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    Default Has my TLO soil run out of nutes?

    Soil grow.
    French Macaron (Gelato 33 x French Cookies).
    Photoperiod.
    37 Days.
    20 Litre pot.
    Not repotted, potting soil in centre of pot.
    Soil type is totally liveing organic soil.
    No nutrients used, just plain tap water.
    Temps around 30C.
    Humidity 35%-45%.
    Under veg light, 400W MH.
    18/6 Lighting.

    She's grew well for the first 30 days then she started wilting and getting paler from the bottom up.
    Judging by the wilting i thought i'd over-watered her so i didn't water her for a couple of days longer than usual and made sure the pot was drying out a bit.
    But then i notice she was getting paler from the bottom.

    This is a TLO soil bought from indoor organics, i haven't used mulch or worms, do i need to do that in order to ensure prolonged nute levels in the soil, because she looks deficient in N as well as looking under or over-watered (which she isn't).

    Thanks for any help.
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    Pics won't load for me so can't see, but 30 degree Temps can cause lockout as the plant tries to take up more water than needed. Which can cause either a lock out or a toxicity problem.

    Best to wait for some one more seasoned than myself though. @waira is the man to ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay_GY View Post
    Pics won't load for me so can't see, but 30 degree Temps can cause lockout as the plant tries to take up more water than needed. Which can cause either a lock out or a toxicity problem.

    Best to wait for some one more seasoned than myself though. @waira is the man to ask.

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    I know next to nothing about living soil but from what you describe as ''getting paler from the bottom,'' she sounds hungry to me. But as above, wait till one of the living soil guys comments to advise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurdt View Post
    I know next to nothing about living soil but from what you describe as ''getting paler from the bottom,'' she sounds hungry to me. But as above, wait till one of the living soil guys comments to advise.
    Thanks Kurdt.

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    Default Day 52 of veg.

    Gave her nutes the alst couple of weeks, looking much better, though still a bit wilty.
    Looks more Sativa than Indica to me, also some leaves have 9 blades, anyone seen that before?
    Had to move the whole op from loft to shed since landlord having someone come to look at leaky roof.
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    What is in your mix please and how much of each also what is the pH of tap water and I will try to help.

    I grow and build living soil and have it down so water only grows start to finish, 3 perfect healthy plants all the way through but I've learnt a fair bit about how far these soils in small pots go.

    Why nutes?? A kelp tea would work just fine and is basically what most nutes are lol


    Edit just seen indoor organics soil. Just buy the amendments and make it your self mate. I can give you a soil recipe no drama

    Good to know the bagged soil is shit though appalling performance unless your on your second or 3rd run.
    Lol feckin awful pmsl jesus christ lol
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    Saved me wasting £210 on shit soil by the look of things just waiting for them to get back to me on what their mix is as i emailed them asking this morning... looks like il be mixing my own

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    30 degrees dont cause lockouts . Maybe if the root zone is but i doubt it .

    These are tropical plants afterall . They can handle very well near 50°C in 100% rh . As long as theres wind . It will take anything thrown at it basically . Its one tough fawkin plant .

    If its potbound in soil . That can cause problems

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    Quote Originally Posted by WF420 View Post
    Saved me wasting £210 on shit soil by the look of things just waiting for them to get back to me on what their mix is as i emailed them asking this morning... looks like il be mixing my own
    They gotta be short amending it to sell teas and kelp ect.

    How the feck do you not get a full grow out of a virgin living soil?????

    Or... Its been stored for too long??


    OP.
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    Build it, know whats in it and learn about the soil chemistry and biology then you set for life lol

    Let mother nature feed the plant shes alot better than you lol
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