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    Hi everyone.

    Atm I am running another SeedStockers BCN Critical XXL autoflower. Turning out to be a favourite.

    I can't believe it's day 70 for this one. I'm concerned that she is starting to show the exact same leaf colouring as my previous Ak420s also by SeedStockers. Im thinking this might be something to do with genetics or some kind of deficiency.

    I had the same situation with my previous grow. I'm eager to know what's causing it but I've no idea. I'm thinking that it's normal. But it can't be. I did think that the yellowing that started first was caused by light burn and then the red and purple hues followed. I just don't know.

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    Day 70

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    Day temp 27 rh 54%

    Lights off 18 rh 65%


    Feeding a litre of rain water every second day. With only 3 feeds during veg of formulex.


    Light distance is 18 inches. On full power




    Anyone had plants that do this.

    First picture is my previous Ak420... Note how the next 5 images of the BCNcritical show the same colouring.



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    She looks hungry to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by M_C View Post
    She looks hungry to me
    Fuck sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcodex View Post
    Feeding a litre of rain water every second day. With only 3 feeds during veg of formulex.
    That's not going to cut the mustard mate formulex is not strong enough for a plant that size and stage of growth. You need a decent feed such as old timers grow & bloom...Also if your using rain water your almost certainly going to need to supplement with calcium and magnesium...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bud Lightyear View Post
    That's not going to cut the mustard mate formulex is not strong enough for a plant that size and stage of growth. You need a decent feed such as old timers grow & bloom...Also if your using rain water your almost certainly going to need to supplement with calcium and magnesium...


    Regards BL
    Isn't it possible though to achieve results without the need for nutes because I really thought that was how organic weed was achieved or at least. The yield would probably be small but surely you'd harvest half decent weed.


    But does this explain the red and purple hues.?

    Taking into consideration the Ak420 on the first picture which was blootered with nutes... And I know you wouldn't rate poundland nutrients. But I used their grow bloom and pk boost throughout my last grow. Maybe that stuff helped me achieve the yield of 380 odd grams..maybe it ruined my grow.

    Im going to take yer advice either way because I can't believe I didn't bother with some sort of reputable nutrition for my plants. I have grow bloom n pk boost but I decided not to use it because I wanted to do everything different from my previous grow which gave me shit weed.

    Maybe the poundland nutes did nothing. And that's why they both look similar.

    Oh and would you say that tap water would be more suited than rain.?

    I appreciate the replies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcodex View Post
    Isn't it possible though to achieve results without the need for nutes because I really thought that was how organic weed was achieved or at least. The yield would probably be small but surely you'd harvest half decent weed.


    But does this explain the red and purple hues.?

    Taking into consideration the Ak420 on the first picture which was blootered with nutes... And I know you wouldn't rate poundland nutrients. But I used their grow bloom and pk boost throughout my last grow. Maybe that stuff helped me achieve the yield of 380 odd grams..maybe it ruined my grow.

    Im going to take yer advice either way because I can't believe I didn't bother with some sort of reputable nutrition for my plants. I have grow bloom n pk boost but I decided not to use it because I wanted to do everything different from my previous grow which gave me shit weed.

    Maybe the poundland nutes did nothing. And that's why they both look similar.

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    7 litres of verve compost will not have enough NPK and micro elements to get a plant to the finish line without some issues in my opinion, Plus it won't actually be 7 litres when you take the perlite into account...As for poundland nutes I have no idea if they are upto the job or not...I only comment or advice on stuff that i've used personally and I know 100% worthy of endorsement...


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    plant is now missing nitrogen in a serious way during mid/late flower and your girls are now lacking chlorophyll,



    the use of organic fertilizers is still Organic since they aren't chemical/salt based that damage the soil and the microbes

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    Thanks for the replies.

    I really thought that the lack of nitrogen at this stage wouldn't be important because the plant is coming to its end and if anything she might be lacking in Potassium and phosphorus.

    And I thought a nitrogen deficiency started from below and worked its way up.

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    that yellowing is also low down on your plants going by the pictures you posted above


    would you say that girl is yellow at the bottom also?


    there's a leaf in the middle/bottom of this picture that is a clear sign they are missing nitrogen,


    nitrogen is important from start of vegetation until middle/late bloom/flower
    Potassium and phosphorus are more about the buds/weight - leaves/roots/trunks all heavily rely on Nitrogen

    that's why most feed nitrogen rich until the stretch has completely stopped at week 2-6 of flowering,

    growing is all a learning curve, it will still smoke great so i wouldn't sweat it
    i would however get some additional organic food for your next growing cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcodex View Post
    Isn't it possible though to achieve results without the need for nutes because I really thought that was how organic weed was achieved or at least. The yield would probably be small but surely you'd harvest half decent weed.


    But does this explain the red and purple hues.?

    Taking into consideration the Ak420 on the first picture which was blootered with nutes... And I know you wouldn't rate poundland nutrients. But I used their grow bloom and pk boost throughout my last grow. Maybe that stuff helped me achieve the yield of 380 odd grams..maybe it ruined my grow.

    Im going to take yer advice either way because I can't believe I didn't bother with some sort of reputable nutrition for my plants. I have grow bloom n pk boost but I decided not to use it because I wanted to do everything different from my previous grow which gave me shit weed.

    Maybe the poundland nutes did nothing. And that's why they both look similar.

    Oh and would you say that tap water would be more suited than rain.?

    I appreciate the replies.

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    Growing Organic is not quite that simple if you want to go water only mate. Go and do some reading about building soils and soil food web mate... That a good place to start.

    And on this one I do know what Im talking about wether Im a twat that just posts and offers advice with no experience or not. I have spent thousands of hours on soil so I bloody well know this.

    Soil food web and then building soils.

    Clacakmass coots
    Tad hussy
    Tim wilson
    Jeff Lowenfeld

    They are all helpful, kiss organics podcast would be my first stop

    FYI I grow water only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.gr33n View Post
    that yellowing is also low down on your plants going by the pictures you posted above


    would you say that girl is yellow at the bottom also?


    there's a leaf in the middle/bottom of this picture that is a clear sign they are missing nitrogen,


    nitrogen is important from start of vegetation until middle/late bloom/flower
    Potassium and phosphorus are more about the buds/weight - leaves/roots/trunks all heavily rely on Nitrogen

    that's why most feed nitrogen rich until the stretch has completely stopped at week 2-6 of flowering,

    growing is all a learning curve, it will still smoke great so i wouldn't sweat it
    i would however get some additional organic food for your next growing cycle
    Mate how close are your lights last time I had that burnt orange look on leaves I had my leds far too close...

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoobywho View Post
    Mate how close are your lights last time I had that burnt orange look on leaves I had my leds far too close...

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    At first....... 12 inches @ full power then I switched to 18 inches. Even at 18 inches I wasn't sure if I was still a bit close so I've gone to 24 inches.

    What I don't get is how both my previous Ak420 and the critical I'm running now have the same leaf symptoms. The previous grow was fed with grow, bloom and pk boost. While the BCN Critical XXL hasn't been fed. While I buy the my plants are Hungary and they lack nitrogen. And I'm grateful for the feedback..I'll be sure to get some proper nutrition. It doesn't explain how two different plants look the same when they were grown differently. The only thing that remains the same is the light and its distance.

    I also believed too that all this yellow ness was down to the plant coming to its end. I mean every other mature lady I've seen near harvest starts to turn yellow.

    Hmm I just don't know. Mayb it's time to get mentored.



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    If your getting the same troubles with and without the nutrients and the only constant being the water your collecting, might be worthwhile checking that out at some point
    Just my tuppence worth
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    Lol I post this photo far to many times but that's how ya plants end up if its left to run. I only had this when my lights were too close mate. Grew the same strain with the lights backed off and never had the issues again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoobywho View Post
    Lol I post this photo far to many times but that's how ya plants end up if its left to run. I only had this when my lights were too close mate. Grew the same strain with the lights backed off and never had the issues again.

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    Cheesus. Thanks for posting that dude.

    That's so similar to what I have, only your's looks more severe. Mental! How was the smoke on that?











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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcodex View Post
    Cheesus. Thanks for posting that dude.

    That's so similar to what I have, only your's looks more severe. Mental! How was the smoke on that?











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    Smoked ok mate but the buds were fried I was busy trying to sort what I thought was issues at the roots and that kept progressing by the time I started to look at the light it was too late lol.

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    Thanks everyone for the replies.

    I figure this one is a combination of light burn made worse by a deficiency or is it the other way round.

    Ive now set the lights so they are 24 inches above my lady in flower. Im hoping that I can leave the light at that height and hope that any furture auto's stay well away at the 18 inch minimum.

    As for nutrition and feeding...... Plant magic grow n bloom is on its way. Will be finally perfect to have some decent nutes to use. I think I've been too afraid to use them in case I give too much or too little.

    Would a nutrient feed bring her lush green colour back.?

    Hope someone can answer this..... ^^

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    Rule of thumb is any damaged leaf will stay that way mate, you check the newest growth to see if your feeding the right amount.

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