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    The pot under the clear plastic is to try and work as a propagator as it’s still yet to show but it keeping it covered on top to stop direct light(that’s Tropicana Banana) , I’m watering the outsides of the pots (to the sides of plant and roughly outside jiffy trying not to soak the jiffy pellet) to try and make the roots reach out (they’re all in a jiffy pellet), is the light to far away, I put it their so the heat and light wasn’t to intense for the seedlings, is this about right guys, (I’m not using any Nutrients at the minute just water)
    thanks for the help and support!
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  2. "A much bigger light than I have but would have thought 24" to be a good distance...."


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    Without knowing what light it is it's hard to say a distance...but it does look to far away
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    It’s a 600w light mate, how close would you recommend please, i didn’t want light to be to much for them (heat mainly) with them only been in the jiffy pellets since the 21st March and put into small pots yesterday morning? It won’t harm it will it if I drop the light now to what distance is recommended at this stage?

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    A much bigger light than I have but would have thought 24" to be a good distance....

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    MC is right on it, 24" for the next couple of weeks, then you can drop to 21" until flower, and after flower, 20" is the best distance I have found to be good. Any thing closer than 20" will bring your par over 1,000, and 900 to 1,000 is recommended, any thing higher is not good for inside plants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grower1988 View Post
    That Chart is wrong, 16" is way over 1,000 par for 600W HPS, it is 950 PAR at 21". It might be right for some bulbs, but those cheap 20 dollars blubs put out more par than the more expensive one's, so if you using A eye hory, or Genesis the chart might be right for that over price bulb.
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    I have tested the two 400W and the two 600W and the one on the right are 19.95 blubs, and the ones on the left are 60.00 dollar bulbs. Both of the cheap one's, 400W and 600W had A better ppfd map then the more expensive one's that are on the left. Don't believe all those par test you see on the net, A lot of them are BS, as I have come to find out

    Forget my 600W blub, came with kit, but is also 19.95 blub.

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    You really need to invest in a PAR meter, if you are going to do A better grow, takes A lot of the guessing out.

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    Cheers guys, and although it’s my second grow, my first grow went all tits up so still a total rookie, obviously looking as someone who doesn’t know what they need properly makes the whole thing a big mine field, I just bought what the shop recommended, looking at other grow rooms lol I feel like sending mine back to Mickey Mouse as it’s just all basic cheap starter stuff but now I could maybe start adding bits as soon as things return to normal after all this coronavirus dust has settled, but cheers guys I’ll be making notes of things NEEDED, (i.e, Par Meter etc) and shopping/looking around at the minute online, if there’s anything else I may need to help me out or make things a bit easier please just let me otherwise I’ll buying all kinds of random not needed crap, cheers again guys!

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    Moved the light guys to around 24” thanks very much to you all, and I’ll have to look at some more lights maybe a 400w but would that go straight in, I know the Edison screw side will but I mean as power as it’s a magnetic ballast so only has the setting it’s on and the shop sold me it with a 600w bulb and said it’s good to go right through but maybe if a 400w will work without blowing or causing any damage I may look for one, and for me mate it will be a BS (British Standard bulb) as I’m in the U.K. but it’s good to know the cheaper stuff works just as well if not better as you said ‘HotShot’ thanks for that, and has anyone got any ideas on the Tropicana Banana, it’s still yet to show and under a clear plastic tub to act as propagator (hopefully, I’ve sprayed inside to help humidity etc) but is they’re something I need to do or should do or is it just a waiting game and fingers crossed? Thanks again for the help and support really appreciated as I do need the help so thank you all very much!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gasher90 View Post
    Moved the light guys to around 24” thanks very much to you all, and I’ll have to look at some more lights maybe a 400w but would that go straight in, I know the Edison screw side will but I mean as power as it’s a magnetic ballast so only has the setting it’s on and the shop sold me it with a 600w bulb and said it’s good to go right through but maybe if a 400w will work without blowing or causing any damage I may look for one, and for me mate it will be a BS (British Standard bulb) as I’m in the U.K. but it’s good to know the cheaper stuff works just as well if not better as you said ‘HotShot’ thanks for that, and has anyone got any ideas on the Tropicana Banana, it’s still yet to show and under a clear plastic tub to act as propagator (hopefully, I’ve sprayed inside to help humidity etc) but is they’re something I need to do or should do or is it just a waiting game and fingers crossed? Thanks again for the help and support really appreciated as I do need the help so thank you all very much!
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    I think you will need A digital Ballast for the 400W, I don't think it will work with your type of 600 ballast you have. You can buy A 1,000W digital ballast, and run 600, 400, and 250W on it. If you think you want ever need A 1,000W one, you can just buy the 600W digital ballast, and it will work on all three bulbs. 250, 400, and 600. They don't cost A lot, and would be A good investment if you think you will stay with HPS. But on the other hand you might want to go with the HLG LED's, Lots of people swear by those. good luck and happy growing.

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    Cheers Hotshot, and yeah it’s something I’ll invest in, probably shop around for LED’s I just didn’t want to spend a load of money on either stuff I don’t need or won’t use orrrr bugger this grow up and throw the towel in, I just wanted to get through one grow before I started to spend money especially if it all goes wrong and I loose my heart in it I’ll just carry on buying which obviously I don’t want, but yeah I’ll make notes and shop around online before my next grow (I think) thanks again for the info and advice, I will take it on board and look around cheers Hotshot and other guys who’ve replied and helped me out, thanks again! I’ll

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    Guys I’m having trouble with x1 seed (Tropicana Banana, the only one I really wanted to work out and payed more for it than the other x3) the seed sunk as soon as it hit the water, it cracked and kicked its tap root out in a couple of hours, I’ve got the all in Jiffy Pellets and now in 1L it’s, I’m watering with run off on the x3 good plants but the Tropicana Banana is still in it’s shell but the root I’ve seen and is white, look brown on photo from dirt but it is white, I’ve had a clear plastic tub covering the plant to act as a propagator, have I to water the seed with run off like the others or is there something else I could try? Cheers guys happy growing!

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    Ya don't want the soil to wet if not the seed won't grow.
    I put my seeds in tissue and damp the tissue to the point its moist not dripping of water!. Then plant root down after 3-5 days and water gently to force the roots to search for water

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