Starting my first grow! All set up and rolling

[sourshoes]

I set the humidifier up last night and this morning with lights off the humidity was 59/60%. The lights had been off for 7 hours.

I shut the auto Mode on the fan off. I’m running the fan at all times with it on 3. Temp is around 79 degrees with lights on and drops to 65 with lights off.


I’ll check the humidity today with the lights on to see where it’s at.

Wont the extra heat from the lights raise the humidity?


I’ll get trays for the pots. I’ve just got to find some big enough for these 15 gallon pots.

Some people use hot water heater pans for large pots. Might have to get creative!

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[Rollingblunts]

One seed has sprouted out of the ground!

The other seed still hasn't popped up

I'm hoping it pops up in the next few days.

It has been a total of about 90 hours since I planted them]


I did lower the lights today. They were probably way too high up

I lowered them down to 32" from the soil

They were 56" from the soil before I lowered them.

[Rollingblunts]

Some people use hot water heater pans for large pots. Might have to get creative!

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I ordered two water heater pans from lows

I had no idea there was such a thing LOL

thanks!

[Karlito1]

I use 15lt pots and I use cat litter trays which I've spray painted white and then used cake/ kitchen grills which have to be bent a bit to fit. This means the pots are an inch above the trays so run off doesn't touch the pots. I use the fibre pots too.

[Karlito1]

If its been days then I would say, you needbto put some new seeds in, I put mine straight into a 15litre fibre pot, (soil) watered the soil very slightly, put the seeds in about 1½cm in and then used the top of a bottle with lid on to provide a humid environment. I had my lights off for the first day then put them on at a very low light after 2 days. On the 3rd day they sprouted.

[Amusjngfungus]

You should buy the Smart Controller for $50 on Amazon. It’s not the same as the T series controller. And honestly you just need to buy the S series fans and buy the seperate smart controller.
With the T series controller. In Auto mode. The fan will turn off of below the set threshold. No way around that.
With the Smart controller. You have many options. But in Auto mode. The Fan will run at whatever speed you set in Off mode. Than when the temps go above your set threshold the fans will change speed to whatever you want to set as max speed.
I have a S8 exhaust and intake running on the same controller. Fan is running at speed 3 whenever temps are low. And if they rise. It goes up to 6. Untill below threshold. Than drops back to 3.

[Farmer Geddon]

Wont the extra heat from the lights raise the humidity?

Relative humidity is a measurement of the relationship between temps and the amount of moisture in the air. If the temps go up, the relative humidity goes down. Even though there may be the same amount of moisture in the air.

My soil moisture readers were dropped off today

They are very useful for those new to soil as soil needs far less watering than new growers think. As you've been watering every day, don't be surprised if the meters say 'Don't Water' for a week or more. I'm not a mudlark but fwir, roots drink when the soil is wet and breathe when the soil is dry. There has to be a wet/dry/wet/dry cycle. Big pot of wet soil + small plant = long time to dry.

[Rollingblunts]

Thanks for the info!
Do you guys think I might be watering too much?
It has been 7 days since I planted the clover. All I did for the clover was sprinkle it all over the tops and then covered the seeds with worm castings.

I've been watering everyday even though the gauge says plenty wet.

The first two inches dry out everyday so I water enough just to cover the first 2-3" of soil and to keep the clover seeds moist and the marijuana seeds moist.

For 7 days i feel like this clover should be WAY more noticeable and a lot bigger

Its going on day 5 for the seedlings. One seedling popped up yesterday. I took a close up of it.


The other pot still isn't showing any sign of the seedling coming up.

I'm probably going to start soaking another seed

But what do you guys think ?


Is this growth rate normal? Should I stop watering for a few days?

As i raise the moisture meter towards the top 2-3" it says 'dry'
Which is why I water everyday

The humidity at night has been around 60-68% and the temp has been around 65-68 degrees

During the day the temp is around 79-81 degrees

Humidity is around 40-55%



I'd appreciate any info. I'm kinda getting nervous that i'm messing all of this up

[Rollingblunts]

[sourshoes]

Ease up on the water. You can mist the top layer to keep your clover happy but you don't want your pot soggy.

If I had a seedling in that pot I wouldn't water very often at all.

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[Rollingblunts]

Ease up on the water. You can mist the top layer to keep your clover happy but you don't want your pot soggy.

If I had a seedling in that pot I wouldn't water very often at all.

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ah. I was under the impression I needed the soil to be soaked at all times.

well....this is starting to be a failure....

one seed popped up several days ago and hasn't changed since. The other pot, the seed didn't even sprout.

Trying to decide if i should scratch the clover/marijuana seeds and start over or what I should do at this point. I do know one thing....this situation isn't working out too well.

I have no idea what has happened. The clover has been planted for 7 days now and isn't making much progress at all.

I don't know if its a humidity issue
or a water issue
or a soil issue.....
or a light issue ?

I've had the lights full blast since day one. But for the first 4 days the lights were very high up in the air. I think 50" or so..I can't remember exactly

3 days ago I lowered the lights down to 30" from the top of the soil

does anyone have any suggestions?


I have a PH meter and I'm using filtered water from a car wash water dispenser

triple filtered
ran under a UV light etc..

When I put some of the water in a cup and stick my PH meter in it, it says 7.0 at first then drops real fast to around 6.3-6.5

If i leave the meter in long enough it drops even more

[Rollingblunts]

Edit with the ph meter

It’s staying around 6.3/6.5

It hasn’t dropped anymore than that. So I’d say it’s not a water ph issue.


It could be a too much water issue and maybe I’ve drowned the clover and seedlings ?


Run down on room temps and humidity again

Day time average is about 79f
Humidity is 40-50%ish

Night time temps 65ish
Night time Humidity 60-75%ish

[sourshoes]

Start ypur next seeds in a smaller pot then put them into the big pots. I'd say it's just too wet. You want the soil moist but not soaking wet. Especially when it's a such a young plant.



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[Farmer Geddon]

does anyone have any suggestions?

There are advantages to soil but having a guaranteed easy first grow isn't one of them. Those into soil growing, house plants, flowers and veg in the garden etc. have already been through the soil learning curve and their first cannabis grow will be easy.

My suggestion is to decide where you want to end up and then plan the most reliable way of getting there. Doing it right means never running dry. As long as that happens, how it happens is personal choice. For me, less hassle during a grow beats doing work to keep their environment optimal. I'm self sufficient either way. Me first, plants second.

With photos, I plan around a base yield of 1 ounce per square foot. Which is nothing special. No forum bragging rights for 1oz psf. With 2 x 600w in an 8x4 tent, that's only 0.75 gpw but hey, it's still 32oz. 2 of those grows a years means an ounce a week for me and some left over for ladies who smile.

In practice, my yields averaged 1.15oz/1.2oz psf with very little effort. With passive hydro, you can do the same or better first grow. Coco is now the most popular medium for passive. Use a popular brand that is ready to use straight out of the bag and the same brand of coco nutes. Only use basic nutes until you've done 3 grows.

If your heart is set on being a soil grower, learn soil outside of the tent with regular plants while the coco is getting your jars full. When your stash is large enough to survive a failed grow, try soil in the tent.

[Farmer Geddon]

Double post.

[sourshoes]

You can do it. Don't give up.

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[Rollingblunts]

You can do it. Don't give up.

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I wont be giving up thats for sure


The seeds never came up.

I lowered the lights more and quit watering so much


The clover is growing a little better but still not at the speed i've seen it grow for other growers with the exact soil mix


I bought a seed starter humidity dome

Starting over and going to get the seedlings started in the humidity grow dome

Hopefully I have better results


I won't post a lot of updates until the seedlings actually sprout and start growing


I will make a new thread at that time to track progress etc..


thanks so much for all the advice everyone
I appreciate it

Trial and error. I can't be too mad. This was my first time trying this. I will keep trying until I make it happen

[Farmer Geddon]

How about doing a learning grow alongside your main grow? Gets you much more trial and error in the same time frame.

Start a few freebie seeds and see by how much you can neglect them. No humidity dome, only watered half as often as the main plants etc. If they start crowding the main plants, they've served their purpose, cull them,

[Rollingblunts]

How about doing a learning grow alongside your main grow? Gets you much more trial and error in the same time frame.

Start a few freebie seeds and see by how much you can neglect them. No humidity dome, only watered half as often as the main plants etc. If they start crowding the main plants, they've served their purpose, cull them,

That's a good idea! Thanks