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    Good idea B1unt I ran that across my mind. Small square table and belt sand a slight angle on the feet.
    I just checked online for wet vacs ice and I see a DIY store do one for £30 and it seems its had ok reviews

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    Here it is mate. Would it do the job ok? Only time I used a wet vac was hiring 1 out after the wee mans 8th birthday party lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannabug View Post
    Here it is mate. Would it do the job ok? Only time I used a wet vac was hiring 1 out after the wee mans 8th birthday party lol
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    I honestly don't know bud, I've never had experience with that particular model lol

    Reviews seems a little low, but at the end of the day you could give it a whirl if you wanted if it's easy and you don't mind returning it (in case of any issues arising)....

    I personally went for a much higher litre capacity (30 L), because I was using 20L a day on my girls, so you might wanna keep that in mind too.

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    Just checked mine and this is the one I have - Einhell TC-VC 1930S 1500 W



    Very happy with it

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    20ltrs a day
    Yesterday I done 4ltrs each with 12hrs break. 10am then 10pm but I think I'll just stick to 2ltrs a day for now its draining the run off is the killer. The old knees aren't the best lol.
    I think I'll grab that wet vac and try it mate if it's ok I'll prob roll with 4ltrs each in a 24hr stint. And if its crap I'll prob change it and treat her to a new ironing board lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceCalibur View Post
    Just checked mine and this is the one I have - Einhell TC-VC 1930S 1500 W



    Very happy with it
    Looks like r2d2's cousin lol.
    Very nice that mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannabug View Post
    20ltrs a day
    Yesterday I done 4ltrs each with 12hrs break. 10am then 10pm but I think I'll just stick to 2ltrs a day for now its draining the run off is the killer. The old knees aren't the best lol.
    I think I'll grab that wet vac and try it mate if it's ok I'll prob roll with 4ltrs each in a 24hr stint. And if its crap I'll prob change it and treat her to a new ironing board lol.
    Yeah, I mean coco is definitely more work than soil with the shifting of water on the daily that's for sure..it's one of the reasons I've had to skip it for now and go with soil again..but I know coco really does bring in the big yields and I enjoy growing in coco a lot.

    Much more control in coco..and I love how light and airy it is to grow in


    I guess we all have to grow the way that suits us personally..one way is not necessarily the best solution for everyone.

    Although I do understand what you're saying about the old knees but in 15L pots, 2L a day may not be enough..especially when they get bigger girls, but give it a whirl ..if you hit any issues, you can try to re-adjust as needed.

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    I see what you mean mate when the auqa farm was low I couldn't get the 2ltr carton filled so I used a 1ltr milk carton and when slowly poured into 1 pot nothing came out of the end. I'm getting decent run off with 2ltrs as is but yeah they get bigger they gonna get hungry'er an thirsty'er.
    I must say I'm enjoying this current grow. Reading up on tips from others then brainstorming how you can adapt it to suit your own needs. I think I'll go with what B1unt suggested and make a slanted table and let gravity do most of the work for me in the nxt run

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    Tardy but present. Looking really nice, Cannabug.
    Will be cheering from the sidelines. Good luck!

    Really liking that sloped table idea, too.

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    Stupid question: What’s an aquafarm? (Sounds like a combination of a fish tank & a field)

    I am at about 5 weeks into flower & my 5 girls have just started taking 3L each to give me 5L total run off (so 3L goes into each 16L pot, 2L stays & I get either 1L or 33.3% run off depending on which tariff you’re using).

    I am just using a 20L bucket which I’ve scratched measurement lines on. I throw an air stone & pump in it, gradually add nutes one at a time to let them mix to my target EC.

    Then I start adding ph down & keep checking & adjusting every 15 minutes or so until it’s stable, then scoop the nutes out the bucket with measuring jugs, into the watering can & party on

    Once that’s done I leave the run off to drain into my waste container, fill the bucket back up with tap water & leave it to stand for 24 hours for the next feeding. The bucket has a handle so is easy to transport & also pour out the last of the nutes.

    Half an hour later go retrieve the run off container, empty it & put it back. Nice & simple with basic kit.
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    Thanks sir DCC. Yeah the table is an idea alright and it will save the aging knees lol.
    B1unt an Aqua farm is basically a dripper system mate 1 pot fits into another and water can continuously drip through the plants medium back to res below. It's a 45ltr res but I dont fill it to the top incase I pull my back out lol.
    I try and leave it sitting close to 24hrs to get water temp up and to release any unwanted stuff. I dont bother with the airstone as yet because it's in darkness as tents zipped up and gets refilled every 3-4 days for now.
    Thanks for popping in fellas

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    I've been impressed by the growth in a matter of days
    Today's feed consisted of 15ml Ritzo. 25ml Canna A+B each EC 1.2 I know it's a bit heavy but I'm kinda challenging what the plants like. The smaller of them actually took ok to 1.1EC so I've upped it by another notch to see how they go. If they seem ok I'll ride with that and take note of the growth acceleration then drop it before flowering by a notch or 2. I want to get them hungry and greedy. Please chip in if I'm going about this correctly I read afew on here tend to pile on or ease of on feed depending on stages of growth.
    Ph 6.1 so far I've had no problems with that strength of ph although I read I should have started around 5.5 when they were smaller then adjusted as per growth. Then I'm thinking with run to waste the previous days feed would reset in the coco with today's
    I will be giving 24hrs darkness before 12/12 in the darkness period I'm going to foliar spray the underside of the plants in Epsom salts. Late night reading I stumbled upon someone stating that the underside is the most important as it absorbs into better veins in the leaves. I think
    Heres today's pics. I'm still using 2ltrs per plant and to be fair I'm still getting decent run off from all 4. Saying that its 1 tray per 2 pots so when both trays look equally with run off I'm sure individual plants uptake more. I defoliated all 4 and all have been topped once. 3 have been gently tied down and the small one was just bent over slightly. I turn each plant which can be a right cunt because they fall off the batons and into the tray when turning. Wouldn't do it in a retro shell tracksuit as I feel my jumper getting warm against the light lol.
    Anways enough of my stoned ramblings pics.
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    I'm going to see how they get on with the new feed strength and tie them down more.
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    change of plan. Then again its 4.30am and I'm stoned so it could change again lol
    Todays feed will be EC 1.0 Ph 5.6 Tomorrow EC 1.0 ph 5.8 Saturday EC 1.0 ph 6.0 Epsom salts at level teaspoon to 1ltr water spray plants in evening then Sunday at 9am Darkness until Monday 9am from then they will be on 12/12 flowering cycle
    I know that will grant me another 2 or so weeks to get these in to some shape/structure as technically they will still be kinda in veg mode. I have a red spec hps bulb although I think I shoved it in either the 400w or dual spec sleeve. Kind of a nuisance it doesn't have it stamped on the base of the bulb like 600 RS or 600 DS well anyways it'll be 600w hps either way.
    I wanted to fill the pots and have nice bushes before flower but I'm all out of ganja and with police stops currently the norm it'll be my luck to hit a checkpoint after getting some let alone forking near 3 ton on an oz It is what it is suppose
    Thanks

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    Ok as stated I fed them EC 1.0 and ph 5.6 I ran 3ltrs through them both and got about 25-30% run off which is fine because
    I got this little god send
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    It's a 15ltr capacity so 3ltrs x 4 is 12 minus what the plants uptake
    And keep watching lol
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    In under 30 secs
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    Well impressed by this time/back saver
    Thanks for the recommendation Ice bud. I really really appreciate it the suction is pretty powerful too
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    Oh and the plants
    I also defoilated and topped them again
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    Thanks for looking in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannabug View Post
    I've been impressed by the growth in a matter of days
    Today's feed consisted of 15ml Ritzo. 25ml Canna A+B each EC 1.2 I know it's a bit heavy but I'm kinda challenging what the plants like. The smaller of them actually took ok to 1.1EC so I've upped it by another notch to see how they go.
    Bear in mind I am no expert, this is just what seems to be working for me...

    I aim to keep the leaves a rich light-green colour, if they start going a light green or yellow they're hungry & want more feed (new plant growth is lighter in colour so you'll see this around the stems of the upper leaves).

    You'll shock them upping the nutes too high & 1.2's probably as high as you'd ever want to go (taking into account your background EC of 0.4). If the plants are overfed they won't necessarily get burned tips, you may find the leaves just turn dark which is attributed to an accumulation of nitrogen from feeding excess nutrients.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cannabug View Post
    If they seem ok I'll ride with that and take note of the growth acceleration then drop it before flowering by a notch or 2. I want to get them hungry and greedy. Please chip in if I'm going about this correctly I read afew on here tend to pile on or ease of on feed depending on stages of growth.
    Can't say I am familiar with this, on my last (first ) run I noticed towards the of flower they wanted less nutrients.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cannabug View Post
    Ph 6.1 so far I've had no problems with that strength of ph although I read I should have started around 5.5 when they were smaller then adjusted as per growth.
    It seems widely accepted that plants are started at a lower pH of 5.5-5.6 (weeks 1-2), 5.8 through veg & some go as high as 6.2 in flower.

    I use bottled water for the first week pH'd to 5.6, 5.8 in veg & 6.0 in flower. So in veg I am using Rhizotonic & A&B at pH 5.8 up until flower (when the first pistils show about 10-14 days after the flip), then I drop the Rhizo & switch to Green Planet Massive & A&B at a pH of 6.0.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cannabug View Post
    Then I'm thinking with run to waste the previous days feed would reset in the coco with today's
    No. When you water the coco you flush out out the previous days nutrients, as well as any potential salt build up (hence shooting for a minimum of 30% run off) & draw fresh air into the roots.

    Are you recirculating your nutrients? "The Internet" says this will lead to a salt build up in the coco that will cause a pH lockout (preventing the plants from being able to uptake nutrients).
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    thanks for that b1unt the leaves have looked dark green from going to 1.1 - 1.2 so i aim to knock it down to 1.0 while i swing the ph from 5.6 to what i think is their sweet spot. ive noticed more growth with the ph sitting high on the scale as to the common hydro of 5.8.
    I did start pretty high ph of 5.7/8 and reading and seeing what other growers do i kind of missed the boat in the early stages of ph swing to broaden the uptake
    Im hoping that doing the swing before flower will kinda substitute for missing the early feeds.
    Im making fresh nutes per 3/4 days depending on the auqa res volume.
    ive read some go beyond the 1.2 mark and hit them with 1.4 but i'll prob take your advice onboard and max out at 1.2 EC and if they are hungery they'll just have to wait it out until the next days feed lol
    Thanks for chipping in mate compared to my last grow in soil these look great. Your always learning with growing which isn't a bad thing mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannabug View Post
    Ok as stated I fed them EC 1.0 and ph 5.6 I ran 3ltrs through them both and got about 25-30% run off which is fine because
    I got this little god send
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    Well impressed by this time/back saver
    Thanks for the recommendation Ice bud. I really really appreciate it the suction is pretty powerful too

    Thanks for looking in

    You're welcome bud, and I'm glad it's helping you out

    Not sure about that gimp situation though lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannabug View Post
    thanks for that b1unt the leaves have looked dark green from going to 1.1 - 1.2 so i aim to knock it down to 1.0 while i swing the ph from 5.6 to what i think is their sweet spot. ive noticed more growth with the ph sitting high on the scale as to the common hydro of 5.8.
    I don’t think pH will have an effect on growth, it’s probably just the plant being more established. There’s a pH range where nutrients are up taken & if you deviate from that you get lock out & deficiencies.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cannabug View Post
    I did start pretty high ph of 5.7/8 and reading and seeing what other growers do i kind of missed the boat in the early stages of ph swing to broaden the uptake
    I used to swing mine but this time just did a solid 5.8 & 6.0. Both hit in the middle of the range so allows for the pH meter to drift slightly & still be in range (which it will do by 0.1 after a couple of weeks).


    Quote Originally Posted by Cannabug View Post
    Im hoping that doing the swing before flower will kinda substitute for missing the early feeds.
    Probably nothing in it, seems seedlings like a slightly lower pH. Probably not much point swinging it about, but as long as it’s in the range technically then it’s “correct.”

    I find shooting for a set number makes mixing easier. PH down to 6.0, come back 15 minutes later & see its drifted up to 6.3, pH back down to 6.0 & repeat a couple more times until it’s stable @ 6.0 so I know I can water the plants without the pH drifting in the coco.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cannabug View Post
    Im making fresh nutes per 3/4 days depending on the auqa res volume.
    Are you checking this every day? It’s likely the pH will drift over a few days & should have a pump or airstone in it to keep it mixed, oxygenated & the pH stable. If it does drift (it’ll probably rise) shoot for the lower end of the spectrum (say 5.7) so as it rises it’s still within range.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cannabug View Post
    ive read some go beyond the 1.2 mark and hit them with 1.4 but i'll prob take your advice onboard and max out at 1.2 EC and if they are hungery they'll just have to wait it out until the next days feed lol
    I ran my E.C up to 1.5 but that was using bottled water with a background EC of 0.1, so you can run a higher EC without all the shit from the tap water in it.

    I think it’s widely agreed upon that adding more nutes (while tempting as you think the plant will grow more) stresses them & you’ll struggle to get all the nutes out come flush time so will effect the quality of the smoke.

    If you up the EC too high in a hydro system you’ll see the EC of the reservoir shoot up as the plant says “fuck nutes” & just drinks water, where the EC should stay consistent if it’s at the correct level for what the plant requires s they’ll drink both in equal measures. But you don’t see that with coco, so you can easily keep over feeding them (admittedly you could test your run off, but you wont have issues as ling as you water with plenty of run off, keep your meters calibrated & don’t overfeed).

    I would’t fixate on a number, just look at the colour of the plans & feed them accordingly. If they’re underfed up the EC by 0.1 & asses again in a few days. If they look overfed back off & so forth.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cannabug View Post
    Thanks for chipping in mate compared to my last grow in soil these look great. Your always learning with growing which isn't a bad thing mind
    I think a lot of it comes down to experimenting to see what works best & with what strain. I am doing Gorilla Zkittles next & hopefully it ticks all the boxes so I plan on doing a few runs of it to really dial it in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceCalibur View Post
    You're welcome bud, and I'm glad it's helping you out

    Not sure about that gimp situation though lol
    Pmsl Ice
    T'was worth a try

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    Quote Originally Posted by B1unt View Post
    I don’t think pH will have an effect on growth, it’s probably just the plant being more established. There’s a pH range where nutrients are up taken & if you deviate from that you get lock out & deficiencies.




    I used to swing mine but this time just did a solid 5.8 & 6.0. Both hit in the middle of the range so allows for the pH meter to drift slightly & still be in range (which it will do by 0.1 after a couple of weeks).




    Probably nothing in it, seems seedlings like a slightly lower pH. Probably not much point swinging it about, but as long as it’s in the range technically then it’s “correct.”

    I find shooting for a set number makes mixing easier. PH down to 6.0, come back 15 minutes later & see its drifted up to 6.3, pH back down to 6.0 & repeat a couple more times until it’s stable @ 6.0 so I know I can water the plants without the pH drifting in the coco.




    Are you checking this every day? It’s likely the pH will drift over a few days & should have a pump or airstone in it to keep it mixed, oxygenated & the pH stable. If it does drift (it’ll probably rise) shoot for the lower end of the spectrum (say 5.7) so as it rises it’s still within range.




    I ran my E.C up to 1.5 but that was using bottled water with a background EC of 0.1, so you can run a higher EC without all the shit from the tap water in it.

    I think it’s widely agreed upon that adding more nutes (while tempting as you think the plant will grow more) stresses them & you’ll struggle to get all the nutes out come flush time so will effect the quality of the smoke.

    If you up the EC too high in a hydro system you’ll see the EC of the reservoir shoot up as the plant says “fuck nutes” & just drinks water, where the EC should stay consistent if it’s at the correct level for what the plant requires s they’ll drink both in equal measures. But you don’t see that with coco, so you can easily keep over feeding them (admittedly you could test your run off, but you wont have issues as ling as you water with plenty of run off, keep your meters calibrated & don’t overfeed).

    I would’t fixate on a number, just look at the colour of the plans & feed them accordingly. If they’re underfed up the EC by 0.1 & asses again in a few days. If they look overfed back off & so forth.




    I think a lot of it comes down to experimenting to see what works best & with what strain. I am doing Gorilla Zkittles next & hopefully it ticks all the boxes so I plan on doing a few runs of it to really dial it in.
    Good advice B1unt mate
    Yeah I fill res up and knock up the feed with the 3 canna nutes ritzo. A+B and bring EC up to required level then adjust ph with ph down I dont have ph up so if I over shoot I add tap water then a few mls of A+B if required. Your spot on with the drift in ph as I let it sit over night then feed the next day and I noticed ph does drift by .1/.2 I think because at the time I knock the feed up its straight from the tap so the water is cold approx around 9 degrees celsius and when its put in the corner of room the tents in the extractor fan is blowing hot air from tent to room and it heats the water in the res up by another 4 or so degrees. I check and adjust just before I feed the 4 plants which is normally adding another ½ml of ph down.
    Todays feed got 1.0ec and 5.8ph I noticed on the smallest plant I have a very minute browning at the very point of the tip on one of the fan leaves I'm just hoping the drop down lately will get that pulled back into line. I dont have an airstone in my res atm although I do have one but no spare plug in my bedroom and I dont really want to run an extension of an extension to cater for the pump. I might run a cable from the other bedroom when I'm flowering to keep water oxygenated.
    I so want to clone the back left plant as a mother because after all the defolation and topping every day I open the tent its springing out nice growth but where do I keep it? I'd love a cheapish tent for that but the Chinese are crafty. They show you a tent at a bargain price then when reading it their selling a fabric pot I might pop it in a small cupboard with a 125w cfl but that will take some altering as all my cupboards are being used and mrs canna wont be overly impressed lol
    Thanks for popping in and the advice B1unt mate

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