I have a Bosch one cost around 40 notes and it works really well.
AND can probably clear this up a little better than myself


in a green and pleasant land

I use a lidl finder. Cost £16 I think. Some of these new build houses throw the rule book out the window pmsl. I was fitting shelves in a built in cupboard last week and the heating pipes ran diagonally across the back wall and the wiring was set vertically crossing them in the middle of the wall ffs.

I even check lintels before fitting curtain tracks these days. Nothing surprises me amymore. I've had central heating pipes placed inside an RSJ before now, fucking lunatic builders lol.

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[AND]

Generally speaking pipes and cables are ran vertically from the point the come out of the wall . So if you see a plug socket the cable is either running vertically up from there and into your ceiling or running vertically down into the floor and similarly with pipe work .
Sometimes cables can be run horizontally for ring mains etc etc.
So for rule of thumb don't drill vertically above or below a plug socket or horizontally left or right of the plug socket.
You can buy for a reasonable price a cable/pipe and stud finder

Like most things in life you buy really cheap you'll probably buy twice. I have a Bosch one cost around 40 notes and it works really well.
AND can probably clear this up a little better than myself


in a green and pleasant land

Generally speaking

I've had copper pipes at 45° angles, coils of plastic pipe pushed into the cavities, hose pipe & jubilee clips where couplers should be...cables 'just about' plastered/fillered over with no mechanical protection at all...stretched cables running diagonally across studs

A detector is a good start...they can sometimes give false indications though depending on depth of pipework/cabling and I would avoid the cheap ones like the plague...I spent £300 on a Bosch D-tect 120 and even that tells lies sometimes...metal stud walls are a pain in the arse as are plastic pipes

RASTA, any chance of some pics mate...feel free to PM them if you don't want in the forum

I know I've said I'm ok to travel but Glesga...bit of a trek

[AND]

I use a lidl finder. Cost £16 I think. Some of these new build houses throw the rule book out the window pmsl. I was fitting shelves in a built in cupboard last week and the heating pipes ran diagonally across the back wall and the wiring was set vertically crossing them in the middle of the wall ffs.

I even check lintels before fitting curtain tracks these days. Nothing surprises me amymore. I've had central heating pipes placed inside an RSJ before now, fucking lunatic builders lol.

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I feel your pain mate...amount of times I've heard 'I am professional builder from Romania, I very good' which translates as 'I will fuck up your home and charge you lots'

I have soooo many pics of so called 'professional installations' from Eastern European builders

[RASTA]

Generally speaking

I've had copper pipes at 45° angles, coils of plastic pipe pushed into the cavities, hose pipe & jubilee clips where couplers should be...cables 'just about' plastered/fillered over with no mechanical protection at all...stretched cables running diagonally across studs

A detector is a good start...they can sometimes give false indications though depending on depth of pipework/cabling and I would avoid the cheap ones like the plague...I spent £300 on a Bosch D-tect 120 and even that tells lies sometimes...metal stud walls are a pain in the arse as are plastic pipes

RASTA, any chance of some pics mate...feel free to PM them if you don't want in the forum

I know I've said I'm ok to travel but Glesga...bit of a trek

Glesga aint that far from England m8. Only a few centimetres on a map lol.
Al send you a pm in a minute AND.

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[AND]

Glesga aint that far from England m8. Only a few centimetres on a map lol.
Al send you a pm in a minute AND.

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It was the last 3 times I went mate...310 miles from me and my van only does 65

[British green]

Generally speaking

I've had copper pipes at 45° angles, coils of plastic pipe pushed into the cavities, hose pipe & jubilee clips where couplers should be...cables 'just about' plastered/fillered over with no mechanical protection at all...stretched cables running diagonally across studs

A detector is a good start...they can sometimes give false indications though depending on depth of pipework/cabling and I would avoid the cheap ones like the plague...I spent £300 on a Bosch D-tect 120 and even that tells lies sometimes...metal stud walls are a pain in the arse as are plastic pipes

RASTA, any chance of some pics mate...feel free to PM them if you don't want in the forum

I know I've said I'm ok to travel but Glesga...bit of a trek

I think we all would have had a few horrific stories to tell about dodgy builds and builders hence the reason I said a stud finder and a AND is needed.
My industry has its fair share of horrific engineers who know absolutely nothing about the job it doesn't help that there's no apprenticeships/ official training and it's not even a recognised trade
But would any of you try to hang 300kilos or more on four two inch screws and four brown plugs to a plasterboard ceiling and not even screw into the joists?? Well that's what the polish builders did


in a green and pleasant land

[AND]

I think we all would have had a few horrific stories to tell about dodgy builds and builders hence the reason I said a stud finder and a AND is needed.
My industry has its fair share of horrific engineers who know absolutely nothing about the job it doesn't help that there's no apprenticeships/ official training and it's not even a recognised trade
But would any of you try to hang 300kilos or more on four two inch screws and four brown plugs to a plasterboard ceiling and not even screw into the joists?? Well that's what the polish builders did


in a green and pleasant land

2x10 screws & brown plugs, lol...the industry standard

Not met many Polish builders...lots of Sparks though...37 50w halogen GU10's on 50v bellwire...11Kw shower on 4mm cable which melted first time customer used it...12 2 gang sockets in an office with no earth at all...

Most recent...5 Showers...5 Electric ovens...5 Electric hobs...20 2 gang sockets & 15 lights in a HMO...Everything was working fine until all flats were filled and then problems started...main fuse kept blowing around 5-6pm and the Polish sparks had no idea why but kept replacing it with 6mm cable wrapped around the carrier...they tried for 2 days to sort it out, must have gone through 20m of cable 'fuse' and then ran off

So many faults from innadequate meter tails...to the main one...who knew you cannot pull more than 100A through a 60A fuse and at 5-6pm when everyone has finished work...having a shower...cooking tea etc. this is exactly what is happening 105A measured...

[LynBarrera]

The way to locate decent proficient workers is your matter of the hour Sad. .How the hell can I begin looking for legit workers alternatively of those damn cowboys?

[lipnobody]

The way to locate decent proficient workers is your matter of the hour Sad. .How the hell can I begin looking for legit workers alternatively of those damn cowboys?

we just ask AND !