Will my clones make it?

[CasanovaFrankenstein]

So a couple of days ago i took some clones. My procedure:

1. Misted mother plants with Clonex 2 times in ~a week. Feed them Less N for a little more than 1 week.
2. Took some small and rather fresh branches, tried to cut at ~45 degree angle with razor blade.
3. Put directly in rooting hormone (some type of white powder, generic stuff) and into wet Root Riot cubes.
4. Put my dome over it quickly after misting again with some Clonex.
5. Keep in ambient light, sometimes under my LED lighting, though never directly under. I give them some darkness from time to time, 4-6h (no specific schedule).

I guess my question is mostly about Root Riots cubes being very heavily saturated, will that be a problem (i know you can clone in pure water so...) I did try to press out some of the water today, when i realized they should be moist, not totally wet.

And i also wonder if the cuttings i took are too small and too fresh.. i guess they're perhaps 3-4". Can the cuttings be too small, is it good or bad? I did read some guide that said the stems should easily bend and be from a new/fresh branch.. but now when i looked at videos people take the cuttings from much larger and older branches, they seem to be like 2-3x times the size..

Many thanks.

[CasanovaFrankenstein]

I guess i can take new clones if above is bad.. the mothers have been under 12/12 for just 3 days, not sure if its good to stress them (though 1 cutting from ea. shouldn't be too bad i guess?)

[Jingo]

When you take cuttings you want the branch that you take from to be relatively new but also have some thickness to it because those are stored carbohydrates that the cutting is going to need to root. Then you don't want to leave a bunch of leaves on up above, I used to cut all my upper leaves back to about half I mean just cut the leaf in half. And then reduce down to two or three leaves total per cutting, you don't want the plant to be working extra hard to try and support a bunch of leaves when it doesn't have roots, but you need that green leaf up there to drive the photosynthesis that will give the roots energy to grow. It's kind of a fine line.



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[CasanovaFrankenstein]

When you take cuttings you want the branch that you take from to be relatively new but also have some thickness to it because those are stored carbohydrates that the cutting is going to need to root. Then you don't want to leave a bunch of leaves on up above, I used to cut all my upper leaves back to about half I mean just cut the leaf in half. And then reduce down to two or three leaves total per cutting, you don't want the plant to be working extra hard to try and support a bunch of leaves when it doesn't have roots, but you need that green leaf up there to drive the photosynthesis that will give the roots energy to grow. It's kind of a fine line.

Yes, i forgot to mention that i do only save the upper leaves, and i do also cut most or some leaves so they're only 50% of the size. I'm not too worried about that part.

Ok, good to know that they need the thickness.. These stems are enough to keep the clones straight, no problem.. but i would not say that they are thick.

[Blue61]

If they are standing up they should be fine. Clones can take 5 - 10 days to root. Have seen some take 2 - 3 weeks.
Strain can make a difference too.

[CasanovaFrankenstein]

Thank you, let's hope for the best then

[Krofam]

ill repost something from a couple days ago..

i use "root !t" gel and root riot cubes. in the bag they stay moist for months. if they do go dry, soak 5mins in 6.0 water.
they have everything seeds or clones need.

took cuts last week and this is what i did...

when i take clones i put them into cup of water for 5mins and then prep them by gently scrapping the length of stem thats going into the cubes. really gently with scalpel. then back into water. for 2mins
the cubes come with a pilot hole and the gell bottle has a nozzle which is the length of the stem i scrapped so now all i do is, stick nozzle into cube and squeeze as i pull it out filling the hole with plenty of gel with a bit of overflow. i then stick a clone in and trim the tips of the leaves. i usually leave on 2 nodes.
i like my clones to be small and as flexible as possible. compared to clones ive seen taken, mine are really small. this is perfect for my as i need them to take their time growing through out the flowering phase. 1 inch in cube and 2-3 above.

anyway, after they are all done, i stickem in a dome. mine came with a tray with holes that fit the cubes perfectly. has holes in the bottom so if they do go dry when clones are in there, i fill tray with water half inch high and sit they tray on it for 30secs and lift to drain. empty and stickem back under.

for the first week i keep the vent on dome closed. removing top and airing it out for 1mins everyday. mist dome, drain any water in tray and put lid back on.
every 2 days i mist the dome and clones and check if cubes are not dry.

i can open the vent half way after 1 week but making sure the dome doesnt dry too quick. stop misting clones at this point too and check if roots are taking by opening dome and leaving open for about 5-10 mins. i heck if they wilt and how long it takes them to.
if they hold well. you can put them back in with vent on dome open. mist only the dome and just make sure cubes dont dry out. clones in about 13 days total. 100% for me so far over the years with this method.

ill update on this..

after 5 days half had rooted. now 6 or 7days in and all have rooted. in the past ive had to wait from 10-14days. ill also add that this means i still have 100% success rate after hundreds of tries.
i honestly think, scrapping the stem gently really helps. i dont even cut all at an angle..lol.

as for the cube.. mine take really long to lose moisture and when they do i just soak them in tap water for a min or 2 and gently squeeze.
and as above, when they have a clone in them, if the top is dry i spray only the top on the cube with water. if it dry all they way then i dip in water for 30secs. 1cm submergerd. it sucks up what it can and 30secs is enough. if you find it hasnt absorbed to the top you can just spray the top a bit.

[Blue61]

I second that thought on scraping the stem. I think it makes a big difference.

[CasanovaFrankenstein]

Yes i did scrape the stem on a few of them.. bigger area to grow roots out of i guess and/or more area to take up the rooting hormone.

no roots yet, none that i can see at least. I took the cuttings 7-8 days ago, but i guess it can take a while..

What's a bit irritating with clones is that they seem to be able to look nice forever so there's no knowing what's going on.. I had one last year where i took a clone very late in flower (not optimal, i know). It never rooted, but it looked nice and decently healthy (very slight yellowing) until i threw it away like 2 months later (i really wanted it to root because it was an awesome mother)...

[Jingo]

If you're going to do a lot of clones you should buy yourself an easy cloner, you put those on a interval timer like run for 15 minutes and off for 15 minutes and you can root a clone in about 5 days. The plus side is it's really easy to see the roots when they grow. I don't do clones of cannabis anymore, but I can clone my wife's rose bushes and stuff like that.



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