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    Have a look at one of my diaries.

    Top feed each plant every two hours. The reservoir is aerated with an air stone. The waste is automatically collected and gets pumped out of the tent.

    Easier, as you control the reservoir. No interaction with the roots.

    Not as effective but more simple if not more expensive on the nutes. Not an issue as I average 10 zips an auto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoodwinked View Post
    Whats that lol ?...I didn't think I could make it any simpler really than stickin them in pots n waterin them ?
    Have a look at one of my diaries.

    Top feed each plant every two hours. The reservoir is aerated with an air stone. The waste is automatically collected and gets pumped out of the tent.

    Easier, as you control the reservoir. No interaction with the roots.

    Not as effective but more simple if not more expensive on the nutes. Not an issue as I average 10 zips an auto.

    Ask away :-)

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    Bruv im confused have you got multiple grows? Or they were all NFT and now you have burried some in coco?

    Personally mate i'd do what another user said and just go the coco route.

    The roots on the above pics do not look great but saveable. I see very little root hairs (unless its my eyes) So just confirm, are there any bugs flying around in your grow room?

    Another factor on a recirculating system like yours is - temp of the water/nutes. 18c is the sweat spot


    nft 9am 58ph 760 ppms…….12pm 59ph 754ppms......…….8pm 56ph 813ppms So.....at 8pm the ph went down and the ppm went up from the original readings. Hhhhmmm are your tools calibrated? Keep an eye on it and if its doing that more often then that looks like an over loaded plant (how i dunno as you have been feeding them low doses, unless you threw a big feed in at some point)
    9am 6ph 682ppms......12pm 6ph 664ppms...…..8pm 61ph 710ppms


    To be honest if this keeps rolling on like this i'd be inclined to pot them all in coco and water to waste. Solves a lot of ball ache and fucking around tbh, coco growing is very easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper114 View Post
    Have a look at one of my diaries.

    Top feed each plant every two hours. The reservoir is aerated with an air stone. The waste is automatically collected and gets pumped out of the tent.

    Easier, as you control the reservoir. No interaction with the roots.

    Not as effective but more simple if not more expensive on the nutes. Not an issue as I average 10 zips an auto.

    Ask away :-)
    I will do mate just sounds like something else id have to get bits n bobs for but will have a looksie ...I don't normally have any interactions with the roots in nft just had to this time to see what was goin in in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmobyToker#1 View Post
    Bruv im confused have you got multiple grows? Or they were all NFT and now you have burried some in coco?

    Personally mate i'd do what another user said and just go the coco route.

    The roots on the above pics do not look great but saveable. I see very little root hairs (unless its my eyes) So just confirm, are there any bugs flying around in your grow room?

    Another factor on a recirculating system like yours is - temp of the water/nutes. 18c is the sweat spot


    nft 9am 58ph 760 ppms…….12pm 59ph 754ppms......…….8pm 56ph 813ppms So.....at 8pm the ph went down and the ppm went up from the original readings. Hhhhmmm are your tools calibrated? Keep an eye on it and if its doing that more often then that looks like an over loaded plant (how i dunno as you have been feeding them low doses, unless you threw a big feed in at some point)
    9am 6ph 682ppms......12pm 6ph 664ppms...…..8pm 61ph 710ppms


    To be honest if this keeps rolling on like this i'd be inclined to pot them all in coco and water to waste. Solves a lot of ball ache and fucking around tbh, coco growing is very easy.
    Yes mate I had 2 nft tubs goin with 3 in each but took 3 out an potted 2 up in them orangy pots...the other was the sickest looking and ive left that outside but then I just had enough the other day of havin shit ere there n everywhere so ive cut that to ribbons an everythin else that was in me green house and emptied it ….
    I had some seeds months back that went like this so I did stuck them in the garden an left them to it but they all perked up ...an with losing a few I brought the best 2 from the garden back in as im not sure if any of these are worth me keep messin with like proper doin me nut in they are now but the ones I brought in..ones in the waterfarm the others in the coco ...I no you said don't take cuttins from them if there bad but they don't look to bad …
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    if six of these root I will be happy ..aslon as there not goin be infected ...do you think they will be ?
    anyhow thats whats left of what was outside lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmobyToker#1 View Post
    Bruv im confused have you got multiple grows? Or they were all NFT and now you have burried some in coco?

    Personally mate i'd do what another user said and just go the coco route.

    The roots on the above pics do not look great but saveable. I see very little root hairs (unless its my eyes) So just confirm, are there any bugs flying around in your grow room?

    Another factor on a recirculating system like yours is - temp of the water/nutes. 18c is the sweat spot


    nft 9am 58ph 760 ppms…….12pm 59ph 754ppms......…….8pm 56ph 813ppms So.....at 8pm the ph went down and the ppm went up from the original readings. Hhhhmmm are your tools calibrated? Keep an eye on it and if its doing that more often then that looks like an over loaded plant (how i dunno as you have been feeding them low doses, unless you threw a big feed in at some point)
    9am 6ph 682ppms......12pm 6ph 664ppms...…..8pm 61ph 710ppms


    To be honest if this keeps rolling on like this i'd be inclined to pot them all in coco and water to waste. Solves a lot of ball ache and fucking around tbh, coco growing is very easy.
    yes the roots don't look good atall do they ….but the ones that were white I think I took off when I was givin them a wash ..cus I litrally give them a bath an rubbed them down n stuff I thought sod it they cant get any worse eh lol

    Now bugs in the grow room …..I have seen the odd fruit fly or whatever there called but shouldn't the hydrogen peroxcide kill those buggers if there in the soil ?...
    ya no what im goin do a bug hunt now n see if out flies out of the coco ……

    shouldn't be anything in the coco I cooked it in oven for a bit then poured boilin water over it should be pretty sterile like
    but im goin look

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoodwinked View Post
    yes the roots don't look good atall do they ….but the ones that were white I think I took off when I was givin them a wash ..cus I litrally give them a bath an rubbed them down n stuff I thought sod it they cant get any worse eh lol

    Now bugs in the grow room …..I have seen the odd fruit fly or whatever there called but shouldn't the hydrogen peroxcide kill those buggers if there in the soil ?...
    ya no what im goin do a bug hunt now n see if out flies out of the coco ……

    shouldn't be anything in the coco I cooked it in oven for a bit then poured boilin water over it should be pretty sterile like
    but im goin look
    and yes see thats what I read in that chart that ec rising an ph static chart thing...when I looked at that its basically saying ive got nutrients leakin out the plants n back into me res isn't it ...meanin lower the ec …….an like ya say ive had nothing but low ec ive not really gone above the 500ppms mark as ive said before so …….im stumped with them

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    Um ok now my alarm bells are off big time????/ coco outside? brought back in???? no please dont tell me you have intro'd outdoor plants to indoor?

    If so start again, scrub the lot down, bleech fuck outta everything and get you some canna coco professional. No need to do fuck all except plant in that.

    gotta go collect my weekend goodies, so ill chat later. not sounding great bruva i'll be honest

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    I cant really see anything flying about or crawling around on anything ..theres a few on me sticky traps things though
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    but sayin that ive not got me viofocals on so I need find where the kids have put them then have another look when I can actually see close up lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmobyToker#1 View Post
    Um ok now my alarm bells are off big time????/ coco outside? brought back in???? no please dont tell me you have intro'd outdoor plants to indoor?

    If so start again, scrub the lot down, bleech fuck outta everything and get you some canna coco professional. No need to do fuck all except plant in that.

    gotta go collect my weekend goodies, so ill chat later. not sounding great bruva i'll be honest
    I brought the plants back in but ive give them a proper good blasting with the shower an stuff and no the coco is new them cheap bricks I had some still layin about so ive cooked them n stuff rinsed them through with hydrogen peroxcide so there shouldn't be anything lingering around in the root ball that was there like ...I need find me other glasses haha

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    Jeezus Hoodwinked it gets worse....."I need find where the kids have put them then have another look when I can actually see close up lol"

    i hope thats the glasses and not the plants lol...

    Ok fuck that brick shit off and buy cann coco professional, i get it for a tenner a bag from my hydro shop. For 4 plants in 20 ltr pots you will need around 2-3 bags.

    Get them in that and start off feeding with a lowish ppm to start at 5.8 ph

    Tbh i think this is the best way to get them going again.

    I wish i could help you more but its hard from a distance. But my best idea is to pot them up in canna coco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmobyToker#1 View Post
    Jeezus Hoodwinked it gets worse....."I need find where the kids have put them then have another look when I can actually see close up lol"

    i hope thats the glasses and not the plants lol...

    Ok fuck that brick shit off and buy cann coco professional, i get it for a tenner a bag from my hydro shop. For 4 plants in 20 ltr pots you will need around 2-3 bags.

    Get them in that and start off feeding with a lowish ppm to start at 5.8 ph

    Tbh i think this is the best way to get them going again.

    I wish i could help you more but its hard from a distance. But my best idea is to pot them up in canna coco.
    Haha mate yes im on about the plants
    Things in the nft are looking pretty grim tbh im just about to inspect things and take a few snaps ,,,tempted take the nft ones out for now an sod them off there just ugly poorly unsightly things now im on the give up stage with those 3 ...but were due a downpour so im tempted stick them outside an just see what the rain dose to them ...it worked on the last ones .

    if I find this coco easy I will get the proper canna coco stuff like at the moment I don't want disturb the ones in the pot its the healthiest one ive got lol...and this is one that was similar to the ones in nft that I stuck outside months ago and it come back around so I just want it to root into the tub abit an then I wanna try an flower it ….
    ive got those cuttings that will hopefully root an im going to nft them if there good to go like in a few wks
    so I will be wanting to tubs/tanks ..been fightin with these far to long now an their just not recovering ..not inside anyhow lol

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    im tryin work out if I should up the nutrients or lessen them here ...so

    nft was 59ph 286ppms ...59ph 315ppms …..58 323ppms …..the odd thing is this is just tap water and some silver bullet which is ment be neutral so its just basically tap water ...so leeching plants means raise my nutrients right ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoodwinked View Post
    im tryin work out if I should up the nutrients or lessen them here ...so

    nft was 59ph 286ppms ...59ph 315ppms …..58 323ppms …..the odd thing is this is just tap water and some silver bullet which is ment be neutral so its just basically tap water ...so leeching plants means raise my nutrients right ?
    Sorry mate i dont understand....Are you saying the ppm reading are going up but ph staying static. Hm sounds like the nutrients are coming back out the plant and into the root zone. Fuck knows why? considering the low feeds you've done.

    I didnt mean the one youve put in coco i mean the others, fuck the nft off mate, use coco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmobyToker#1 View Post
    Sorry mate i dont understand....Are you saying the ppm reading are going up but ph staying static. Hm sounds like the nutrients are coming back out the plant and into the root zone. Fuck knows why? considering the low feeds you've done.

    I didnt mean the one youve put in coco i mean the others, fuck the nft off mate, use coco.
    Hi smobey
    yes the ppms were going up but there wasn't any nutrients actually in the water just the stuff that was out the tab as my ppms are about 268 strait from the tao ..an it just kept rising ...like ya say its asif the plants are putting nutrients back in the water yet there wasn't hardly any in them

    But you will be pleased to hear ive pulled the buggers an I feel so much more less stressful lol

    I basically had a complete swap over ive changed me tents and gone baack to me normal one.....it was asif I jinxed meself when I put the bigger one up thinkin I, goin need the room I remember thinkin "things better not go tits up now" and thats exactly whats happened lol

    So anyway ive got rid of the girls in the nft there just outside in a pot of soil im probably just going chop them up though an get rid when ive got time deal with them but inside ...the big one in the 22 litre coco is looking ok and the quafarm one seems ok ..few issues somewhere but I think thats due to the way its been but I will take some photos later an get them on so ppl can inspect them abit

    also ive swapped me lights over ive got a 250 metal halide in there and then something ive had a yr nearly now an never used its one of these
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    not sure if its any good or not its ment be equal to 1500 watts or sumot for the electric of 300 ..or something like that lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoodwinked View Post
    Hi smobey
    yes the ppms were going up but there wasn't any nutrients actually in the water just the stuff that was out the tab as my ppms are about 268 strait from the tao ..an it just kept rising ...like ya say its asif the plants are putting nutrients back in the water yet there wasn't hardly any in them

    But you will be pleased to hear ive pulled the buggers an I feel so much more less stressful lol

    I basically had a complete swap over ive changed me tents and gone baack to me normal one.....it was asif I jinxed meself when I put the bigger one up thinkin I, goin need the room I remember thinkin "things better not go tits up now" and thats exactly whats happened lol

    So anyway ive got rid of the girls in the nft there just outside in a pot of soil im probably just going chop them up though an get rid when ive got time deal with them but inside ...the big one in the 22 litre coco is looking ok and the quafarm one seems ok ..few issues somewhere but I think thats due to the way its been but I will take some photos later an get them on so ppl can inspect them abit

    also ive swapped me lights over ive got a 250 metal halide in there and then something ive had a yr nearly now an never used its one of these
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    not sure if its any good or not its ment be equal to 1500 watts or sumot for the electric of 300 ..or something like that lol
    Hello mate, ok what you say about using just plain water (no feed) and putting that in then the nutes will kinda reverse osmosis type effect will occur. This is common in over ferted plants, the mystery is yours were not over fed imo.

    Ok so moving on, you have an aquafarm on the go with how many plants? what age? what are they. Then you have one in coco? Tbh that sounds like ball ache, nutes for coco nutes for hydro. na bugger that id fuck it up.

    Next time round lad, do yourself a favour and go the coco route, you get hydro like results but kinda like a soil grow in as much as watering n stuff.


    Regards the LED i have no clue mate, im oldskool and like burning reassuringly expensive lights with good penetration. I have heard good things about LED but whether the tech is on a par with hids i have no clue. Summat to do with diodes and their limitations. God knows though matey. If you got a hid lamp fire that up. Ask some one who does LED what is the best way to use it etc. all the best mate

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