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    Right okay. Yeah will pass on the super cropping. I’m guessing I can lollipop when she’s actually in flower? Just to strip them popcorn buds off underneath ?

    I appreciate all the replies. It’s proving invaluable I know there’s plenty of info online about but nothing like doing something for yourself is tbere!

    Sorry I’m not the sharpest tool in the box! At what degree angle roughly am I aiming for the main stem to be? I had it pretty horizontal against the medium but you said to bring it up so the whole plants not tied over just the top half. I thought it wasn’t to bad as it is because the stems are getting quite rigid now and probably risking snapping something with it being horizontal. Works well now as I tie down then re tie next day but I’m still not sure if it’s sending most energy to lower half either way and hope it doesn’t f**k the scrog up if I cant get to lowers high enough up ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowrollerbean View Post
    Just support the main stem mate, like the picture above, just use tie so she's not lying flat against your medium, will save you trouble later on, if your pushed for time I wouldn't advise doing any more damage to her because they need a good few days to recover from stress, so each time you lollipop or supercrop or top your adding a few days to a week onto your grow time

    Same as your diagram mate? Is there any chance of attaching a picture for reference of it on a actual plant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous103 View Post
    Same as your diagram mate? Is there any chance of attaching a picture for reference of it on a actual plant?
    I don't have one currently mate, just tie just above the cotyledons (first little leaves) and then tie to the side of the pot opposite to what you have already tied, does that make sense?

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    Yes makes sense mate so if I’m picturing it right it’d be on a kinda 90c - 180c angle ? Will that allow further growth to the lower shoots more so than now?
    Looking flip in a couple of weeks so tempted stick with what I’m doing now to avoid any/further damage to the root and root system & just tie down the top node every day, hopefully when my new Sol-digital lamp comes. I’ll see a improvement!

    So I’m using Canna Bio Vega and put in 1m P/L around 1/2 the recommended dose am I good at that ? 3 seem to love it but the other 2 don’t seem to as much don’t know if that’s nutes or training?
    Got some Bio Flores on order for when time comes!

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    Aim for your main stem to be straight and the top node bent at 90 degrees, this is why you need to anchor it while it's still little so you don't tug on the roots or have a plant that's lying down on your medium this could end up with more problems, just stand her up tie the main stem one way and the top the other way, this will allow your lower shoots to try and catch up, I've never used the vega/flores, would need a lights off pic and a good few photos of each plant mate

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    Yeah thought I’d try the Bio range of canna nutes. Not sure if most users on here are from UK like me?

    So I’m on week 4 today since potting into forever homes. Kinda regretting using HPS for veg now but that’s my fault & coronas??
    To me they look small but Im hoping & praying they go through a nice stretching phase once flipped & lowers = equal canopy.
    Not gonna rush it but aiming for 2weeks time to flip. Raised the light up to try get a bit more height/stretch.

    You should be able see how Iv been bending for the last few days & im finding it better! It’s less demanding on my babies & I don’t mind going in to re bend the top nodes every day. I make sure the bottom nodes are not shaded throughout the day at all.. As hopefully you can see! The first picture is the one that is gonna be the biggest plant. Gonna give it a few days to a week then attempt topping the lower/upper growths as they’re nearly at the point where topping is possible

    But the last picture I’m not sure if she’s stressed or I have a pest/nutes issue as you can see some leaves have holes but no signs of any pests. Just ordered some neem oil will foliar spray them to be safe. Be 4-5weeks before any buds so shouldn’t affect anything ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous103 View Post
    Yeah thought I’d try the Bio range of canna nutes. Not sure if most users on here are from UK like me?

    So I’m on week 4 today since potting into forever homes. Kinda regretting using HPS for veg now but that’s my fault & coronas??
    To me they look small but Im hoping & praying they go through a nice stretching phase once flipped & lowers = equal canopy.
    Not gonna rush it but aiming for 2weeks time to flip. Raised the light up to try get a bit more height/stretch.

    You should be able see how Iv been bending for the last few days & im finding it better! It’s less demanding on my babies & I don’t mind going in to re bend the top nodes every day. I make sure the bottom nodes are not shaded throughout the day at all.. As hopefully you can see! The first picture is the one that is gonna be the biggest plant. Gonna give it a few days to a week then attempt topping the lower/upper growths as they’re nearly at the point where topping is possible

    But the last picture I’m not sure if she’s stressed or I have a pest/nutes issue as you can see some leaves have holes but no signs of any pests. Just ordered some neem oil will foliar spray them to be safe. Be 4-5weeks before any buds so shouldn’t affect anything ?


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    Flick your lights off for a moment and take take some better pictures mate, so we can see the true colour and damage, they are about right for 4 weeks old though don't worry about that, they're focused on root growth for a good 2 week or so to begin with, I'd still say some of those need some support on the main stem, as for leaf damage, I'm swinging towards a bug problem, remember there's thousands of places for them to hide, as said lights of pic will definitely help, hopefully someone who's more experienced will pop by and assist on this too, since it could be of nutes splashing leaves, get them lights of pics up mate

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    Evening all, hope your staying well and safe
    Managed to get a lights off picture Lowrollerbean (sorry my cameras not the best pal). I cannot find any signs or see any pests in there and it looks as if it’s ate itself rather than been nibbles at by a dozen caterpillars. Also with the odd copper colour spot on fb leaves. Heading towards stress/def or toxicity read that constant bending can cause stress to! Still gonna do a neem oil foliar spray once it arrives then will foliar spray water after for a week to wash the neem away!

    So I just need to support the main stem with string right? Will tying it to the side of the pot do it?

    So.. first picture is the one I can see it on most, but while your looking the lower two shoots that are growing outwards. Would I benefit from bending that so it bounces back & grows upward near the tip rather than outward?
    Last picture : Strongest plant, count at very least 10 bud sites, with good lower leaf growth (nearly enough material to top) but also very thick and bushy. Not much lower light due to massive fan leaves. Not sure whether remove just top half fan leaves or leave and let every shoot develop first and just keep tucking them back?

    Gutting I still not had chance to make a proper LST as in starting in smaller pot bending new shoots around the edge of the pot until there is shoots all round the circumference of the large ‘final’ pot. But I’m excited to see the way these are different in flower than previous grows.

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    They're looking fine mate, doesn't look as though they need the extra support anymore, just top or bend them main tops down, don't worry they will grow back up towards the light, how long are you planning on vegging for, I can't really see the little amount of LST would have stressed them much at all mate, weekly neem just incase it is bugs though, just tuck the big fan leaves mate, personally I'd whip them off before flower and give more light to bud sites, have you topped already? Pictures aren't very clear and neither is my phone mate

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    Yeah will keep a eye on that further I get into the grow may need some support but we’ll see I’m in there 2-3times day bending
    Planning to switch to flower in between 7 & 13days. Shall I keep bending into flower and/or any other training methods? Seen as they’re fairly small. I’m interested in doing anything that will increase yield/light coverage? Attachment 383502
    Yes I have topped them all around a week ago now! Up to 75% nutes now and will continue until probably few days into flower or when Flores comes in stock. Whichever comes first lol

    Im so tempted to top the 2nd node up on the biggest which is 1st & 2nd picture I attached (side & top view). What would you do? Top? Strip lower leaves? Leave it alone? Would it do anything to increase yield.... Definitely gonna need to strip the big fan leaves once time allows, they’re not blocking lower half so I’m not overly fussed atm! Can’t remember having a plant before with that many lower and in general as many budsites, so that’s gonna be exciting!

    3rd picture : Keep finding random ‘burnt’ parts of fan leaves. Any ideas ?

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    bend em n leave em alone for a few days, faffing about every few hours aint helping them any.

    have ya read these
    https://www.thctalk.com/cannabis-for...e-L-S-T-thread ...helped me loads
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    Have to agree with lipnobody here mate, they don't need love and attention like a pet, just a daily check and bend what needs bending that's all, all looks good to me, topping more nodes is your call mate but in would wait the 2 weeks before flip if you do, all is looking well, burnt fan leaves could be and range of things, oscillating fan to close, lights to close, over feeding, if it was me and leave them alone for a week, little defoliation (depending how they look) then probably look at flipping them

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    Missed that last bit mate sorry, I currently have...1 pain in the arse candy kush (pepsi challenge) 1 choc mint og (clone) and 6 from seed 3 cream caramel and 3 purple queen, clone and seeds are around 3-4 week old....Pepsi bottle belive it or not is around 6-7 week (pain in the arse it is) Click image for larger version. 

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    That’s cool, I have bent all the tops down and will focus purely on trying to get them lower canopies level with the top. Iv guided one of very bottom sets with tie outwards to see if it will bend up toward light...

    Hoping I’ll have enough coverage of my space to use a scrog net but will see in a few weeks how it pans out. Is there anything else I can do low stress to fill my tent a bit more?
    Think I went about it the wrong way from the start but it’s all a learning curve & I enjoy getting creative so hopefully be a good smoke & yield. I’ll post some pics if anyone’s interested in how it turns out

    I like the Pepsi challenge! Is it gonna be a 6month plant ? .. Is the second picture a clone ? Or from seed? Looks like you’ll get some nice bud sites. Next time round I wanna aim for this kind of LST >> Click image for larger version. 

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    My last grow was like this mate, must of been over 50 tops but she got a good 8-9 week from seed before flip and topped, then tied all branches out, I think I need to chuck the pespsi one and call it a fail tbh, yeah second pic is the choc mint OG clone she's only going to be having 4 tops and staying in that little 6 litre ish pot, nothing really more low stress other than just giving them time here's my last one Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowrollerbean View Post
    My last grow was like this mate, must of been over 50 tops but she got a good 8-9 week from seed before flip and topped, then tied all branches out, I think I need to chuck the pespsi one and call it a fail tbh, yeah second pic is the choc mint OG clone she's only going to be having 4 tops and staying in that little 6 litre ish pot, nothing really more low stress other than just giving them time here's my last one Click image for larger version. 

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    That’s the kinda plant I wanna be working to. Credit to you. One plant grow? Don’t think i could get anything like that with mine I have going. Maybe topped to early? They’re doing ok tho just some smaller than others which isn’t ideal! Slowly getting the lowers to grow up but not 100% sure I can create that equal canopy. Can I continue doing what I’m doing into flower? To ensure I do get it
    when they stretch?
    What kinda age did you do tie the branches out? Am guessing you topped low down to be able to do that?

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    The flowering nutes are still out of stock so gonna have to keep using Bio Vega until it is! Possible I may flip at the end of this week

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    I vegged her out while I was doing my autos and then had to flip her a week or two earlier than I wanted, I just had a vision of how I wanted her to look then just kept tieing and bending till she was there, I wouldn't try that in a small pot though mate, you can tie them soon as they let you mate, just keep doing what your doing, don't over love them and just let them get on with it (it's hard I know) will have as little look at your pics now mate

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    All looks well mate, training on the first pic is exactly what I'd be aiming for, remember you can still supercrop ones that are too tall to even the canopy out, just a little pinch and bend 90 degree ish angle and your golden, ix give at least another week veg though my self mate, but then again I did run out of room on my last grow haha

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