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    Quote Originally Posted by gardro View Post
    40-50 euro cheap lasts a good 18 months + for percys. If soil is working out ok then dont bother but it transforms your water if having issues. If going coco, bonus!

    Mrs uses for ironing etc too
    Can you post any details or send me a PM mate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Herbitual View Post
    I've been on this very journey, Up...and you can still use soil.

    I would urge you to drop the organic side of things. With shop-bought soil from a bag and few, if any, amendments, and depending on your water, it's my very strong belief that it's near impossible to grow a satisfactory plant organically. I'm certainly not saying it's impossible but it is dispiriting and painful and there is a better way.

    Organicus and OT were utter toilet for me in soft water and I took a trip to the hydro shop and bought some non-organic nutrients made specifically for the water. Honestly, it was a total revelation. I'm aware that for anyone reading this (MrCannabisir will be sighing) for the umpteenth it sounds boring (it is) but cal, mag and premature yellowing issues all stopped overnight when I started using PM's non-organic nutes for soft water (they do a hard water version, too)

    Again, it may just be that I got lucky and that these nutrients sorted me out - it's not a panacea - but for a very small outlay, I'd definitely recommend Plant Magic's non-organic range for either soft or hard water.

    Here endeth the sermon and apologies to anyone reading this for the fifteenth time.
    Dispiriting and painful hits the nail right on the head. For anyone who has followed my grows, my plants should be easily recognisable. Starts yellowing up top, looks hungry and starts throwing up what looks like multiple Def's. Flush about now normally keeps the plates just about spinning until I can drag my ass over the line. Feels like my signature move at this point lol

    Are these the PM nutes your talking about? Are you bothering to PH mate? Have you noticed any difference in the taste or quality? That's always what's had me hanging on. Plants might look like shit but the finish product is top
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    Yes, mate...those products but fined tuned even further by getting the soft water version of each...+ MagneCal and Bloom Boost.

    I genuinely don't think you'll look back - I'd be more than happy to oversee yer grow using them.
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    Apologies - I can only just see the soft water label on 'em.

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    And no, never pH'd in soil ever.

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    Canna Terra range is good mineral based soil feed too.

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    Ditch the soil


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadface View Post
    Ditch the soil
    Ignore this oaf, UpTown...there's life in soil yet. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbitual View Post
    Ignore this oaf, UpTown...there's life in soil yet. ;-)
    I'll take that as a compliment lol ..hope you well herb x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbitual View Post
    I'm aware that for anyone reading this (MrCannabisir will be sighing) for the umpteenth it sounds boring (it is)
    I thought if I bought them you might stop going on about them, I'm never even gonna use em Nah man keep preachin, if you're seein better results. Hopefully be givin mine a good veg feed with em by monday. Oh and I was really sad to hear one of your lady friends passed this week, but don't worry, I'm sure you'll meet again...

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    What I should have said is it can take a life time to truly understand soil...so first question is do you have the time and patience ...soilless is a whole lot easier

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